The 1.01 merchants

1.01 is ok if your  NEVER  wrong .. but its a big if .
EG your right  95 % of the time the other  5% will kill you .

if its such bad value why dont everyone start laying 1.o1? eeesee innit

Said fair enough mr.hunt. Never used to be.

Did you miss that post or you just looking for attention again letting every know that you're going to Kelso ?

sdc

MrHunt why dont you try it  with real money  and find out
its a walk in the park

1.01 backing 1.01 laying  every one would make more money  with there money in the Post Office over a year  it pay 9%  no resk

how is stating im goin to kelso "looking for attention"  was merely correcting your error.

Zipper...what is real money?

No risk .. zip a bit under the ........ cannot spell that .. call the nurse

9% interest ?  your avin a laff tho

Andyl had already corrected my error which. Don't see why you had to.


Anyway all the best for the rest of the day Steven.

its "stephen " YFDSC

MrHunt all money is real  just depends on how much you got
say to a trillionaire 100k is nowt
now a kid on the dole £20 is every thing  the real answer is some where in between

im still looking for this 9% interest

MrHunt yep zip is having a laugh  its about 5%
just testing  but 5% is a lot better than  backing or laying at 1.01

Mister Hunt Betfair charge 5% on winnings now the best and i mean the best would have a very hard time to show a profit over 24 months   when this 5% came in i have had only a handful of bets on here.. ok i enjoy the banter on this forum
but  most/ or all my bets  go elsewere .

so ive got a 3yr bond wiv barc and your telling po has 5% a yr

so ive got a 3yr bond wiv barc @ 3% and your telling po has 5% a yr

Years ago the betting tax was 9% on winnings  that killed the game it has never recovered its been down hill since then

shows you how times change up to about 4 years ago the 1,01 people could get matched after the last now ,,,,,,,,,,,,,they are forced to bet 1.01 before the last ,,,,,,,,even if matched for 10k ,dont pay the ex s ,,,,,,,,,,,,,mad game but someone got to do it

rommanesco ,,,,1000 ,,1200 pound matched  free money ,,,,,,,,maybe the 1,01 firms should be looking at this angle........

i was just saying to lads in shop...in 2006 ish every chaser was 1.03 coming to last..

Two 1.01's beat in the place market, Cheltenham 5.05

yep and hurdlers 1,02 ..........more and more money buyers have appeared ,,,,,,,,,its impossible for any of them to last the distance ,,,,,,,,,,that 1000.matched at cheltenham  ok must be someone with great software but free money

not great softwear just fastest finger..thers 2 £400+ 1000 layers at min..in they in 1st your fukkked.

but surely they both see the faller at same time ...software must play a part

TGIB There was a 1000 laid little while back at Exeter when jockey looked to have fallen off,he didn't

shows you how times change up to about 4 years ago the 1,01 people could get matched after the last now ,,,,,,,,,,,,,they are forced to bet 1.01 before the last ,,,,,,,,even if matched for 10k ,dont pay the ex s ,,,,,,,,,,,,,mad game but someone got to do it

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or it may just be that your pictures are getting slower (certainly the case with RUK)

it aint the pics..as i said cud bet 1.03 any chaser with 1 to jump..now 1.01 if lucky...fracsoft is fractionally faster softwear but still down to fastest clicker in general.

the mysterys of in running betting ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,pay the piolt 5k to stop it no stress

eh

my mistook PILOT

i'm guessing they only bet like that course mr hunt ?

MrHunt my nap in div 3 has just hosed up at 9/2 who needs 1.01

" on course "

no rcing..everyone does there own thing..theres actually not that many 1.01 big backers or 1000 layers on track...not everyone is wealthy..lots just there to get a living.

and zipper...your nap daint "hose up" every race....

MrHunt Dark lover hosed up
re naps this is my bet  say 10 points win well 10 times that to place 
today i have had  6 placed horses   no wins on em  only the place
it my fav bet place only  go to any of the big 3  place only  and they will say get lost
my second fav bet if laying hot shots  to lose .
it take year to learn and its only possible now we have Betfair

laying hot shots ,,,,,,,,,,,where is that running im chasing and will lay that as well

zipper

post your last 30days p&l

then i will judge

Mr hunt get your lazy arse to div 3 and you do the maths  place only

t r d racing, you are ff****g cluless

**** div3 and i concur wiv THEGHOSTOFFSTOW

no skill in backing horses in running, ive been out on the course 7 years, seen plenty come and go in my time, what went wrong with them if no skill??? youre either good at the game or ya aint!!!!!

no different to working in a trading shop...only diff is on course get better value...doesnt stop you laying a winner or backing a loser...

zipper

whers ya p&l...howair man convince me

THEGHOST There is zero skill ZERO in backing a horse about to pass the line.

The only ones that do it are the clueless ones who wouldn't know a form book if you hit them over the head with it.

Backing in running mid race is a different kettle of fish,but the 1.10 crew and those that lay fallers are clueless,but quick

i bet near the line and can assure you im far from clueless TRD...

im in a trading shop 90% of the time and well behind track players..still make a good living...

Cricket: £152.10 | Golf: £444.48 | Greyhound Racing: £188.95 | Horse Racing: £26,495.87 | Soccer: -£308.75  Total P&L:  £26,972.65

last 30 days ^  wots your last 30 days p&l?

good work mr hunt .....if you win say a grand in the first few races do you pack up or still play ..........i only ask as i would stay all day and night ,,,,was my downfall

im in shop all day till racing ends...folk hall else to do if a gam yem..

whers zipper & TRd's p&l .. show what being clued up people make?

Hunty Unlike you I have no desire or need  to give it the big look at me.

I've been doing this full time for 20 years and have never had to need to give it the big un. Been my only income and I do just fine.

How many times have you done your lot Hunty laying at 1000 or backing 1.01,at least twice that I can remember.

It's a mugs game and will eventually end in you doing your lot again,just like before.

This is mine today solely from IR at home

Horse Racing: £2,662.97  Total P&L:  £2,662.97

I have still never bet on a race in running from racecourse, trading shop, using SIS or raw feed. I have only ever used what was widely available for everybody from home.

TRD the ghostofstow is correct..your feckin clueless..you tark utter ****

ive never done my lot ever...ive laid plenty 1000 winners...backed plenty 1.01 losers...just for your information..when i lost £150,000 laying metal detector @ 1000 i had won £190,000 the previous 9 weeks since i had started goin to thornaby trading shop..so not really a big deal is it?

so haway lets see how much clued up individuals make? show me your p&l ?

Nice 1 Rollo take it you must play early or about 4 out. WD anyway.
Nice wages MrHunt

mr hunt i done a fred about bad beats ,,,,,,,,,,how did metal detector ruin you ,,,,,,,fallers let it win or your mistake

Thommo? called it a faller?

TGIB...if i told you the scenario what happened you wudnt bleeve me...

i had £249,903 in my acc and was laying for £150 @100 as the race started i said aloud in the trading shop "haway metal detector fall at the 1st so i'll g have 1/4 mill" a horse in similar colours fell and thommo called metal detector as the faller..i clicked..got matched and it wasnt metal detector and the rest is history...surreal circumstances...

typo...£150 @1000

thommo the grass  ffs ,,,,,,my internet was down once and i had 270k in account i phoned a mate who logged in to my account  i wanted 6k on a horse in running at evens at southwell  he hit the button after 2 furlongs  the stupid koont hit it for 60k  ,,,worse was to come it went 20/1  before hitting 1,1,,,,and getting fkd in a photo ,,,,,,,,,,i then chased the loss and done the lot within 2 weeks

tgib,
A poor workman blames his tools.

Well you must admit your mate sounds like a bit of a tool

funny how quick your brain thinks half a furlong out it looked no offers ,i thought i give him 10k for mistake ,,,,2 mins later was speechless ......

to say theres no skill involved is crazy, so ok theres a few lads who stand in last 50 yards, i know a couple very well, they win month in month out, year  in year out!!!!! no skill????? AND times n times they go past ones a head up, the other fights back and bang they hit the line together,,,,, but one of them hasnt got involved!!!!!! although the looser may have gone 1.03/1.04 or even 1.01!!! but hes missed it!!!! so theres no skill invoved?????? now im different i play further out, i get plenty at the game, i call  plenty loosers, some may go 1.01, im not on that short but plenty get beat, but my friend, if theres no skill why have plenty gone skint

In the last few years it is almost impossible to lay a 1.01 even if you lay the field in a race the night before,the queuing system is non existent.

Your mates are greatly assisted by Betfair suspending every race well after the line allowing them to hoover up. Betfair get their 60% of course.

I have tried to bet in running at the track and have found very hard to make a profit

yet betting in running at home using RUK and ATR I make small but acceptable profits,

the difference being that at the track I am a backer and at home a layer.

Try this wee eck,pick a race tonight,lay the field at 1.01 and keep,or do all the cards the same.

1.01 if any horse trades at 1.01 you will not get matched.

GT, You are right only the insiders get matched at 1.01 when one gets beat,  been telling my

mate for years that something not kosher is going on at the end of most races.

All that apart,hope you are well in health and wealth.So many cans of worms seem to be getting opened industry wide and a cloak of silence the order of the day.

gt only the priveleged ones get to top the 1.01 cue .............b/fairs buddys

GT for an old timer I am doing OK was at the Doctors this week for a review

he said he was amazed that I was only on one medication said he had many patients

of my age who were on 20 different medication, I said "Doctor it is trying to get

a few quid to keep that blooming Wolf from the door that keeps me going"

Thats the spirit wee eck,keep your pecker up,not many survive only taking viagra.

I heard a rumour that Charnier went to his doctor in Zurich complaining that every time he sneezed he had an orgasm.He asked the doctor to recommend something,the doctor recommended PEPPER.

wee eck unusual for you to be lurking this time of night

CLAPS TO ROLLO....YOU MUST BE VERY TALENTED .....but you would still have won more seeing faster feeds !!! FACT

Calling Mr Hunt, you are guy whose opinion i greatly respect, you are not a dreamer

or liar and your posts are honest and informative.  Mr Hunt there is a question that

puzzles me and as yet I cannot get a satisfactory answer, the question is this, do all

the guys who pay to sit in boxes at race meetings make it pay? or is it a case of

survival of the fittest? A supplementary question I would like answered is this, if these

guys are winners who are the losers?  members of the hoi poloi who use ATR and RUK?

andyl, I assume when you write faster feeds I assume you mean racetech?

NO wee eck, rollo has publicly stated he only uses freely available pics....ie bbc and ch4 analogue (now finished everywhere) or ruk, atr or live video

if you play a race on a live racetech feed you will get better prices than playing on ruk/sis/atr etc the vast majority of the time...it's a fact as the money in running available (liquidity) isn't great and it only takes a few players or 1 sometimes to take the value on that horse at that critical point in time....i would struggle to win 2600 playing at home (although it can be done) so i take my hat off to mr rollo tomasi as he must be some judge....imo there is no substitute for seeing close to live pics...anything more than 1-1.5s and it's near impossible (jumps eccepted) to win imo

unless he lays the field at long odds on for plenty and when thers carnage he cops

it's funny reading some of the opinions on these type of threads...the home players think the track players are clueless 1.01 morons who don;t understand form and the track players think anyone playing 3-4s behind is a moron

andyl, you seem to know about these things, are the guys who sit in the boxes at

races betting, unknowingly, mainly amongst themselves?

against anyone playing the race, if few home or shop players then yes otherwise no hth we

eck...

Over a prolonged period of time not many track players have fell by the wayside, a few have.
But not all make fortunes,lots are happy to get a good living,as ive stated many times being at the track only guarantees that you get better prices,ive been at track and still layed a 1000 winner and bet many 1.01 losers,ive said for a long time.."who loses all this money track players make"
With respect Rollo posting he won £2600 yest means nothing imo..my granny could pick 12 lays for £200 a pop and get them all correct..its the yearly figure that counts..let me get one thing straight,i dont care how good a race reader you are,people with faster pics will always see what your seeing before you and they get the better value,you have to play to the strength of your picture speed...

IE..if your at track play anytime..
If your using turf play untill the last 20yds
SiS the last 100yds
RUK last 100yds
ATR if your retarded or compulsive.

Radio or tennis scoreboard if your andyl.

Mr Hunt thank you very much I am very much more enlightened.

I am something of a retard but at least I close unmatched

bets at the 2 furlong marker on ATR.

wee eck did that rat trainer who was jocky to your firm ever pay his debts ,,,,,the 1 who has a sister in newmarket

I met him a while ago he said he had not forgotten he owed me, explained he was having

a rotten time of it at present but assured me that sooner or later he will square me up,

I left it at that.

how many track players are there, roughly? hundreds?

a wretch. of the highest order ,,,his horses improved a stone last 2 years ,,,,,,,,,his sister always nice i used to stay at her b and b  she hates him as well

duncan, I would guess not many more than 100.

TGIB, he is a very good trainer given the right circumstances could go to the very top, knows horses.

wee eck there no doubt he can train ,,,,,,,,,,since he moved yards a he has sh1t winners  catch you later mate im off to football

The 1.01 men did thier cash 1.45 Ascot and 2.05 kelso  well big time two fallers

You 1.01 Men forget that twaddle lump on 3.30 Excelebation  ok  you only get 90% profit  on your bet .. but its a lot better than 1.01 . 90%  aint bad

Mr Hunt,
You are dead right about how meaningless that figure was that I posted yesterday. I had just had a lucky Granny type day and it in no way reflects my yearly figure. In reality I am all washed up. andyl just took 1.10 on a cheekpiece wearing gasper congratulating me.

Ascot looking at the times of the first 4 races   the last 2 furlongs  well the going is  no more  than  soft
The Champ is a Cert  get your dinner money on kids   that you 1.01  kids  its lump on time ,  mice or men and all that jazz its   post  time .

The Champ .....................14 nowt  game over

You 1.01 merchants  bit of advice from the old man
If you dont know the winner  or the losers  BEFORE  any race .....
Stay  Out ..  zipper

The car has just pulled on to the drive
Table for 3 at our fav eating place
good night god bless

zipper ,,,,,,,got the game by the ballaks

duncan...prob 60-80

rollo ..you know what i meant.

Zipper = doze seek hunt.