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oor wullie
04 Oct 12 16:46
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I have just ordered computer tf flat and was sent the installation disk,looks like my initial attemps to install haven't worked so the woman sent me a email with the correct procedure, my new attemps are now saying that time form is already in my directory does anyone know the way to strip out the files before attempting an install again?
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Report the worm October 4, 2012 4:49 PM BST
Possible answer, Go to control panel and programs. If tf is in there then uninstall and then try again.
Report oor wullie October 4, 2012 4:51 PM BST
Thanks the worm , unfortunately they are not there, any other programme would be in there i think but this has me stumped
Report yeahyeahwhatever October 4, 2012 6:28 PM BST
it could be that it's already created a folder, and when it tries to create it again you're getting an error.  Somethings to try:

1) Rename the folder/directory that's causing the problem.  To rename right-click and select rename, changing the name so you put an X before it should be enough.

Let us know if that works.
Report razmos October 4, 2012 7:23 PM BST
evening wullie "he" will be seething if "he" finds out Laugh
i'm saying fekall - trust u are well - all is good up here - apart from the RAIN Plain
Report Grey Shot October 4, 2012 8:19 PM BST
It looks like the first attempt to install left an instance of SQL on your machine. You need to remove the whole shabam from your programs and re boot your PC and start from scratch.

All that said, you pay good meoney to Timeform so you should ask them to talk you through this process. Its a common fault.
Report oor wullie October 4, 2012 8:57 PM BST
Thanks for the replys guys,i think you may be on the mark grey shot only trouble is i run raceform on the same appliance and it would cause more hassle than its worth,i may try what you say yeah hopEfully it will work.How are yoU raz and who will be seething?
Report oor wullie October 4, 2012 9:01 PM BST
Grey shot what is sql? sorry if thats a daft question
Report Deltâ October 4, 2012 9:26 PM BST
SQL is a standardized query language for requesting information from a database
Report Deltâ October 4, 2012 9:26 PM BST
yes, I know, you are no wiser oor willie

Plain
Report oor wullie October 4, 2012 9:32 PM BST
DELTA as you are probably aware im a ex bricklayer, and i am 98 years old and we didn't do comp studies in the olden days.
Report oor wullie October 4, 2012 9:35 PM BST
btw how are you delta? do you here from jimnast much?
Report Deltâ October 4, 2012 9:36 PM BST
click on start
click on search
click on files and folders
type a little of the file name that you may know i.e time [timeform]

click on search
Report Deltâ October 4, 2012 9:37 PM BST
spoke to jim' on here today - thread of workrider - doncaster hotels ...
Report Deltâ October 4, 2012 9:38 PM BST
and yesterday re HQ at the w/e
Report oor wullie October 4, 2012 9:41 PM BST
ok pal gonna have a dram will try tomorrow
Report Deltâ October 4, 2012 9:43 PM BST
post in the morning, will probably be about and we will sort it

probably what grey shot sayed, just remove that, download again and jobs a good un
Report Deltâ October 4, 2012 9:48 PM BST
PS -


if you havent 'done' much on ur computer since the first try simply try system restore


start
all programs
accessories
systems tools
system restore


pick a time date/time prior to timeform first try and then click on restore

will put whole of computer back to state pre install and once done try again

NOTE - will lose any saved data since restore date - so not an option if you have done 'other stuff'


see you AM oor', enjoy ya dram!
Report Grey Shot October 5, 2012 8:13 AM BST
Hi I am not sure how Raceform works but killing SQL (MS Sequel Server ) may impact your Raceform . Normally if you fail to install Computer Timeform it leaves an "Instance" in your registry which is a pig when trying to re inatall.
You need to delete all programs with SQL or .NET in the name but I stress you need to check what impact it may have on Raceform.

Messdage me if you need any help as I dont normally use the forum and a friend asked me to post who uses this.
Report oor wullie October 5, 2012 8:34 AM BST
Once again thanks guys for all your imput i am going to phone tf when they open to see if they can help me rectify the problem(wont be holding my breath)will post later on this afternoon as i must get some work done on the cards.
Report Feck N. Eejit October 5, 2012 2:35 PM BST
Raceform uses foxpro so don't think it will be affected in any way by MS SQL.
Report oor wullie October 5, 2012 3:15 PM BST
rebooted my laptop tried to install again and one again it failed.tried it on another pc and failed again,phoned the help desk and that was as much use as sunglasses at 2 in the morning.use tf primarily for there timefigures seriously considering compiling my own.this was once a company that was reliable not any more.
Report Feck N. Eejit October 5, 2012 3:18 PM BST
Why they ever moved from the old ms access computer timeform nobody knows. The new version is just as crap but the back end is far more complex (weird and meaningless field & table names), is much harder to install and has far more things go wrong with it. It will be another case of some outside IT mob taking a company to the cleaners for making their product worse.
Report oor wullie October 5, 2012 3:39 PM BST
So time consuming compiling figures if i knew of a company who compiled accurate speed figures i would subscribe in a heartbeat.
Report yeahyeahwhatever October 5, 2012 3:53 PM BST
oor wullie - when you installed it on the 2nd machine - which errors did you get?

Also are you running windows XP, Vista etc?
Report oor wullie October 5, 2012 3:59 PM BST
windows 7 yeah ,seems to be stalling at the stage where its suppost to go to the clean up,from then on it fails to respond.Its now getting to the stage that i am about to give up.The girl at the desk tried to help but i think that the product itself is sub standard.
Report Feck N. Eejit October 5, 2012 4:14 PM BST
wullie, someone said on here a couple of months back they were told by tf it wasn't compatible with windows 7 and that tf had no intention of upgrading it.
Report flanders October 5, 2012 4:54 PM BST
that was me feck,i was wondering if was the problem but knowing naff all about computers didn't want to stick my nose in.
Report Feck N. Eejit October 5, 2012 4:59 PM BST
It's a shocking state of affairs flanders.
Report flanders October 5, 2012 5:04 PM BST
they basically want to get you on the race passes so they can dislay the bf prices to you.
Report flanders October 5, 2012 5:05 PM BST
display!
Report Aviboyd October 5, 2012 5:09 PM BST
Timeform have been a shambles since Pink Jim left.  RF have a great product but their speed ratings are an embarrassment sadly...
Report yeahyeahwhatever October 5, 2012 5:28 PM BST
re: windows 7 yeah ,seems to be stalling at the stage where its suppost to go to the clean up,f


when you say clean-up, do you mean it says something along the lines of "... we are checking for previous installations..."
Report Feck N. Eejit October 5, 2012 6:09 PM BST
wullie, when you contacted the help desk were they aware you were using windows 7. If so, and they didn't advise you of the incompatibility, it may be that they've attempted an upgrade since flanders spoke with them.
Report oor wullie October 5, 2012 6:51 PM BST
Windows 7 was never asked about feck,have cancelled my subscription and used the initial payment to have a look at race passes.got to say the first impressions are favourable,very dear mind and i am from north of the border so whether i continue to take the service is debatable.I have been taking timeform products since the 80s and it is quite sad to witness the company possibly in decline.
Report oor wullie October 5, 2012 6:53 PM BST
Yeah it is a bow to click when the installation part is complete uses the phrase clean up unfortunately i never got that far so i cant say what happens next
Report yeahyeahwhatever October 5, 2012 6:55 PM BST
are you free for the next hour or so?

if you are and you still want to try and ocmplete the installation -let me know and I'll try and talk you through it.
Report yeahyeahwhatever October 5, 2012 7:01 PM BST
I'm assuming you're not oorwullie - best of luck with it though
Report oor wullie October 5, 2012 7:05 PM BST
Thanks pal but i ran out of patience this afternoon,gonna see how race passes pan out as i said they are dear but if in the long run i get the money then i may persist with them. Hope you skin them tommorrow.
Report dave1357 October 5, 2012 7:13 PM BST
If only timeform was owned by a leading technology company and then such glitches wouldn't happen!
Report duncan idaho October 6, 2012 10:21 AM BST
surely if it's not compatible with Windows 7 it must say this somewhere on their site or in the pack you received
Report top2rated October 6, 2012 10:39 AM BST
C & P'd from http://www.timeform.com/show_article.asp?num=35


Computer Timeform should operate on any 32-bit PC using Windows XP/Vista/7.

A minimum 1 mb is recommended for Timeform-i, which is 32-bit Windows XP/Vista only. Neither is currently available for 64-bit PCs.
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