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By:
Feck N. Eejit
When: 04 Oct 12 18:16
It's fraud artie. Country set fox killers taking the p1ss out of the masses. munter is correct imo and I hope the ponces in the financial sector enjoy the spectacle because they'll be the next to go.
By:
kennythebetboy
When: 04 Oct 12 21:40
Professional Footballers and Gambling don't go together ...... just look at the exploits of Didi Hamann, Michael Owen, Paul Merson, Stan Bowles and many others ...... untold £millions lost, now add Michael Chopra et al ...... all for the benefit of "Baldy" & Co.

Dieter "Didi" Hamann now lists himself as a "Pro Gambler" and pundit for the RP, he now lives in style in Alderley Edge, the smart Pro Footballer enclave of Cheshire ...... take his tips and follow him "Over The Edge" (hopefully with Thommo) ...... Laugh

http://www.soccerbase.com/blog/pro-punter/didi-hamann/

It is the blind, leading the blind and unwashed .......... Ooooooover the Edge Uuuuuuuuugh !! ......Whoops Devil
By:
kennythebetboy
When: 04 Oct 12 22:28
In the style of Catherine Tates' "Nan" character from the TV series .....

Grandson: "Did you back the effer Nan ? "

Nan: "No son ........ I effing laid it ....Ha, ha, ha, cackle cackle!" ...... expletive !, expletive ! .....Laugh Devil
By:
megsy
When: 05 Oct 12 03:03
he hasnt retired, been riding in the bush in oz.

Heffernan has been riding in Australia for the last 12 months but he has been charged by the British Horseracing Authority for "communicating directly or indirectly to one or more betting exchange holders information relating to the prospects of horses in races, as well as intentionally failing to ensure that horses ridden by him were run on their merits.''

The race-fixed scandal has rocked British sport as soccer players Michael Chopra from Ipswich Town, ex-Doncaster Rovers player Mark Wilson and Nottingham Forest's James Coppinger among nine people charged with serious breaches of the rules of racing.

Heffernan was due to ride Wouldn't It Be Nice in the Breeders Plate at Royal Randwick tomorrow but was stood down by Racing NSW stewards late yesterday.

Racing NSW chief executive Peter V'landys said this morning the decision to replace Heffernan from all riding engagements after receiving advice from the BHA.

"Mr Heffernan was advised that he was stood down by Racing NSW pending him providing full disclosure of matters pertinent to his licensing in this jurisdiction,'' V'landys said.

The BHA issued a statement overnight whic explained the non-criminal charges follow an investigation into suspicious betting activity on races that took place between Nov. 1, 2010, and March 31, 2011, and focus on wagers on betting exchanges that horses would lose, the BHA said.

Chopra, Wilson and three others have been charged with offering bribes to Heffernan.

The police "will be informed, but whether they pursue it or not is completely a matter for them," BHA spokesman Robin Mounsey said in an interview.
By:
ima_mazed66
When: 05 Oct 12 05:41
I very much doubt it has rocked British sport and will barely get a mention with most media.
By:
audi1
When: 05 Oct 12 08:46
stupid witch hunt against innocent people makes me sick
By:
metro john
When: 05 Oct 12 09:07
They just showed two races under investigation,and too be honest i could see nothing wrong,the stewards need a good kick in the b o l o x! What a waist of time.
By:
levelstakes1
When: 05 Oct 12 09:09
The only way you can dramatically reduce the number of bent races is to stop all channels whereby someone can gain from a horse losing.

That means laying on an exchange or being a regular bookmaker.

If all there was in racing was a tote monopoly with punters having only the facility to bet on a horse to do something 'positive' in a race then racing would be much straighter.

A tote monopoly with a takeout similar to the commision rate on betfair (5% or less) would be better all round.

This would be good for funding the sport as is shown in other tote monopoly racing nations.

Also, pro punters could get big bets on without the knock back they get now from fixed odds layers because a huge tote would have massive liquidity if it took all bets on British racing.
By:
metro john
When: 05 Oct 12 09:11
Rule (A)36.1
Inside Information is information about the likely participation or likely performance of a horse in a race, which
36.1.1 is known by an Owner, Trainer, Rider, stable employee or any of their service providers as a result of acting as such, and
36.1.2 is not information in the public domain.
A Person must not communicate Inside Information directly or indirectly to any other Person for any material reward, gift, favour or benefit in kind.
Entry Point: Disqualify 3 years
Range: 18 months - 5 years 

What a stupid meaningless rule? owner goes to jockey and asks any chance,he replies no hope? (no crime there)
By:
wee eck
When: 05 Oct 12 10:27
Those who get the real money can rest comfortably, as they, as most of us know

unmentionable by name and untouchable by the mealy mouthed momsers who

are the arbitrators of horseracing's authority.
By:
silvergreaser
When: 05 Oct 12 11:57
metro I suppose you can have two types of inside information, the simple exchange between say a trainer and his owner or maybe a punter he's friendly with but not in any collusion.

In Heffernans case he was been rewarded, ok there was a good chance that the horse wouldn't win or even place on form anyway, but if it looked like the horse was in danger of making the places or even winning these punters knew they had the jockey onside to prevent that happening so in effect they coud lay away to their hearts content knowing their money was all but in the bank.
By:
Lightbulbs Fan Club
When: 05 Oct 12 12:24
levelstakes...your case for a tote monopoly would not be any good for any punter. What pro-punter would be having a few thousand on the favourite without knowing what price he was getting? (and also knowing his cash would be dramatically shortening the price he would get returned). With regard to prize money...you are right but its not going to happen!
By:
audi1
When: 05 Oct 12 12:38
honest jock houded out of te game by this rubbish makes me sick
By:
Sherbert
When: 05 Oct 12 12:41
levelstakes1 a typical thick comment, not like you can back the rest of the field to lay one. With exchanges we now STOP and SEE corruption
By:
bazzar
When: 05 Oct 12 12:46
This Chopra must be one of lifes regular mugs, gets a huge
payment and his greed leads him to gamble most of it away,
the mental hospital awaits.
By:
audi1
When: 05 Oct 12 12:55
Whingeing moaners on here alwas cying about corruption ...........
By:
levelstakes1
When: 05 Oct 12 13:45
i understand what you are saying lightbulbs but i am a pro punter for want of another name.

ive talked to pro punters in horserace betting in other countries with tote monopolies and they operate in a different way. they bet very late comparing their tissue to the totes odds. because they bet later they tend to take in more facors as well such as paddock inspection and how the horse behaves going down to post.

they know from experience how much the odds will move with there bets and whether they will likely or not still get value when the dividend is returned.

people in this country are obsessed with being able to take a price.

whats the point in trying to take a price and something you deem value and getting knocked back to a fraction of your stake?

a lot of effort to mark a bookies card for little reward.

and worst of all the time the bookie takes all of your bet is because he knows more than you and it isnt off!

that state of affairs is the main reason why punters are up against in this country.

when you are on, you dont want to be on!
By:
Lightbulbs Fan Club
When: 05 Oct 12 13:54
I don't deny the model we have here has its problems...specifically relying on punters losses to fund the entire sport is clearly not going to last much longer i.e the levy will be replaced with something else sooner rather than later. However, a tote monopoly, in fact any monopoly is never good for the customer and to remove price competition from the market would mean the game was killed stone dead imo...
By:
Lightbulbs Fan Club
When: 05 Oct 12 13:55
Why not have a tote operating with a 5pc margin on all of its pools...that way it is in direct competition with the more traditional layers. The customer benefits and there is more choice/more turnover etc
By:
Happy Valley
When: 05 Oct 12 14:29
lightbulbs probably because the tote is not efficient enough to cover all its costs off just a 5pc margin
By:
Happy Valley
When: 05 Oct 12 14:31
levelstakes when i was uk based and bet quite a bit and made it pay, i did so by working in with a bookie who knew i made a profit and whom "lost" my bets in the trade, ie followed them in but made it look as if they were just hedging

would that type of scenario be of any help to you, usually if you are good enough i think you can find an honourable bookmaker
By:
levelstakes1
When: 05 Oct 12 15:57
i know exactly what you are talking about Happy Valley. I used to say it to independent bookies all the time. 'if you dont think you can beat me, just take it and lay it off double and win for yourself too'!
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