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03 Oct 12
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Bill Esdaile @BillEsdaile
Camelot WILL run in Sunday's Arc and Frankie Dettori will ride.
Camelot WILL run in Sunday's Arc and Frankie Dettori will ride.
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Must be a big surprise to those who said the horse lost on merit at Donny.
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Didn't the horse lose on merit at Doncaster ?
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Cornelius Lysaght @CorneliusRacing
#Arc: #Camelot confirmed as runner with Frankie Dettori riding |
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danedream ??
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Whats up with young o'brian riding it? is it the weight or something else.
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its the weight lucky
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See his on another one , surely if he left his dinners for a couple of nights he could do the weight and try properly this time maybe keeping an eye on whats going on in front of him instead of thinking he was on pegasus.
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wont win
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Wonder how shake muhammed likes his one timed fav boy riding for the other boys in blue.
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wont win hes not bothered
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pacemaker for st nicholas abbey
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What a crafty move, if Camelot gets beat they will have the most legit exuse of all time.
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if?
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Flush,
I was going in quite heavy for Camelot as I think he will win but I am getting more timid after that news. |
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^ moondan, having the best big race jockey currently riding on board is a negative..??
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The usual forum tosh in abundance on this thread .
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best big race jockey - r u serious!
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If your a backer be glad frankies up , wouldnt bet it myself but you have an honest chance of going close now given the two big ones dropping out
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So he's officially spit from Godolphin then?
After the sh*t that went down last time (Scorpion St Leger) can't see how he'd be able to continue working for them. |
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joseph seriously need to go all rocky....cut that weight proper. eye of the tiger running around ballydoyle.
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Do normal Frankie / Godolphin rules apply here?
ie WIN ONLY BETS as he'll ease it up and wont try for a place if he cant win? |
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i think there's been a cooling off of hostility's between them and coolmore,they had runners in Dubai earlier this year and no doubt frankie did ask Shakey Mo beforehand.
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Great News t
Glad to hear that Frankie has got the leg up,anybody that thinks thats a negative is fookin clueless imho. |
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frankie probably in france that day to ride for godolphin in other races anyway
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agree acey great news
 ...Alleged was in beaten in St Leger but won 2 Arcs.. that is what I am clinging on to anyway The premier middle distance race in Europe |
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Superb booking... Frankie an expert around Longchamp.
Besy jock on the best horse..... charrrrge |
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How winnable does the Arc look now for Frankel connections.They must be kicking themselves.
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how many horse has frankie ridden for A P O'Brien in the last 5 years ?
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doubt frankel connections will be kicking themselves.
in fact they are probably relieved not to be going to the continent as that horse virus over there is quite dangerous. any horse contracting it will almost certainly have to be destroyed so best staying far away from that. I know it's only in germany at the moment but once they check where those german horses have been racing then there might be further problems. anyway there is nothing wrong with winning the champion stakes even if it is run on the wrong course. |
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Acey is spot on.
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Rides Longchamp better than anybody.
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No strong views here about Frankie either way. But I really don't fancy Camelot. The 3yo's are weak this year and the horse is only taking his chance because the field has cut up. I'm happy to be a layer.
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any one would think the yard is full of apprentices,what a kick in the teeth for heffernan and o donoghue.but picking dettori who is past his best over the other classic winning stable jockeys is crazy . even murtagh or smullen could have taken the ride strange decision
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DETTORI JOY AT CAMELOT CALL
03 Oct 2012 Frankie Dettori spoke of his "honour" at being chosen to partner Camelot in the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe at Longchamp on Sunday. The ride on the 2000 Guineas and dual Derby winner became available as trainer Aidan O'Brien's son, Joseph, is unable to get down to the weight of 8st 11lb. Dettori has not ridden for O'Brien since winning the 2005 St Leger at Doncaster on Scorpion. The Italian will be riding in his 25th consecutive Arc, which he has won three times on Lammtarra (1995), Sakhee (2001) and Marienbard (2002). "It's a real honour to be chosen to ride the Guineas and Derby winner in the Arc," Dettori told Racing UK. "A couple of high-profile horses haven't made the race so he's right up there at the head of the betting. I'm really excited. It's a really good record, 25 Arcs in a row, so I'm looking forward to it. "What has happened in the last few days is pretty unbelievable (with defections from the race) - Snow Fairy has an injury, Nathaniel is out. Joseph can't do the weight on Camelot and the ride became available. "It's an honour for me to be asked to ride the horse and I'm really looking forward to it. Let's hope the horse is in tip-top shape. It's been a long season but if the Camelot turns up we know he should have a really good chance." Camelot's participation in the Arc had been up in the air since his defeat in the St Leger at Doncaster last month, when he was prevented from claiming the Triple Crown by Encke. But after having worked at O'Brien's Ballydoyle stable on Wednesday morning, the decision was made to let the three-year-old colt take his chance. A tweet from Ballydoyle read: "We were pleased with the work of both St Nicholas Abbey and Camelot this morning in Ballydoyle and hope to run both in the Arc on Sunday. St Nicholas Abbey will be ridden by Joseph and Camelot will be ridden by Frankie Dettori." Joseph O'Brien partnered Camelot in his key final Arc prep and said: "I was very happy with him - he did what he had to do." There had been rumours Danedream could yet be supplemented back into the race on Thursday at a cost of 100,000 euro owing to some sort of mix-up at Cologne, but Patrick Barbe, racing manager to her part-owner, Teruya Yoshida, said: "It is only a rumour. There is a no-go zone a kilometre around the training base, I just can't see us being allowed to go." |
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Strange how the top yards want to use this "past it" when he is available.
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Frankie still one of the best jockeys about. Could have went for Buick as he doesn't have a ride in the race since Nathanial being a non runner. Camelot will go and win this now with a godolphin jockey just like they did with the derby last year. Camelot has got 7lb weight for age allowance from Orfevre and the pace makers could make all the differance this time and where as Joseph only has a few years of racing experience whereas Frankie has over 20 years.
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yes
very tactful 'joseph cant make the weight' |
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Exellent jockey booking for Camelot, but i just cant have him winning the Arc on what he has done on the track as a 3yo, the form is average at best.
Even tho the race has lost some of the Star names this year, i still think he has it all to do on the book. |