Queally on Timepiece: lazy and incompetent

no plan b.
Countinually rammed the square peg into the round hole.

I'm really trying not to be harsh here but ironically lazy and incompetent just about nicely sums up your reading of the situation.

What exactly was it you were wanting Queally to do? He was drawn in stall 1 which put him on the rail, he had to ride to his draw for the first part of the race which put him on the rail and once the rest of the field hit the mark where they could come off a straight line and not have to ride to their draw, they all came over onto Queally, funnily enough put him on the rail.

At no stage of the race did any gaps come to allow him to move off the rail and his only option was to chance going up the inner when briefly gaps appeared up there due to the leader edging off slightly but soon closing again via a combination of Queally's horse not having enough pace or time to take the gaps and the leader drifting back towards the rail again when coming under pressure.

The only way Queally could have got out from the position he was being held in would have been to barge his way out and then risk safety and a ban.

You`re wasting your breath 66 the armchair jockeys will never go away. It`s sad but there will always be people who do not want to see things as they are but how they wish them to be.

The trouble with you FF is that you will defend jockey's no matter what,so your opinion is worth as much as the pocket talkers.

do you not think when he saw the draw before he went to bed last night he said to himself "I'm not getting blocked in on the rail"...

Your not telling me in a 10 furlong race on a group one animal albeit in a steady run race that Tom Queally did not have the opportunity to get off the rails if he wanted to?
No he fell asleep lazily hoping for an opening on the rails which did not come.....no plan B.
If your theory was correct,amazed, we'd surely see a lot more of this happening than we do.......surely?
No excuses Queally cocked up and hit the panic button going for a gap that wasn't there.

x-box in the O'Brien household?, a guy who hangs out of a crucifix might have something to say about that ima?.

Actually that's exactly what I'm telling you throwthetellyoutawindow and the reasons why that was the case are because he was drawn in stall 1 on the rail, had to ride to his draw at the start of the race on the rail and then once they were allowed to come out of riding to their draw ten the whole field came over towards Queally....on the rail.

If you add to that the whole field were in contention and closely grouped at the 3f mark and the fact that the placed horses were 125/1, 20/1 and 66/1 and even the 4th was 25/1 then this suggests everything stayed in the race for longer than usual and because there was little falling away by the outsiders in the betting then the gaps never came for Queally to either go through or get his horse off of the rail.

Probably your key words in you above post were "albeit in a steady run race" as the RP has the time listed as slow by 2.66s despite also listing ground conditions as Firm and all supports the view that this enabled the whole field to still be in with a shout for much or the race and why the gaps never came to allow Queally to move off the rail........the fact the 125/1 winner, a Green Desert horse was up from its regular 7-8f trips this season to trying 10f for the first time also seems to support this view, seeing as it was able to quicken off a slow pace in a race that on breeding looked to be stretching its limits. If you also watch the replay at the 2f pole the winner didn't get the gap either and was one horse width to the outer of Timepiece but that was still enough of a difference to allow him to switch around but not Timepiece, as the winner was the one holding her in at the time.

The good thing with sites like ATR (and to a lesser extent YouTube) is that you can watch re-runs of races over and over again but that doesn't really occur to some people when they are already creating a thread to slate a jockey on here with the benefit of one viewing of a race. I totally agree though that in a regular 10f race that even if drawn in stall 1 that a horse should at least get the chance to move off the rail for a run but this wasn't a regular 10f race though and Queally didn't "fell asleep lazily hoping for an opening on the rails which did not come" it was his only option and all he could hope for once the race panned out as it did......he didn't have a Paln B because there wasn't one open to him.

ima queally had the whole race to get the horse more prominent and not in a position where he could be barged in.

the jockey has to be at fault for being on the best horse in the race and not winning

And you don't think being drawn in stall 1 on a left handed track, having to ride to your draw for the first part of the race, having the rest of the field on your outer and come in towards you knowing that a left hand turn is coming up or that it was a slowly run race with the whole field closely packed up until inside the final 3f played any part in matters pulio?

of course it played a part but queally should have constantly been looking to get out of that situation instead of hoping the gaps appear. if he rode the race just thinking that all the other horses would start going backwards and the gap would magically appear as you say then it's horrific riding imo. the jockey has to be proactive. i could see from some way out that he was going to run into trouble. being in that position in the first place is wrong. he could have ridden the horse more prominently. do you concede that? then when in the position he could have went for his run earlier when there was a gap, just making a preemptive move.

you can't absolve the jockey of all responsibility

You said he should have been more prominently but he tracked the leader all the way around so how much more prominent can you get other than lead?

It's also all well and good to say Queally should have been constantly looking to get out of the situation and presumably by that you mean when a gap came that allowed him to ease off the rail but that gap never came so what next? His draw, the rules of race riding and they way the course turns all dictated where he had to run and I'm sure if any gaps came he would have been more than willing to take them but the never did.

I totally agree, Tom Queally did not do that  much wrong. Drawn 1 rode the shortest, ground saving  path  (inside ) up with the pace . The only thing he can be legitimately accused of , is dangerous riding , as the rules clearly dictate that when over taking you need to be sure you have the speed and room, other wise a jock can be given a holiday. I don't rate Queally, however after reading some of the delusional accounts posted on here I thought perhaps I had been watching the wrong race.   

For the conspiracy and corruption brigade: Really?