US G1s tonight

:o

Wigmore Hall be talked up Stateside in the Million....they think he's a stud with Lasix...very unlucky in last years Million which was a far higher quality renewal than this one :o

Dont know...never really liked Wigmore but you never know...maybe he's a lasix only horsie.

jovialty for the bev d, treasure beach for the million

I think it's a disgrace that we can't see this race, and I'm not even sure about a commentary!
Why do we pay RUK?
Why aren't ATR showing it?

So, that's Sky Sports subscription, ESPN whenever it's needed and PPV for any decent boxing - I suspect we're getting a bit ripped off!

No betting on Betfair which considering they cover ever other stinking US race absolutely sucks!

Who's responsible for this insane state of affairs?
There'll be inevitable buck-passing but it's all utter balls!

If anyone finds a link online, it'd be much appreciated.

free to register to betamerica. you can watch the races there.

Thanks ELG...I'll do that soon

what time is the first race (so i can switch over)  ?

tia

st leger is the first graded race at 9.14pm, first of elgs previews secretariat is 9.48

it says in the irish star today in jamie spencers column that atr was showing this meeting,was it a last minute thing not to show it or what?

yeah not much of a preview...was a bit tired earlier...too hot.

gone for Zuider Zee eachway here...trusting Gosden / Buick. Favourite is mightly strong though.

Ummm Elise...whose the chick running through the horses at Arlington??

the brunette :))

Remember Betfair are a niche player worldwide for Horse-racing.

You cannot reasonably expect a second-rate service provider to push the boat out for just three top-class Group 1 races, when only 38% of the runners come from Europe.

ahhh

JESSICA PACHECO.

yeeeah she'd get it :)

oh my she's married to Davy Jones hahahaha

yo how comes the yanks have access to the workouts for the UK horses?? I don't even have that. where can I get that???

sorry elg i didn't know

i meant the lass

workouts i used to get off bris, not looked for the brits on there this time

are betfair not betting on it?

Noting ELG comments, would like to see details of any workouts re UK runners myself,

Where are the markets? I cant find them. lol.

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http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/editorial/article.cgi?id=30985

no markets on betfair

cheers elise for link...

who won the 9.14 please?

no markets on betfair ffs cant wait for the seller from southwell

fav hosed up can't believe i only had a small bet ffs

jakkleberry from Iowa Bigtime and ZuiderZeee pretty easy

quality The Big Hurt is back to present the prizes :)

Why are there no markets?

cheers thatl do 4 me.

pps
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http://www.brisnet.com/php/bw_pdf_viewer.php?track=AP&race=8&date=2012-08-18
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http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbHorsemenAreaDownloadAction.cfm?sn=SNPP-AP-20120818-508719
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http://www.bloodhorse.com/pdf/ArlingtonMillion2012PPs.pdf


hope they work ok

no markets on here for contractual reasons tom

Lame.

you could scream about it

made that look easy

:) Starcraft with a nice ride!!!!

wd elg! went with summer front but yours hosed up

That was brutal Questing....completely broke Grace Hall, turned away In Lingerie....ladies classic at her mercy if she can that going

Anyone got the result for the Beverley 11.02?....missed the race live

HALEY!!!!!!!!!!

you joking?

I'm A Dreamer...grinded past Up and Joviality in the straight and just held on from Marketing Mix

im a dreamer won

Romacaca went a good clip, Up pressing all the way and then kicked on, Joviality came out of the pack in the straight and I'm a Dreamer just kept grinding away and got past all of them.

anyone know what it returned?

$14.60 (7.30)

cheers ante

7/1

come on haley , backed a double this morning on her 2 mounts, im a dreamer 7/1 and wigmore hall 14/1, ew double. and singles.

come onnnnn

Treasure beach must go close with last years c&d win....

can we bet on here on the million????

Is it still a $2 stake at Arlington for dividends, please?

markets stink with the uk bookies on a lot of the euro runners, ive had a few quid on these US runners, vertiformer and wilcox inn, wilcox is a 2 time winner on the course.

but im praying for wigmore hall, please god!

off yet?

Asfare has blown the prelims...amazed if he wins now.

Will still win elg.........imo.gl

going to be a burn up

qtr mile sprint

put them to sleep and kick

little mike wins for usa

like that

Little Mike stole it wire to wire...Asfare out of the pack but had 5 lengths to make up in the final furlong.

Christ - good run Afsare - ul

let it get aweay, reminds me off lethal forse today in the hungerford...stinks.

was kinna hoping Kieron would have him closer to the lead....

im not sure whether that was one good ride off a slow pace or a dozen bad rides

jeez, typed liked a retard there.

let it get away, reminds me of lethal force today in the hungerford...stinks.

pacific classic in a couple weeks if Luca fancies some compensation...

finish order please?

Another "Unlucky" Cumani runner.......no thanks

WTF is O'Brien playing at with Treasure Beach?

This is an Irish Derby winner who was also just touched off in the last stride at Epsom as well, and a TRUE stayer, who's been fannying around over 10f and being held up!
He hasn't been given a chance to run to his potential and I think he's just not suited to these tight US tracks - I'm sick & tired of hearing about what a genius O'Brien is but I just CANNOT see ANY evidence!

He fcuks up on a regular basis and with a stable replete with talent, his scatter-gun approach can hardly fail!

I think he's travelled the wrong sort of horse to the States, and moreover, he's used inappropriate tactics...this horse still has a big race in him, if he hasn't been soured by his trainer's appalling choices for him.

At the very least...he should be ridden for stamina...not speed!

dead heat 3rd...Colombia and Rahystrada.

HE is a genius..........listen.........it must be true.

probably trying to make a case for gelding Treasure Beach and let Joseph ride him at Cheltenham.

IRMASUE sure to place and can win next at LOIS.........never mind the graded stuff.

right night all....Prix Morny tomorrow.

navel i bkd treasure beach tonite.i was taken by his run at leopardstown.i agree with you that it has to be a plot.jamie has ridden it twice and colm o d once.i cant see what they are at but they will win a race with the horse before the end of the year..intresting .costing me money tho..

Out wide.........then down the Lane.

wer did it finish kavvie didnt see the race?

Did you collect?

I posted a while ago that I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised to see Treasure Beach in the Irish Champion as a third/fourth string, and be given too much rope just like Cape Blanco a couple of years ago!

Maybe ELG's right and he figures he's got a Champion Hurdler on his hands, because I can't remember the last proper group one horse I saw campaigned in such an ugly manner!
The ONLY competition comes from the same sources and I'm regularly bewildered by that stable

Just imagine the success a better than average trainer would get from such riches for Magnier & Co. - O'Brien seems to be purposely sabotaging his string!
Henry Cecil would have easily doubled his group one tally...statistics DO LIE.

For those who think I might be going overboard...I had a lot to write after Homecoming Queen pissed up in the 1000 Guineas, and I was absolutely spot-on!
I think it was a thread started by Elis John for anyone that's interested.

Richters - Treasure Beach ran on to be in a bunch finish for about fifth place, but it was ridden like a speedster!
Never nearer in a 10f race, for a thorough stayer that NEEDS a stamina test.

I've only seen the race once and I wouldn't normally post views without being sure, but I'm so pissed off about this horse and how it's being ridden - if he could talk, he'd tell us!

Stats always lie,that is why the STATS mupps always pay for our luxuries.Mount Jews never win at Chelt..........beaten Colts that have slipping bits in Dantes etc never win the Derby.

NG have you ever felt like taking up the mantle of Tony Morris..........or the Randall **** the RP used.......to try and pretend THEY were the real deal?

1.01 like me you declined the gig?

Stats............

I hate to sound like an arrogant bastard but sometimes, even with the (alleged) top trainers, I've been CONVINCED they're WRONG!

O'Brien is someone with whom I have regular disagreements about his choices, but every now & again I just CANNOT believe why trainers as good a Cecil & Fabre make the decisions they do - I keep harping on about this but Henry running Twice Over at a mile absolutely bewildered me, when if anything that colt was well worth a try at 12f!

Fabre ran Golden Lilac in the Marois last week and after the disappointment of the Rothschild, he strangely persevered with the mile last week instead of the far more sensible Romanet option (over 10f) which is run tomorrow.

I readily concede that these two geezers are geniuses of the sport but their choices have absolutely baffled me
Furthermore...I've been RIGHT!

I won't bother starting with Aidan as he's got an extensive rap-sheet for the wrong choices, and seems to enjoy fcuking up his horses for fun!

The top trainers get it right a vast majority of the time and that's what makes it more surprising to me when I totally oppose their veiws...O'Brien however...is a different kettle of fish

LAY this TOPCATSTYLE at Evange.Odds on pup to be taken on.......place as well.gl

4th...........hope you collected pups.