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jonnyfc38
14 Aug 12 16:31
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our old woman has just brought me this dvd back from the charity shop for 50p.

lets hear your favourite races/racehorses and see if they are on it. Happy
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Report ged August 14, 2012 5:09 PM BST
1 Special Cargo/Lettoch/Diamond Edge/Plundering
2 Monksfield/Night Nurse
3 Grundy/Bustino
4 Viking Flagship/Deep Sensation/Marthas Son
5 Edredon Bleu/?
6 Barnbrook Again/?
7 Ard Patrick/Sceptre/Rock Sand (silent movie)


Crisp
Report Navel-Gazer August 14, 2012 5:11 PM BST
Moscow Flyer, Azertyuiop & Well Chief - Tingle Creek?
Report ged August 14, 2012 5:24 PM BST
There was one that is very unlikely to be on it - a battle between Frozen Alive (Stan Mellor) and Tudor Dance (Jeff King) one Saturday afternoon at one of Sandown/Ascot/Kempton. A fantastic race with the 2 horses head to head over the last 2 fences with 2 great jockeys chucking everything in. Blow me if they didn't repeat it a couple of Saturdays later with a 3rd horse in there as well (can't remember its name).
Report jonnyfc38 August 14, 2012 5:30 PM BST
the first 5 r on ged

moscow flyer aint on ShockedShocked
Report ged August 14, 2012 5:31 PM BST
Number 7 was a longshot. I think it was 1902.
Report jonnyfc38 August 14, 2012 5:33 PM BST
lol
Report Lee Ho Fooks August 14, 2012 5:35 PM BST
50p? You were robbedLaugh
Report jonnyfc38 August 14, 2012 5:36 PM BST
its ok i will sell it on ebay for 75p LaughLaugh
Report Navel-Gazer August 14, 2012 5:37 PM BST
One of my favourite ever low-grade affairs was a marathon chase at Sandown, a year to the day of the aforementioned classic Tingle Creek, and run in near darkness!

Willie John Daly & Brave Spirit fought out the most incredible finish and hopefully some kind soul can't give us all a few thrills and throw it on youtube - I still have it on VHS somewhere Happy
Report Stow_judge August 14, 2012 5:37 PM BST
I liked watching Mtoto and Pentire on the flat and Kilbrittain Castle and Remittance Man on the jumps.
Report ged August 14, 2012 5:39 PM BST
Bula winning a handicap hurdle at Sandown under about 12-2, passing the whole field from the 2nd last, coming about 6 wide and getting up on the line to preserve his unbeaten record.
Report jimnast August 14, 2012 5:39 PM BST
2005 champion hurdle
Report jonnyfc38 August 14, 2012 5:40 PM BST
reference point and mtoto is one of my favs
Report jonnyfc38 August 14, 2012 5:41 PM BST
i wasnt lucky enough to see bula
Report pauli August 14, 2012 5:45 PM BST
The Minstrel beating Hot Grove under a Lester power packed special in the 1977 Derby.
Report Lee Ho Fooks August 14, 2012 5:46 PM BST
Agree with 2, 3 and Crisp's National (but I stop watching after they have jumped the last)
Report jonnyfc38 August 14, 2012 5:46 PM BST
yeah that one is on pauli Happy
Report Lee Ho Fooks August 14, 2012 5:46 PM BST
Meant they were my favs
Report jonnyfc38 August 14, 2012 5:46 PM BST
red rum and crisp is on what a fantastic race Happy
Report jonnyfc38 August 14, 2012 5:47 PM BST
when the national was the proper national imo
Report guinness2dear August 14, 2012 5:54 PM BST
jonnyfc38     14 Aug 12 17:46 
red rum and crisp is on what a fantastic race Happy


Depends if your everlasting memory of it is a telly whizzing past your ear and flying through the window..
Report jonnyfc38 August 14, 2012 5:55 PM BST
ha ha whos telly was it mr G
Report guinness2dear August 14, 2012 5:56 PM BST
The family's.

My Da wasn't a happy chappy..
Report jonnyfc38 August 14, 2012 5:57 PM BST
lol crisp would have won with a jockey on him Happy
Report ged August 14, 2012 5:58 PM BST
Bula was a superstar. Won 16 of his first 17 races over hurdles (incl 2 Champion Hurdles) - the 1 defeat came on his seasonal debut on his 14th race when he failed by a neck to give away 3 stone. Would probably have won the Gold Cup as a 10yo if it hadn't been hock deep ground - he finished 3rd; started fav for the Gold Cup the next year (11yo) - ran bad. His last race was as a 12yo, and he started fav for the 2 mile Champion Chase. He fell and injured himself, and was put down 2 months later.
Report guinness2dear August 14, 2012 5:59 PM BST
Yes Killiney died that year as well. He still hasn't forgiven him.

It's fair to say Mr Pitman was never mentioned around the house much..
Report Lee Ho Fooks August 14, 2012 6:00 PM BST
Remember those times also Pendil
Report guinness2dear August 14, 2012 6:01 PM BST
A truly wonderful beast was Bula. Game as a pebble and top class to boot..
Report jonnyfc38 August 14, 2012 6:05 PM BST
a sad end for bula, ekbalco also Sad
Report jimnast August 14, 2012 6:12 PM BST
the bula hurdle been called the **** is also sad.
Report jimnast August 14, 2012 6:12 PM BST
spoilsports
Report pauli August 14, 2012 6:15 PM BST
The 1977 Champion Hurdle was a top class renewal.  Night Nurse retained his crown beating Monksfield and Dramatist with Sea Pigeon in 4th and Bird's Nest 5th.  For good measure Beacon Light was also in the field.  Champion Hurdles don't come much better than that.
Report guinness2dear August 14, 2012 6:21 PM BST
Here ye go jonny..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzHddelxH6E&feature=relmfu
Report jonnyfc38 August 14, 2012 6:23 PM BST
cheers G
Report jonnyfc38 August 14, 2012 6:24 PM BST
i was lucky enough to see sea pigeon on parade at newcastle on day when he was retired Happy
Report pauli August 14, 2012 6:27 PM BST
Thanks for that link guinness.  That was a bloody good renewal as well wasn't it?
Report MARILYNMANSON August 14, 2012 6:28 PM BST
For sheer excitement,

Dessie beating Pegwell Bay 1989 Sandown Gainsborough Chase.
Report guinness2dear August 14, 2012 6:29 PM BST
Not a bother chaps. The seventies was a vintage period..
Report guinness2dear August 14, 2012 6:30 PM BST
Except for Mr Pitman that is.. Grin
Report MARILYNMANSON August 14, 2012 6:31 PM BST
Dessie beating Panto Prince...........Sir Peter at his best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oPmxwgDwd4.
Report jonnyfc38 August 14, 2012 6:32 PM BST
i would imagine that that period would have helped to capture the publics imagination of NH, as it was very much second fiddle in those days Guiness
Report PeteTheBloke August 14, 2012 6:32 PM BST
Dancing Brave's Arc.
Report jonnyfc38 August 14, 2012 6:33 PM BST
the dessie races are classics the heart he showed to win his gold cup was immmense
Report PeteTheBloke August 14, 2012 6:33 PM BST
And I expect Dawn Run's GC is on there
Report guinness2dear August 14, 2012 6:34 PM BST
What might have been Sad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfNY7tNKh5g
Report Augustine August 14, 2012 6:34 PM BST
Silver Buck beating Night Nurse in the Embassy Premier Chase Final, March 1979. Epic race - they went at it hammer and tongs for most of the final circuit, both jumping superbly. And, best of all, I was there.
Report MARILYNMANSON August 14, 2012 6:34 PM BST
Could not wait for Dessie's races'...........always exciting.
Report guinness2dear August 14, 2012 6:36 PM BST
Well it certainly captured mine..

Some decades in sport are just full of legends. Horse Racing is no different..
Report MARILYNMANSON August 14, 2012 6:39 PM BST
For sad endings/exciting endings W Carson and the horse jumping his shadow in the US........cant remember the horse name.
Report pauli August 14, 2012 6:52 PM BST
With York on the horizon I am always reminded of another great race of the 70's.  My favourite horse of all time Sea Pigeon beating Donegal Prince by a short head in the the 1979 Ebor.  Sea Pigeon carried 10st that day under Jonjo which is still a record for the race.  The race wasn't on tv due to a strike.  I had to go to the local bookies to listen to the race.  Sea Pigeon started at 18-1 that day and I never had a penny on him as I didn't think he could pull it off under that welter burden.  How wrong I was and I was happy to be proved wrong.
Report MARILYNMANSON August 14, 2012 7:00 PM BST
Sea Pigeon, great NH & FLAT, did Lester John Francome win on him.......different days of course.



Not a classic but a race from Hawthorn US I will never forget.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO6vm7TIvrI&feature=related
Report jonnyfc38 August 14, 2012 7:03 PM BST
dayjur jumped the path MM
Report alun2005 August 14, 2012 7:03 PM BST
Bula.... my favourite horse of all time, and my boyhood NH hero horsey. Will never forget that Sandown race (Benson and Hedges Hurdle) when shouldering top weight coming from miles back to somehow nail Moyne Royale (?) on the line. ITV went to an advert break immediately after the race which meant an excruciating wait to learn whether Bula had maintained that unbeaten record.  Have some black and white film of it somewhere.
Report jonnyfc38 August 14, 2012 7:04 PM BST
yeah dawn runs gold cup was a classic sad end though due the the greed of the owners Sad
Report Brother Mouzone August 14, 2012 7:04 PM BST
Real Quiet going for The Triple Crown vs Victory Gallop in the Belmont

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLV7xZPwvM0
Report MARILYNMANSON August 14, 2012 7:06 PM BST
Dayjur........cheers.
Report alun2005 August 14, 2012 7:09 PM BST
I only ever got to see Bula 'live' in the flesh at the track on one occasion. And what a race to see !  The 1971 Welsh Champion Hurdle, in the era when it was a proper championship race. Bula's first race after winning the Champion Hurdle at Chelters. A pulsating finish saw Bula, Persian War and True Luck fighting out a heartstopping 3 way battle to the line, with Bula getting home by a nose.
Report Andrew in Sweden August 14, 2012 7:09 PM BST
jonnyfc38     14 Aug 12 17:40 
reference point and mtoto is one of my favs


Jonnyfc38, this is absolutely true. I was being given a BJ by my girlfriend, whilst listening to a radio commentary in the background. I had backed Reference Point ! Wink
Report pauli August 14, 2012 7:09 PM BST
Yes MM.  As a 2-y-o Sea Pigeon won at Ascot in 1972 ridden by Lester.  John Francome rode him at Cheltenham when he won the 1981 Champion Hurdle.
Report jonnyfc38 August 14, 2012 7:10 PM BST
u should be ashamed of yourself putting naughtiness before a group 1 LaughLaugh
Report guinness2dear August 14, 2012 7:13 PM BST
Alun...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FkTtsrDsoA&feature=related
Report alun2005 August 14, 2012 7:17 PM BST
That's the one Guinness !!

A few months later was crowned Champion Hurdler
Report MARILYNMANSON August 14, 2012 7:18 PM BST
Andrew in Sweden..........looks like she got your point.
Report johnizere August 14, 2012 7:21 PM BST
alun2005... I was there that day as well. (The 1971 Welsh Champion Hurdle)
Was old enough at the time to appreciate what I was witnessing.
Report Mr Eboue August 14, 2012 7:27 PM BST
Baracouda
Limestone Lad
A young iris' gift  - 2003(?) stayers hurdle

Denmans second hennassy
Report ged August 14, 2012 7:30 PM BST
The Le Moss/Ardross battles should be in the mix, because of the longevity and consistency of both horses. Le Moss did the stayers' triple in 2 successive years (Ascot Gold Cup/Goodwood Cup/Doncaster Cup). In the 2nd of those years, Ardross battled him to about half a length in all 3. With Le Moss out of the way the following year, Ardross went on to win 2 Ascot Gold Cups, a Goodwood Cup, and a Doncaster Cup - and then signed off by almost winning the Arc. What a pair!!
Report Navel-Gazer August 14, 2012 7:36 PM BST
AiS - BJ's seemed a rarity in 1987 and really seemed to 'take off' in the 90's for me...in receipt of course Devil

PS - just to enhance the 'image' - was she Swedish? Cool

PPS - Johnny's question is very pertinent...before a group one stormer? Shocked
Report pauli August 14, 2012 7:36 PM BST
Good call ged.  They take high rank on any thread about great horses and great races.
Report sixtwosix August 14, 2012 7:41 PM BST
A lot of the great races mentioned on this thread. I would have to include Badsworth Boy's astonishing first 2 mile Champion won by a distance with some of the fastest jumping you will ever see.

It's not everyones idea of a great race , but Red Marauder's National success is one of mine ,alongside the stellar field that took part in Minnehoma's 94 win.
Report sixtwosix August 14, 2012 7:44 PM BST
Bula was the reason I got hooked on racing as a kid.

I bet the DVD doesn't have footage of the day Bula and legendary stablemate Pendil both got beat in a 5 runner race at Newbury , by a 25-1 winner called Shock Result. Cool
Report warringtonwire August 14, 2012 7:47 PM BST
Cheltenham Foxhunters mid 80's - Honourable Man v The Drunken Duck - Brod Munro-Wilson punching TDD in the face to make it go faster.
Report Navel-Gazer August 14, 2012 7:49 PM BST
626 - this sounds unbelievable for someone like me that's a real enthusiast, but I remember when I was a kid and didn't even like racing...I saw that race only because the TV was on, and I always remembered the irony!

I didn't have a clue that Pendil & Bula were in the field, and for all I knew, it may well have been a seller! Shocked
I've never heard anyone ever mention the name Shock Result, and judging by what he was up against, I can safely assume he was a damned good horse Happy
Report SlippyBlue August 14, 2012 7:50 PM BST
Too many to mention but of the races I can say 'I was there', Salsabil winning the Prix Marcel Boussac, Shergar's Derby and Best Mate's third Gold Cup spring to mind. I could go on forever though..
Report Mr Eboue August 14, 2012 7:52 PM BST
I was there too Slippy when best mate won his 3rd.

I've never heard noise like it.
Report tomdeane August 14, 2012 7:53 PM BST
To whomever mentioned the Willie John Daly race, I remember that one too. Absolutely out on their feet but trying with everything they had.

My addition has not stood the test of time like many of these, but surely Kauto Star's win in last year's Betfair has to be on the list? Amazing scenes at Haydock. Love the shot of the old boy cheering him home and running up the home straight just after the last. I think everyone was roaring him home that day.
Report tomdeane August 14, 2012 7:54 PM BST
Me too Mr Eboue. Magic stuff; I think that one race was harder to watch than any other I've ever seen. I felt like I'd just run three and a quarter miles by the time it was over.
Report knot in wood August 14, 2012 7:56 PM BST
shows you what a sad racecourse chepstow as become.
i was there for that welsh champion(just a kid),family day out park the car inside the track.
massive crowds in members,tatts and silver ring,what do we have now.
could be another hereford.

also seen bula in the welsh champion chase,fell in a match against summerville (turnell).
Report Goretski August 14, 2012 7:57 PM BST
Ouija Board and Alexander Goldrun in the Nassau
Report stewarts rise August 14, 2012 7:58 PM BST
Roberto beating Rheingold in the Derby, and beating Brigadier Gerard in the B@H Gold Cup should surely be in it!
Report SlippyBlue August 14, 2012 7:58 PM BST
Mr Eboue, nor me. It was a rainy old day, we were in the stands and like you the roof was literally shaking with the noise, an absoultely unforgettable day and a wonderful memory to have in the locker. Happy
Report jonnyfc38 August 14, 2012 7:59 PM BST
i was at aintree the day kauto star won his first old roan and thinking this horse looks like he might be decent lol Happy it was a good day all 6 favs won. i also saw him win 2 betfairs and when monets garden beat at aintree, great horses it was sad when exoctic dancer died though Sad
Report Mr Eboue August 14, 2012 8:01 PM BST
Yep the weather was awful. Cold, damp and black clouds....

I remember hearing a rumour going round that Knight was thinking of pulling him out!

I backed Sir Rembrandt the day before at 40/1 ( he had run a gallant race in the Welsh national but then went completely off the boil ) with a fence to jump I couldnt help but cheer Matey on!
Report malky1 August 14, 2012 8:03 PM BST
would have to be grundy v bustino in the 75 king george neck and neck to the line.
Report starfish and coffee August 14, 2012 8:03 PM BST
Galileo fighting off Fantastic Light


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKFrU4YAT9Y&feature=related
Report FELTFAIR August 14, 2012 8:31 PM BST
Many, many Lester Piggott rides come to mind and in no particular order,Epsom Derby - Sir Ivor, Roberto, The Minstrel, The Leger - Comanche Run, Breeders Cup - Royal Academy, King George - Dahlia. I could go on and it would be remiss not to mention every time he rode Nijinsky win or lose.
Report koikeeper August 14, 2012 9:01 PM BST
1983 Cheltenham Gold Cup....Bregawn the winner, with Michael Dickenson horses filling the 1st 5 places
Report zilzal1 August 14, 2012 9:31 PM BST
The 1st time i went racing was when Bula beat Tingle Creek in a match at Sandown, indeed the second time i went was the same track when April Seventh held off Captain Christy to win the Whitbread, this was Crisp last race and for a few glorious moment when he took the lead down the far side i thought he was going to roll back the years but he hit the second last and faded.

I would love to see a replay of that race and Otter Ways victory
Report ZEALOT August 14, 2012 11:38 PM BST
vintage crop
Report kangaroo August 15, 2012 6:00 PM BST
Hi Ged,
Good to see you mention plundering in your greatest ever races in special cargo's whitbread i used to look after him at fred winter's brings back great memories.
Report ged August 15, 2012 6:24 PM BST
Kangaroo - was he yours when he ran that day? You must have been gutted at the time. Looked like winning it, and would have settled the trainer's championship for Fred if it had won. I think Michael Dickinson was left winning it instead. So many stories around that race - 2 young horses vs 2 old'uns. At least yours won it a couple of years later.
Report kangaroo August 15, 2012 6:29 PM BST
Yes i looked after him both times he ran in the whitbread was a bit gutted but got sweet revenge when he won it.We had good friendship and rivalry over the wall at Fulke Walwyn's.
Report pauli August 15, 2012 8:44 PM BST
I backed Plundering a good few times kangaroo.  Who could ever forget the 1984 Whitbread.  I remember a couple of weeks before the race Plundering had beaten Ashley House in a photo at Cheltenham with Special Cargo well beaten.  The three met again at Sandown with Special Cargo gaining his revenge.  Plundering ran a great race though.  It was great to see him win the race in 1986.  He was a good horse and there was no more deserving winner.  I have some great memories of him.
Report jonnyfc38 August 15, 2012 10:19 PM BST
i always remember a good horse of fulkes called ten plus being fatally injured in dessies gold cup Sad
Report hello :-) August 15, 2012 10:28 PM BST
Frankels guineas was very special , no one expected anything close to that and it was the day the world took notice off him ,

Fav race was light shifts oaks , the return of henry and i will never forget the emotion of the man or the occasion , very special sporting moment
Report lewis2304 August 15, 2012 10:34 PM BST
One of my earliest memories was of Raffingora (late 60's ?)coming from miles back under Piggott at Epsom over 5f at Epsom, I think carrying 10 stone.

Sea Pigeon winning the Ebor under 10 stone under an inspired ride from Jonjo, and Attivo the Chester Cup were also special  memories of mine in the 70's.

Most of the great jumps races have already been mentioned, but notice how they outnumber flat races easily in this debate.
Report jonnyfc38 August 15, 2012 10:38 PM BST
hello - i remember thinking queally what the hell are you doing you idiot while i was watching the guineas on the big screen at thirsk, the rest is history Happy
Report brigust1 August 15, 2012 10:49 PM BST
Persian War was/is my favourite. Such a star owned by an idiot. I backed him at 100/6 for the Schweppes but it was frosted off on the day, he was 5/4f. He won the Irish Sweeps, I think it was called, and I had my biggest bet to that date on him. 'Bar a fall it's Persian War'. Briliant hurdler and so tough.
Report jonnyfc38 August 15, 2012 11:31 PM BST
one mans queen mother was good one a real star and a hell of jumper i was gutted when he went at liverpool Sad
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