Was that your best sprinters

The formline says Mayson beats BC

I have to admit, even BC would had beaten those donkeys

Ortensia
Sepoy

black caviar lol

Finished strung out like a 3 m chase at Aintree.

Black Caviar as good as our best handicappers

gone back home with tail between her legs,never to be sighted again poor show imo

Very poor renewal.  I was watching the July Cup memories from 1979-85 on RUK last night.  I dread to think what any of those sprinters would have done to this field today.

Maybe nothing on this ground Pauli.

Heavy ground is not designed for sprinters. Only one horse relished it.

that's right ange gabe

only the winner appreciated the going

Keizer     14 Jul 12 15:23 
what a joke, Black Caviar always


Worst attempt at Trolling this year

Compare an old handicapper like Hawkeyethenoo's finishing position to the Aussie "superstars" Ortensia and Sepoy!

Compare your parents hopes for you and how you've turned out

who gives a dam who is the best sprinter all that matters is if you are making a profit or not and most are not stupid threads

Keizers Mum caught her beard in the barbie and it seems to have upset him a little

Cut old skippy some slack after all most would rather be an ex con than an Aussi , D'oh

credit to ortensia connections, it would have been all too easy to invent an injury and scurry back down under.

I think you can safely put a line through this years July Cup.
Connections of Mayson won't be complaining though!.

obviously australia would send her best sprinters to the top sprint in europe, so if that was your best . . . .

Perhaps we were expecting the best from an English "Summer", overcast but not drenched

No wonder you're "new arrivals" make up your sporting teams...they're used to being outdoors

we race camels without humps during our winter.

thoroughbreds are kept for Autumn, Spring and Summer

New arrivals?

"Was that your best sprinters".
Wtf?

back soon...feel free to add silly responses about disappointing performances

on a boggy paddock

suntanned immigrants....BRUTHA

Word

THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
Compare your parents hopes for you and how you've turned out.

LOL.....and you know the answer to neither of those questions......do you even know if my parents are alive or were able to see me grow up and how I've "turned out" anyway?

One thing I have not turned out to be is a clearly bitter, sad and pathetic fcuker (maybe that sounds familiar?) posting sh1t aimed personally at someone over the Internet that they don't know from Adam and wouldn't know if they passed them in the street.

Laugh, I nearly did!

I see, rather than the countries indigenous peoples spoon.

middle of summer and they race in that bottomless pit

Even more reason to suggest Aussie horses like Black Caviar are little more than a fair weather performers than eh?

Weren't Ortensia and Sepoy supposed to be two or your best?

like to know who said they were 2 of our best, Sepoy was the best 2 year old of his time but hasn't done much since then

Ortensia never won a mainstay group 1 back home, only turned a few heads when she won in Dubai

Aussies still seething that Black Caviar wasn't what it was supposed to be. No worries back to Aus soon to smash up some Aussie beach donkeys

yeah, i'm in a state of seethe after watching her win again, getting a bit sick of it tbh, wonder how Moody is feeling, must be getting sick of seeing his mare win, surely it gets boring

It's not hard gettin under your lily white skin, is it?

Took a while to reflect and respond

Touched a nerve

Poor Mazdabongovan.

Jibber away...

Even more reason to suggest Aussie horses like Black Caviar are little more than a fair weather performers than eh?

Keep diggin your own hole, dickhead.

By the size of that hole, sheesh, that's going to be one huge monument to your own stupidity



Don't let me stop you....please, continue digging.....

Oh, and don't laugh. You'll crack your face you snivelling, bleating Pom

She is nothing more than a good sprinter. Your horses are mediocre to say the least. When you get a good one you start getting excited when they keep on winning, but it aint the quantity of the wins its the quality. Then you have to equate the ratings of thehorses which your best beat..around the 120 mark and only just!!

Hi, Pete....please go on, go on...you sound so knowledgable...

to make such an allowance or correction in as will reduce to a common standard or obtain a correct result

hmmm, sounds difficult. You must be clever

Dickhead? Touched a nerve maybe?

LOL @ "took a while to reflect and respond".....just because you hang on my every word THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON and replied within 2 minutes, doesn't mean I will have done too to your drivel. Forgive the delay though but I had to pull my telly out and look to see if Ortensia and Sepoy had fallen out the back of it.

And what's this hole that the voices in your head are telling you that I'm supposed to be digging?

Pssst, the horsies are not really IN the telly.

MAYSON smashed by marek last time, marek well beaten by soul today, Black Cav beating Soul last time & by 10 lengths in Aus.

Formline looks good to me.

BC can win how she likes down under, the fact is when she came to britain she was gasping for air and fell over the line regardless of the jock and that is the image that all of us over here will ever remember of her and nothing will ever change our minds.....and that fact is something that really riles a lot of the aussies for absolute certain.

oh please Alfa, don't start with that rubbish

The Aussie horses weren't really in the race either.

Aussie horses are the greatest sprinters on earth.......WALOFS...

LOL @ Spoonhead you thick fcuk, you can't even tell when someone is supporting the Aussie horses and Alf Awoody is suggesting Black Caviar came out on top after all of today's form lines.....the only flaw there being that BC beat Society Rock 2L despite the starter costing SR the race and today Mayson beat SR 6L.

Your parents must be pig sick regarding how you have turned out.....I bet when you were a kid and threatened to run away, they looked at each other and said "on your marks, set....."

I'll give it one try at being sensible, Duffy.

"We" never sent a boxer over to fight an English opponent.

With the victor to achieve eternal bragging rights.


"We" sent a sprinting horse, the likes of which have not been seen before or at least for

generations. Her origins and the origins of the opposition is irrelevant. 

A display of her best would have been fitting for all (balanced/normal )racing

fans over there...and it would have not involved parochial bragging rights.

Capeesh?

you can't even tell when someone is supporting the Aussie horses and

You mean because it's "pro" I must agree with it?

I did read it and don't subscribe to any of it. Guesswork imo.

Now re-read your post....ummmmm silly little dweeb. Best you don't speak anymore.

Spare yourself from exposing further shortcomings

Your parents must be pig sick regarding how you have turned out.....I bet when you were a kid and threatened to run away, they looked at each other and said "on your marks, set....."

Hypocrite Something original..anything....pleeeeease

Aussie horses are the greatest sprinters on earth.......WALOFS

So TF, a ridiculous exaggeration/generalism...you state the obvious and find it funny?

You are just plain dim. Never mind.

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LOL @ Spoonhead you thick fcuk, you can't even tell when someone is supporting the Aussie horses and Alf Awoody is suggesting Black Caviar came out on top after all of today's form lines.....the only flaw there being that BC beat Society Rock 2L despite the starter costing SR the race and today Mayson beat SR 6L.

But this is exactly the point Sunshine.

You can make form go round & round.

Tis very amusing watching the Poms jump straight on here trying to justify themselves with some false formlines that can worj just as well the other way.

Insecurity much.

their best female human sprinter hurdler has just been beaten for the first time in about 50 races at CP...great timing with the Olympics just around the corner.

Their tennis players and golfers are never sighted in the latter stages of Majors these days and their cricket team has just been whitewashed in the ODIs - to be fair, we should only give them three Test Matches next year - they're just not competitive enough these days - what would you expect when you replace a proper bloke like Ricky Ponting with a pansy like Michael Clarke?

Where have all the great Aussie sportsmen gone?

oh great, a fisherman

This boat is full, move along now

Come on poms five the Covos a break - yet again Aussie sprinters prove their level as Soul (G2 winner in Aus) did win a (poor) group 3 at Newbury today. Their sprinters are always miles better than ours as they just keep on winning over here.

*give

It's not that obvious Spoon....in fact i would say opinion is divided on the subject.

You say it is the rest of world says its b0ll0x.......

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who gives a dam who is the best sprinter all that matters is if you are making a profit or not and most are not stupid thread


Here he goes again - the Bard of Parkhurst.

Interesting thread , some funny comments and then he weighs in to once again prove that the full frontal lobotomy is alive and well.

Audi - its a racing thread. Ask the nurse to turn over to the Lottery draw later.

Wiggo and Froom slaughtering Cadel Evans in TdF also.

Let's be honest Deacon Blues is the best sprinter in the world right now. By a country mile.

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Let's be honest Deacon Blues is the best sprinter in the world right now. By a country mile.


Unless he came across Frankel of course.

The Aussie class/form looks dubious when BC wins at 7f in Australia but starts to bottom out over 6f at Ascot. Moody was yabbering on that she would be a world class miler if trained to be......what she proved at Ascot was that she was a 5f one trick pony on the world stage....

She was not injured but she was just about phucked at 6f at Ascot.

I made a perfectly reasonable original point in this thread racing related only about how a couple of so called Aussie best sprinters in the world had one beaten out of sight at RA and then both beaten in the July Cup, including one out of the frame and just touching off by a nose a faithful old Scottish trained handicapper and the other only beating one home and 26L behind the winner at 6f and then Spoonhead comes back with a personal dig and then has the front to ask when I respond if he has touched a nerve. Seems like the only nerved touched was to do with the Aussie sprinters!

LOL @ best sprinters in the world.....might even be true if the world only existed of Australia and nothing else.

Spot on Soft Pawn - spot on

MUGS GET ANOTHER HOBBY, I'M SICK OF READING YOUR TRIPE

I thought you'd left the forum anyway ed? I haven't bothered to go back to your 'I've had enough of being insulted so am off' thread on the Aus forum but why not do just that if you are as sick of it as you make out? tata

Tell us more, Nostradamus

Nuuuuurse!!!!!

and as for you, MazdaBongovan

I made a perfectly reasonable original point in this thread racing related only about how a couple of so called Aussie best sprinters in the world

such a "balanced" view of your own opinions

Self absorbed fool

Should I offer an opinion and state it as a given?.... Like you....

Black caviar wouldn't have won it.

I'll leave that to you seers ( and rocket scientists, aparrently)

mindless guesswork for us mere mortals.

They all require oxygen btw....there...you've learned something today.

Spoonhead obviously clueless to the difference between an opinion and a fact.

It wasn't an opinion that the two Aussie superstar sprinters finished well beaten, it was a fact. Handicapper Hawkeyethenoo ridden by an ex-jump jockey in his first season on the flat here, won 7 from 32 and so not even 25% of his races, on a losing run of 5, rated 103 and still only beaten a fast diminishing nose by a 115 horse and the other beat one home and this from supposedly the country with the best sprinters in the world.

Nothing funnier than being called a fool by a total idiot with a lack of self awareness.

"Superstar" is what.... a fact? Convenient though isn't it

Give yourself an uppercut.... better yet, beat yourself solidly over the head with that

ridiculous stats book you beat off over.

Jibberer

Just watched a show on Sky about Black Caviar's trip to Ascot. Part of the show covered the

previous performances by M Andretti, Choisir, T Target, S S Banner, Scenic Blast.

All high quality sprinters here before heading over.

Find someone (without an agenda) to put any of them in the same bracket with BC

and I'll show you a Unicorn.

That is all.

educee

I have read with interest some of your posts and to me you seem totally incapable of a balance argument about your home grin horses , in fact you are so wrapped up in the Aussi is best craaap that you ignore people who are actually backing up your views.

Truth is and the fact is ( despite your denying such ) BC did NOT blow very average horses away here despite all the bluff and guff being spouted beforehand

She is a wonderful mare and a credit to Aussi racing BUT to suggest she is the second coming is frankly a little silly don't you agree ?

There have been sprinters here in the past such as Lochsong / Dayjur to name but 2 that imho would have eaten here alive but that is my opinion

You mistake YOUR opinion with it being FACT and acting like a silly father suggesting his rather tubby daughter is the fastest kid in school , calm down / stop ranting and then perhaps others here might listen with a degree of openness

GL

Ed

Black Caviar is a 5 furlong horse at somewhere like Ascot. She was burnt out over the 6f.

This explains her running to below expectations and not baloney excuses about muscle tissue tares etc. All horses suffer these when stretched to the limits.

We Brits have never hailed our sprinters as none of them ever dominate, barring a couple such as Dayjur.

The Australians seem to think that Soul franked the form at Newbury on saturday. Let me remind them he was top rated on official ratings on 115. He should theoretically have won the race. Oh yes he really franked the form of BC. Confirming her to be one and a quarter lengths better than a 120 horse perhaps.

An English form line through Star Witness and Ortensia suggests Black Caviar ran to form at Ascot. Confirming my thoughts that she struggled to stay the 6f at Ascot.

6 furlongs in a bog is not what she wants really and Mayson has an action to power through the bog. So no i dont think BC would have won.

Just to add. On good/firm ground i would not split Frankel and Black Caviar over 5 furlongs. She is a monster over 5 furlongs. As an English man i still feel this.

Black Caviar might have manager 22 Sellers/Claimers/Hcaps in the UK if she had been around the likes of.

Dayjur
Spindrifter
Amaranda
Chaplins Club
Glencroft

Even Ardross would have given her a race,that is how good she is in reality.hth

Big Rick

We should have seen her over 5 furlongs and not the 6. At 5 furlongs i am sure she is up with the best.

Cant have a horse that never broke a track record as up with the best AG,not even in two cent races in her own back yard.The clock is a fair measure for sprinters even if other variables have to be considered?

She was never really tested in Australia though but her sectional times were very impressive. She only needed to do what she had to. The fact her sectional times were so good tells me she would have dominated over here at 5 furlongs for the last 2 years.

There is plenty of literature on her sectionals. I have just been checking them out again. Plenty of mathematical brains have been equating the speed of Black Caviar and even on dead ground she was still recording impressive sectionals. I dont think that there is any doubting her speed over 5 furlongs..but thats her limit in world class G1 racing.

Zenyatta mark 2.

Runs up a massive sequence at prohibitive prices in favourable conditions against a moderate peer group.

Certainly nowhere near as good as Dayjur/Lochsong  and probably on a par with Deacon Blues.

I leave the room and a Mensa meeting ensues

All so seemingly knowledgeable about a subject, opposition, times, tracks....

10500 miles away

THE BIG QUESTION IS.......

which one of you is Steven Hawking

Can't be TomThumb, because........

Those times mean little when run on dead flat tracks on good or fast going.

Fast tracks have been basically extinguished from the landscape of professional Australia

racecourses for almost a decade

Shows how easy it is to fool people.

By watching a replay and reminding me of those past winners I'm fooled?

Blinded by the unbeaten record. 

When it lasts for FOUR seasons it's a tad hard to ignore...sorry

Not the same as running here is it?  .....Now that's just GOLD

Not Hawking .......perhaps Einstein???


Bigprick?

Cant have a horse that never broke a track record as up with the best AG,not even in two cent races in her own back yard.The clock is a fair measure for sprinters even if other variables have to be considered?



Definately not Steven

PeteGabriel

You made some sense but....She is a monster over 5 furlongs.

As an English man i still feel this.

Freakin me out a bit there....so nope, not Steve


so that leaves

HighPriest.....

Runs up a massive sequence at prohibitive prices in favourable conditions against a moderate peer group

hmmmmmm....


Well....it must be you


Love your work, Steven!

Brilliantly argued.

Well done.

interesting read from you one eyed poms

lets look at it in what matters most to english, "the stud "

ask your selves one question. "why are 2 of the 4 highest price (fee) sprinter stallions fully booked in england and breeders cant get enough of these 2 and are australian sires ", naturally the other 2 highest price (fee) reside in australia

bag australian horses as much as you like, pound for pound on equal terms they are 2nd to none and your racing industry know this as fact, not 2 bit mug punters on a forum with an opinion

No such animal as an Australian thoroughbred megsy,how many times do you need to be told?

Megsy we know that breeders easily get caught up in all the hype, but hype or not, it is what the offspring achieve that will ultimately decide whether breeders stick it out for the long run. (long run - no pun intended)

Choisir looks like a stallion success story already but his fees really are chicken feed if you look at our classic stallions..and that my friend reflects the gulf in class when you compare BC to Frankel for example.

What is the stud fee for Galileo?? ..you numpty

never fought of chosir, add another, but only average in oz.

poor Equiano cant even get $5,000 stud fee in australia after winning 2 kings stands, now that tells you a lot

Angel...ummm, whats galileo got to do with sprinter sires? the subject is all about sprinters

Admit it megsy,it is BCs colours that turn you on.nap

Exactly i am pointing out to you that sprinters are two a penny. BC is a fast sprinter. Just another one down the line. What has she ever proved apart from that.

Before Royal Ascot you Australian thick heads were even comparing her class with Frankel. She is a sprinter who barely stayed 6f. Sprinting is like 20/20 cricket. Its a novelty event.

Angel...are they really?, fastnet rock service fee $220,000 and listed as private fee in ireland keep an eye on his daughter atlantic jewel.

but also our poor pathetic sprinter stallions cant be much chop with the likes of excelebration being by exceed and excel

Big_PRICK actually it was your name that got me, instantly i thought, "ahh small **** syndrome"

anyway...enjoy your sunshine, im out of here

You were having a pis$ at the time obviously megsy.