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Anaglogs Daughter
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apart that she's a moderate 6 furlong sprinter?
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Report CASHLESS-LOOKING GOOD July 9, 2012 3:08 PM BST
CAMELOT ....WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED?
Report elise July 9, 2012 3:09 PM BST
we've learned that certain aussie forumites will snap your bait off and take 200yds of line with it
Report Anaglogs Daughter July 9, 2012 3:11 PM BST
Cool
Report Anaglogs Daughter July 9, 2012 3:15 PM BST
And to think the Aussies mention her in the same sentences as the great New Zealand horse Phar Lap. What a insult to the memory of Phar Lap
Report Anaglogs Daughter July 9, 2012 3:17 PM BST
and the Kiwis
Report SOULDANCER July 9, 2012 3:19 PM BST
She was so good she won the race twice.
Report general custer July 9, 2012 3:21 PM BST
so is Shane Watson and Brett Lee who cares
Report Hayden July 9, 2012 3:22 PM BST
We've learned that the Camelot/BC/Dancing Brave/Frankel/Brigadier/Tom**** & Harry debates are the most tediously boring threads that have well passed the sell by date , if I never hear any of the above names again it'll be too soon.

If discussing mythical horse races in which the outcome can never be proved is the main topic of conversation on here then the banded figure of 98% losing customers looks just about spot on.

For the record I hate all these potential 1/10 shots clashing in the same race as it reduces the opportunity of a nice place over broke for real punters to take advantage.

Time for some to get to grips with real horse racing and leave the fantasy racing to Portman Park & the Fairies.


Good luck today everyone   Happy
Report dod July 9, 2012 4:02 PM BST
That she can go half way across the world run well below form and still win.
Report Arklearkle July 9, 2012 4:09 PM BST
She was "world famous in Aussieland". That about sums her up. First SYT and now her.
Report Anaglogs Daughter July 9, 2012 4:10 PM BST
I think Dandy Boy in the race afterwards just told you the calibre of horses she was beating...The 2nd and 3rd in her race might have finished 8th and 9th in the Wokingham
Report bobdiamond July 9, 2012 4:10 PM BST
that moody was able to come over and end up saying 'job done!'
THAT is what racing is all about, the result and those 'bread-stealers' have put it over us.
pity they couldn't have put 'croc' on the plane though.
well done you aussies.
Report Anaglogs Daughter July 9, 2012 4:11 PM BST
I hope they come to the Olympics with a less arrogant attitude then Moody did.
Report Arklearkle July 9, 2012 4:15 PM BST
Perhaps they will bring her to London has a show-jumper.
Report Arklearkle July 9, 2012 4:15 PM BST
* as a
Report Anaglogs Daughter July 9, 2012 4:18 PM BST
She'll look nice in her Compression suit in Dressage.
Report bobdiamond July 9, 2012 4:21 PM BST
Moody is a typical aussie, confident and you can be assured 'they' look after us, as I can testify. one could not have been welcomed and cared for better all those years ago when I took a  horse 'down under' and opened a few eyes,MS winning twice and second in a group one to turf ruler in the oakleigh plate.
the press room was a wonderful  place, full of genuine, racing-mad writers. real people.
Report TELL DEL July 9, 2012 4:25 PM BST
they had very little to gain in the first place by bringing her over here.....and maybe now they may wish they hadn't. But it was a very sporting move and she did still win when unable to show her best. So well done all connections.
Report Anaglogs Daughter July 9, 2012 4:25 PM BST
Aussies are wonderful. . .What about their press Cool
Report bf_fananatic July 9, 2012 4:29 PM BST
That "black caviar" is the only caviar in the world that is such a small price.Cool
Report bobdiamond July 9, 2012 4:29 PM BST
three great 'press' names, keith robbins, jack elliott and bill collins, just about the best and most accurate race-caller I've ever heard.
real men who weren't frightened to have a proper bet, believe me and you can.
Report Eont July 9, 2012 9:39 PM BST
Moody has a better vet in Australia then Henderson.

See his commnets from other years about using substance to aid training horses. Can be googled very easily.
Report kingG111111 July 9, 2012 9:46 PM BST
we have learnt ............ SHES A DONKEY!!!
Report AaJay July 9, 2012 10:18 PM BST
She travelled and she won----Dancing Brave--Selkirk--John Henry--Oscar Schindler---travelled  intercontinental and finished almost tailed off--------hardly donkeys
Report AaJay July 9, 2012 10:40 PM BST
Dont worry about the Olympics Australia will win more medals than us they always do---Supine racing press natural habitat UK----with due respect Dandy Boy would have been out with the washing in the Diamond Jubilee
Report bf_fananatic July 9, 2012 10:53 PM BST
She had traveled half way round the globe, had a jockey that was over confident, didnt look in the wing mirrors and thought the race was over 1 second before it was looking at the big screen and Black caviar had sustained an injury and she still won, now I have learned that you simply dont see that very often if ever again and she is certainly a wonder horse. Happy
Report GT-MOLE July 9, 2012 10:55 PM BST
Bf............have you been on the bottle?LaughWink
Report bf_fananatic July 9, 2012 10:55 PM BST
no , just giving the lady some credit GrinLoveWink
Report GT-MOLE July 9, 2012 10:59 PM BST
I doubt Ascot will be so keen to finance any other so called flying machines from Auss in future.Plain
Report AaJay July 9, 2012 11:14 PM BST
Trust me Ascot would pay double---I was there it was a raceday like no other made so by some great Australian racegoers----and a great patriotic punt--------my worries are next year will seem "rather dull"
Report the bairn July 9, 2012 11:44 PM BST
I think she won a group 1, job done. cheers.
Report Anaglogs Daughter July 10, 2012 1:49 AM BST
Group one just in name and prize money ...Average race with average horses ran slower then Workingham handicap ran later in the day.
Report DoesntMatter July 10, 2012 7:32 AM BST
We learned that P Moody has no manners
Report taj rossi July 10, 2012 11:39 AM BST
She beat the other aussie horse SOUL by a length, i think that proves she ran probably ten lengths behind her best. Cheers to the aussies for bringing her over, gutsy move and she won going half pace!!
Report Outpost July 10, 2012 11:42 AM BST
we also learned that if your horse is just above average then ship it over to australia where it will become a superstar.
Report Roger The Butler July 10, 2012 11:53 AM BST
That 106-rated Dandy Boy could have turned her over with half a stone in hand had he been entered in the Golden Jubilee rather than the Wokingham.

That if Society Rock went to Australia he could sit down in the stalls every week, forfeit 4 lengths, and still beat everything bar Black Caviar.
Report Aladdin Sane July 10, 2012 12:01 PM BST
We learnt that it's extremely difficult to maintain the same level of performance when you've travelled halfway around the globe, and to race at a completely different track and under completely different conditions (Dancing Brave - Santa Anita springs to mind).  A tremendous sporting gesture by all connections as they had so little to gain and so much to lose..
Report millhouse July 10, 2012 12:33 PM BST
That it's very hard, for a filly in particular, to be dragged from the Australian winter to the British summer and still maintain her form - it's a miracle she won, imho...
Report Anaglogs Daughter July 10, 2012 2:56 PM BST
Wokingham Stakes winner Dandy Boy to step up to Group One class at Newmarket

By Sportsmail Reporter

Dandy Boy will try to bridge the gap between handicap company and Group One class after being supplemented for the Darley July Cup at Newmarket on Saturday.

But Aidan O’Brien’s Excelebration, who had been touted as a possible for the race, has not been declared.

Dandy Boy, trained by David Marnane, was last seen winning the Wokingham Stakes at Royal Ascot.

He has been added to the July Cup, along with Richard Hannon’s Strong Suit, at a cost of £30,000.

Marnane told At The Races: ‘He pleased us going into Ascot and has pleased us as much, if not more, since coming out of Ascot. We sat down and had a good chat, he won well at Ascot and we decided to take our chance.
‘He’s been a phenomenal horse for us and to win a third big handicap like that in the manner he did shows what a good horse he is on his day. He’s a fragile horse and when they are right and well you have to take your chance.
‘The ground was just good at Ascot, it was touch and go whether he would run because of softer ground but he’s a little bit older now and he is fragile so maybe he enjoys a bit ease in the ground now. I think he moved better at Ascot on the slightly easier surface.’

Miler Excelebration. who has been thumped by Frankel in two runs this season, was missing from the 21 entries but O’Brien has declared his Irish 2,000 Guineas winner Power, as well as After and Reply.

Ante-post favourite Bated Breath, second in the King’s Stand behind Little Bridge, stands his ground for Roger Charlton, with James Fanshawe’s Society Rock being left in after his unlucky fifth to Black Caviar in the Diamond Jubilee Stakes at the Royal meeting.


Hoof It, part-owned by golfer Lee Westwood, and the Paul Messara-trained Australian raider Ortensia are other notables with in-form jockey William Buick set for the ride on the latter.

Ortensia was a disappointing ninth in the King’s Stand Stakes but Messara  blamed that effort on getting upset before the race. He is expecting a much better performance.

He said: ‘Prior to the King’s Stand, she didn’t seem to handle the environment. She got upset in the pre-parade ring and broke out into quite a big sweat. By the time of the race she was very revved up and agitated and had run her race before she had even got there.

‘She ran an average race and pulled up with a sore back but everything’s settled down now.


Darley July Cup, William Hill bet: 3 Bated Breath, 7  Society Rock, 8 Strong Suit, 10 Hoof It, Ortensia, Power, 12 Soul, 14 Sepoy, 16 Libranno, Sirius Prospect, 20 Dandy Boy, Fire Lily, Krypton Factor, Mayson, 25 Reply, 33 After, Hitchens, The Cheka, 50 Elnawin, Hawkeyethenoo, Genki.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/racing/article-2171085/Wokingham-Stakes-win...
Report the bairn July 10, 2012 4:05 PM BST
Starspangledbanner won a couple of group 1's in England, at least 10 lengths slower than Black Caviar, and Alverta beaten 1/2 length in group 1 in England, 20 lengths slower than Black Caviar, what have we learned, English racing is overrated pish. cheers.
Report GOD-THE-SNAIL July 10, 2012 5:23 PM BST
We learned that she was a good horse,not a great one.Ryan Moore said she looked a mess,Peter Moody said she was A1.One of them was wrong.
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON July 10, 2012 7:00 PM BST
What have I learned?.....hmmmm that's tricky

OVER FOUR SEASONS....


Scratching 13 May 2012 MORPHETTVILLE - R7 The Goodwood $500,000 - 1200m 

Result

  1.3L  1st of 9 12 May 2012 MORPHETTVILLE  R7 THE GOODWOOD (G1) 3yo+ OPEN  1200m  G(3) 602 - 0:34.06 / 1:10.32 
14 days LUKE NOLEN (8) 57/57 $500,000  $320,000     2---1 00-01-02  1-20

2nd - 1.3L WE'RE GONNA ROCK - MICHAEL RODD 56, 3rd - 4.3L STIRLING GROVE - PAUL GATT 54.5, 4th - 6.3L STANZOUT - DWAYNE DUNN 54.5

Scratching 29 Apr 2012 MORPHETTVILLE - R7 Sportingbet Robert Sangster $400,000 - 1200m 

Result

  4.5L  1st of 10 28 Apr 2012 MORPHETTVILLE  R7 SPORTINGBET ROBERT SANGSTER (G1) FM OPEN  1200m  D(4) 0:35.37 / 1:10.65 
  LUKE NOLEN (3) 56.5/56.5 $400,400  $254,600     1---3 02-04-10  1-20

2nd - 4.5L SISTINE ANGEL - MICHELLE PAYNE 56.5, 3rd - 4.6L POWER PRINCESS - PAUL GATT 56.5, 4th - 4.9L LONE ROCK - MARK ZAHRA 56.5

10 weeks 
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Result

  1.8L  1st of 9 18 Feb 2012 FLEMINGTON  R6 COOLMORE LIGHTNING STAKES (G1) OPEN  1000m  G(3) 31.82 / 0:55.53 
7 days LUKE NOLEN (5) 56.5/56.5 $752,500  $452,500     2--2-1 01-02-09  1-10

2nd - 1.8L HAY LIST - GLYN SCHOFIELD 58.5, 3rd - 3.8L BUFFERING - MICHAEL RODD 58.5, 4th - 3.9L FOXWEDGE - NASH RAWILLER 55.5

Result

  3.5L  1st of 9 11 Feb 2012 CAULFIELD  R6 SPORTINGBET C.F. ORR STAKES (G1) OPEN  1400m  D(4) 33.39 / 1:25.14 
15 days LUKE NOLEN (5) 57.0/57.0 $402,000  $242,000     4--4-3 01-02-13  1-20

2nd - 3.3L SOUTHERN SPEED - CRAIG WILLIAMS 57.0, 3rd - 3.8L PLAYING GOD - STEVEN PARNHAM 59.0, 4th - 4.8L ILLO - KERRIN MC EVOY 59.0

Result

  4.5L  1st of 6 27 Jan 2012 MOONEE VALLEY  R4 AUSTRALIA STAKES (G2) 3yo+ OPEN  1200m  G(3) 33.51 / 1:09.44 
  LUKE NOLEN (1) 56.5/56.5 $201,000  $121,000     3---3 02-00-07  1-20

2nd - 4.3L ZEDI KNIGHT - JAMIE MOTT 58.5, 3rd - 8.8L DOUBTFUL JACK - JASON BENBOW 58.5, 4th - 9.3L ROCK CLASSIC - STEVE ARNOLD 58.5

11 weeks 6 days
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Result

  3L  1st of 7 5 Nov 2011 FLEMINGTON  R5 PATINACK FARM CLASSIC (G1) OPEN  1200m  G(3) 32.78 / 1:08.32 
14 days LUKE NOLEN (4) 56.5/56.5 $1,002,500  $602,500     2--2-1 00-00-00  1-20

2nd - 2.8L BUFFERING - NASH RAWILLER 58.5, 3rd - 3.8L MID SUMMER MUSIC - BEN MELHAM 56.5, 4th - 4L CURTANA - DARREN BEADMAN 56.5

Result

  6L  1st of 4 22 Oct 2011 MOONEE VALLEY  R5 SCHWEPPES STAKES (G2) OPEN  1200m  D(4) 33.73 / 1:10.13 
14 days LUKE NOLEN (3) 56.5/56.5 $302,500  $182,500     2--2-2 01-01-06  1-20

2nd - 6L DOUBTFUL JACK - DWAYNE DUNN 58.5, 3rd - 7.3L HERE DE ANGELS - CLARE LINDOP 58.5, 4th - 7.6L SCENIC BLAST - STEVE ARNOLD 58.5

Result

  4.5L  1st of 8 8 Oct 2011 CAULFIELD  R4 SCHILLACI STAKES (G2) 3yo+ OPEN  1000m  D(4) 33.46 / 0:56.73 
  LUKE NOLEN (5) 56.5/56.5 $201,000  $121,000     4--4-2 03-03-10  1-14
Settled one out one back. Cruising on turning. She's far too good!! 
2nd - 4.3L KARUTA QUEEN - TOMMY BERRY 51.0, 3rd - 4.7L STIRLING GROVE - DAMIEN OLIVER 58.5, 4th - 6.2L PLATINUM SKYE - NASH RAWILLER 56.5

4 months 3 weeks 
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Result

  2L  1st of 8 14 May 2011 DOOMBEN  R7 B T C CUP (G1) OPEN  1200m  D(4) 32.87 / 1:08.85 
35 days LUKE NOLEN (4) 56.5/56.5 $405,500  $261,500     3---3 00-01-06  1-7
Stalked her old sparring partner Hay List. Chased him down again. Great mare. 
2nd - 2L HAY LIST - GLEN BOSS 58.5, 3rd - 6.8L BUFFERING - LARRY CASSIDY 57.0, 4th - 7L NO EVIDENCE NEEDED - DWAYNE DUNN 56.5

Result

  3L  1st of 11 9 Apr 2011 RANDWICK  R5 DARLEY T J SMITH STAKES (G1) OPEN  1200m  D(4) 34.77 / 1:08.71 
15 days LUKE NOLEN (5) 56.5/56.5 $1,003,300  $603,300  Jumped awkwardly.   3---3 01-02-09  1-7
Settled third, two deep. Hay List slipped away, picked up and mowed him down. Outstanding!! 
2nd - 2.8L HAY LIST - GLYN SCHOFIELD 58.5, 3rd - 7.8L TRIPLE HONOUR - JIM CASSIDY 58.5, 4th - 7.9L ALVERTA - HUGH BOWMAN 56.5

Result

  1.8L  1st of 7 25 Mar 2011 MOONEE VALLEY  R7 PULSE PHARMACY WILLIAM REID (G1) OPEN  1200m  G(3) 34.47 / 1:10.00 
13 days LUKE NOLEN (6) 56.5/56.5 $510,000  $310,000     3---1 01-02-06  1-11
Won easing up over last 100m. Terrific mare. 
2nd - 1.8L CRYSTAL LILY - STEPHEN BASTER 54.0, 3rd - 3.1L HINCHINBROOK - BRAD RAWILLER 56.0, 4th - 6.6L PERTURBO - BEN MELHAM 58.5

Result

  3L  1st of 11 12 Mar 2011 FLEMINGTON  R6 LEXUS NEWMARKET HANDICAP (G1) OPEN  1200m  G(3) 32.69 / 1:07.36 
21 days LUKE NOLEN (7) 58.0/58.0 $1,005,000  $605,000     3--3-1 03-03-09  2-11

2nd - 3L CRYSTAL LILY - STEPHEN BASTER 50.0, 3rd - 3.8L BEADED - CRAIG NEWITT 52.5, 4th - 6.1L RESPONSE - CRAIG WILLIAMS 52.0

Result

  3.5L  1st of 9 19 Feb 2011 FLEMINGTON  R6 COOLMORE LIGHTNING STAKES (G1) OPEN  1000m  D(4) 32.95 / 0:57.20 
  LUKE NOLEN (6) 56.5/56.5 $752,500  $452,500     3--3-1 01-03-07  2-7

2nd - 3.3L HAY LIST - GLYN SCHOFIELD 58.5, 3rd - 5.1L WARM LOVE - BEN MELHAM 53.5, 4th - 5.5L GRAND DUELS - STEVE ARNOLD 58.5

3 months 2 weeks 
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Result

  4L  1st of 7 6 Nov 2010 FLEMINGTON  R5 PATINACK FARM CLASSIC (G1) OPEN  1200m  D(4) 33.36 / 1:07.96 
14 days BEN MELHAM (6) 56.5/56.5 $752,500  $452,500     1--1-1 00-00-00  9-10

2nd - 4L STAR WITNESS - JAMES WINKS 53.5, 3rd - 6.3L ORTENSIA - CRAIG WILLIAMS 56.5, 4th - 6.7L ALL SILENT - DWAYNE DUNN 58.5

Result

  5.5L  1st of 6 23 Oct 2010 MOONEE VALLEY  R5 SCHWEPPES STAKES (G2) OPEN  1200m  D(4) 35.26 / 1:11.01 
14 days LUKE NOLEN (2) 56.5/56.5 $305,000  $185,000     2--2-2 01-02-07  2-5

2nd - 5.5L HOT DANISH - TIM CLARK 56.5, 3rd - 6.3L TRUE PERSUASION - CRAIG NEWITT 58.5, 4th - 7.3L EAGLE FALLS - DAMIEN OLIVER 58.5

Result

  1.3L  1st of 8 9 Oct 2010 CAULFIELD  R4 P F D FOOD SERV. SCHILLACI STK (G2) 3yo+ OPEN  1000m  G(3) 32.76 / 0:56.68 
  LUKE NOLEN (2) 56.5/56.5 $201,000  $121,000     2--2-1 03-02-09  4-5

2nd - 1.3L WINTER KING - NASH RAWILLER 58.5, 3rd - 3.6L GENERAL TRUCE - DEAN YENDALL 53.0, 4th - 4L STAR WITNESS - JAMES WINKS 53.0

8 months 2 weeks 
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BT 0.8L  1st 20 Sep 2010 CRANBOURNE R1 (Barrier Trial) 800m G 0.47:75 
  LUKE NOLEN (1)             

Scratching 13 Feb 2010 MOONEE VALLEY - R7 Pulse Pharmacy William Reid $510,000 - 1200m DEAD(5)

Result

  2.5L  1st of 5 22 Jan 2010 MOONEE VALLEY  R6 ESSENDON MAZDA AUST. STAKES (G2) 3yo+ OPEN  1200m  G(3) 34.08 / 1:10.18 
  LUKE NOLEN (4) 53.0/53.0 $202,500  $122,500   barrier blanket first time 2--2-2 03-02-05  8-11

2nd - 2.3L HERE DE ANGELS - MICHAEL RODD 58.5, 3rd - 4.1L LA ROCKET - STEPHEN BASTER 58.5, 4th - 4.4L ROYAL IDA - DAMIEN OLIVER 58.5

4 months 2 weeks 
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Result

  0.8L  1st of 9 5 Sep 2009 FLEMINGTON  R6 DANEHILL STAKES (G2) 3yo OPEN  1200m  G(3) 33.63 / 1:09.96 
14 days LUKE NOLEN (2) 54.0/54.0 $251,500  $151,500  Blundered at start.   1--1-1 00-02-08  4-9

2nd - 0.8L WANTED - BRAD RAWILLER 55.5, 3rd - 1.3L RAREFIED - MARK ZAHRA 55.5, 4th - 1.5L DELAGO BOLT - STEVE ARNOLD 57.0

Result

  4L  1st of 5 22 Aug 2009 MOONEE VALLEY  R1 ARROW TRAINING SERVICES PLATE (LR) F 3yo OPEN  1200m  G(3) 34.41 / 1:11.15 
  LUKE NOLEN (3) 56.5/56.5 $101,000  $61,000  Struck interference at start.   2--2-2 01-01-06  1-5

2nd - 3.8L MIRACULOUS MISS - STEVEN KING 55.0, 3rd - 3.9L ORBITING BELLE - DALE SMITH 55.0, 4th - 4.7L ABSOLUTE FAITH - CRAIG NEWITT 55.0

3 months 3 weeks 
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Result

  6L  1st of 10 2 May 2009 CAULFIELD  R4 BLUE SAPPHIRE STAKES (LR) 2yo OPEN  1200m  G(3) 35.10 / 1:09.76 
14 days JARRAD NOSKE (7) 57.5/57.5 $100,500  $60,500  Slowly away.   1--1-1 02-01-05  1-2
Slowly away. Rolled around the field to take it up and bolt away on straightening. Big future. 
2nd - 6L DEMERIT - CHRIS SYMONS 57.0, 3rd - 6.2L CARRARA - DANNY BRERETON 57.5, 4th - 9.2L TAKE THE RAP - MARK FLAHERTY 58.0

Result

  5L  1st of 12 18 Apr 2009 FLEMINGTON  R2 CROMWELL HANDICAP 2yo OPEN  1000m  D(4) 32.76 / 0:56.63 
  JARRAD NOSKE (10) 53.0/51.5 $75,000  $45,750     2--2-1 02-01-10  2-1

2nd - 5L KWASSA KWASSA - LOGAN MC GILL 57.0, 3rd - 5.3L TAKE THE RAP - BRENTON AVDULLA 53.0, 4th - 6.3L AMAETHON - CHRIS SYMONS 55.0

BT 5L  1st 30 Mar 2009 CRANBOURNE R4 (Barrier Trial) 800m D 0.46:10 
  LUKE NOLEN (1)





Horse travels 10496.09 miles and....



  0.2L  1st of 14 23 Jun 2012 GB - ASCOT DIAMOND JUBILEE STAKES (BRITISH CHAMPIONS SERIES & GLOBAL SPRINT CHALLENGE) (GROUP 1) 3yo+ SW  1207m  D 1:14.10 
42 days LUKE NOLEN (15) 57.5/57.5 £500,000  £283,550     --- 00-00-00  1-6
with leaders going well, shaken up 2f out, ridden to lead over 1f out, pushed out inside final furlong, rider eased when in command towards finish, driven and held on final strides 
2nd - 0.2L MOONLIGHT CLOUD - THIERRY JARNET 57.5, 3rd - 0.6L RESTIADARGENT - MAXIME GUYON 54.5, 4th - 1.35L SOUL - FRANKIE DETTORI 59


Met with howls of derision......based on first hand "experience" of but the last 70 seconds

of her career record..... from those so "knowledgeable" on here.

What have I learned?


Humans can be so very strange. It's like a success starved tennis nation that has no

shortage of similar types who revel in Andy Murray's "failures". A guy who mixes it with the

absolute best...gives his all yet, so far, unable to climb that final peak.

Howls of derision from a tragic bunch, sounds familiar, eh?

That's what I've learnt!

I've learnt to judge a career on it's merits. Not one Grand Slam or one particular Horse-race


Cool
Report GOD-THE-SNAIL July 10, 2012 7:09 PM BST
The point is that it was the first time she had raced outside Australia,so her form here is what counts to us.She was beating horses of unknown ability over there,to us.Her form in that Ascot race is what we calculate.Times on flat ice rinks over there mean nothing.She ran slower than a handicapper of limited ability carrying more weight.And Frankel showed who is the best,can you admit that?
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON July 10, 2012 7:16 PM BST
Can you even form a sentence without mentioning Frankel?

Sick unit you are.

Seek help
Report GOD-THE-SNAIL July 10, 2012 7:18 PM BST
Then you have zero credibility.
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON July 10, 2012 7:19 PM BST
Ok, if it makes you feel better....I'll join your club Laugh
Report GOD-THE-SNAIL July 10, 2012 7:20 PM BST
Well done,sanity at last.Grin
Report Anaglogs Daughter July 10, 2012 7:26 PM BST
Frankelstein the monster
Report Sir Epicure Mammon July 10, 2012 11:41 PM BST
The rules re steroid use in Aussie Racing are different to Uk are they not ?
In Australia they can't run with any prohibited substance in their system such as would be picked up by post race dope test. However they 'spell' horses regularly and some may be given steroids so as when they return to full training they put on an unnatural amount of physical bulk ( such as Hulk Hogan in his prime) . This gives them an unfair advantage against European sprinters and this was the point Mark Johnston made  a few years back in relation to another Moody horse ; Magnus.
I believe there was an intention to test horses hair after races as analysis could then trace steroid use for up to 9 mths previously. This would clearly inconvenience the Aussies.
Back home and returned to usual 'diet'form will improve perhaps ?
Report megsy July 10, 2012 11:48 PM BST
Sir Epicure Mammon what a load of crap, not very bright are you LaughLaugh
Report GT-MOLE July 10, 2012 11:54 PM BST
Megsypup why are you lot still seething,any news on "The injury" yet or is Monty Roberts or Yogi Bear still working on her.

Veni Vedi...............LOLLaughWink

And you know I was a fan.LoveLove
Report GT-MOLE July 10, 2012 11:57 PM BST
Btw you are right about epicure.........not very bright........down to DOPE tests the UK would lose most of its bar staff.........not to mention Paris.

The world is a bit short of great Aussies.........especially explorers,why?LaughWink
Report tobermory July 11, 2012 12:02 AM BST
judging her on one obviously below par run seems silly to me

If thats what we have to rate her on then i guess she is more highly regarded in the UK than Dancing Brave was by Americans
Report GT-MOLE July 11, 2012 12:08 AM BST
Tobermory.........the only reason she went to the UK is because Ascot paid her expenses and her connections earned a good few $$$$$$££££££££s.

A one off job by Ascot and foolish........they knew they only had to beat GP2 animals at best.napSadShockedWink
Report tobermory July 11, 2012 12:16 AM BST
yeah the sprint division is pretty 2nd rate but she has been by so far the best

I do think though she ran way below her best form and Immortal Verse would win a couple of Group 1s this season
Report GT-MOLE July 11, 2012 12:23 AM BST
TBF they went,they saw..........they LOST imo.

BC never came near a track record despite her obvious superiority at home.

Plenty of UK sprinters would have stuffed her in the past.
Report tobermory July 11, 2012 12:44 AM BST
of course when i say Immortal Verse i mean Moonlight Cloud Crazy

generally the Aus sprinters have been better or at least same level as the best in UK .Choisir beat some really good UK sprinters from what i recall, better than those around now.

And the Aussies rate Black Caviar a different level to Choisir et al .It just so happens that he ran up to form over here and she didn't , though still won, and would have won decisively but for the jockey
Report Anaglogs Daughter July 11, 2012 12:48 AM BST
Is she there yet???? Is she there yet???? Is she there yet???
Report GT-MOLE July 11, 2012 12:55 AM BST
You live your life Tobermory..........and no disrespect ever intended........but pastel coloured houses have more substance than Black Caviar.

She is/was decent.......but summed up her Antipodean roots as being average at best........no wonder they swerved Hong Kong,Singapore and the Knackered llama Jump in Japan.CrySad
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON July 11, 2012 12:57 AM BST
What have I learned?.....hmmmm that's tricky

OVER FOUR SEASONS....


Scratching 13 May 2012 MORPHETTVILLE - R7 The Goodwood $500,000 - 1200m 

Result

  1.3L  1st of 9 12 May 2012 MORPHETTVILLE  R7 THE GOODWOOD (G1) 3yo+ OPEN  1200m  G(3) 602 - 0:34.06 / 1:10.32 
14 days LUKE NOLEN (8) 57/57 $500,000  $320,000     2---1 00-01-02  1-20

2nd - 1.3L WE'RE GONNA ROCK - MICHAEL RODD 56, 3rd - 4.3L STIRLING GROVE - PAUL GATT 54.5, 4th - 6.3L STANZOUT - DWAYNE DUNN 54.5

Scratching 29 Apr 2012 MORPHETTVILLE - R7 Sportingbet Robert Sangster $400,000 - 1200m 

Result

  4.5L  1st of 10 28 Apr 2012 MORPHETTVILLE  R7 SPORTINGBET ROBERT SANGSTER (G1) FM OPEN  1200m  D(4) 0:35.37 / 1:10.65 
  LUKE NOLEN (3) 56.5/56.5 $400,400  $254,600     1---3 02-04-10  1-20

2nd - 4.5L SISTINE ANGEL - MICHELLE PAYNE 56.5, 3rd - 4.6L POWER PRINCESS - PAUL GATT 56.5, 4th - 4.9L LONE ROCK - MARK ZAHRA 56.5

10 weeks 
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Result

  1.8L  1st of 9 18 Feb 2012 FLEMINGTON  R6 COOLMORE LIGHTNING STAKES (G1) OPEN  1000m  G(3) 31.82 / 0:55.53 
7 days LUKE NOLEN (5) 56.5/56.5 $752,500  $452,500     2--2-1 01-02-09  1-10

2nd - 1.8L HAY LIST - GLYN SCHOFIELD 58.5, 3rd - 3.8L BUFFERING - MICHAEL RODD 58.5, 4th - 3.9L FOXWEDGE - NASH RAWILLER 55.5

Result

  3.5L  1st of 9 11 Feb 2012 CAULFIELD  R6 SPORTINGBET C.F. ORR STAKES (G1) OPEN  1400m  D(4) 33.39 / 1:25.14 
15 days LUKE NOLEN (5) 57.0/57.0 $402,000  $242,000     4--4-3 01-02-13  1-20

2nd - 3.3L SOUTHERN SPEED - CRAIG WILLIAMS 57.0, 3rd - 3.8L PLAYING GOD - STEVEN PARNHAM 59.0, 4th - 4.8L ILLO - KERRIN MC EVOY 59.0

Result

  4.5L  1st of 6 27 Jan 2012 MOONEE VALLEY  R4 AUSTRALIA STAKES (G2) 3yo+ OPEN  1200m  G(3) 33.51 / 1:09.44 
  LUKE NOLEN (1) 56.5/56.5 $201,000  $121,000     3---3 02-00-07  1-20

2nd - 4.3L ZEDI KNIGHT - JAMIE MOTT 58.5, 3rd - 8.8L DOUBTFUL JACK - JASON BENBOW 58.5, 4th - 9.3L ROCK CLASSIC - STEVE ARNOLD 58.5

11 weeks 6 days
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Result

  3L  1st of 7 5 Nov 2011 FLEMINGTON  R5 PATINACK FARM CLASSIC (G1) OPEN  1200m  G(3) 32.78 / 1:08.32 
14 days LUKE NOLEN (4) 56.5/56.5 $1,002,500  $602,500     2--2-1 00-00-00  1-20

2nd - 2.8L BUFFERING - NASH RAWILLER 58.5, 3rd - 3.8L MID SUMMER MUSIC - BEN MELHAM 56.5, 4th - 4L CURTANA - DARREN BEADMAN 56.5

Result

  6L  1st of 4 22 Oct 2011 MOONEE VALLEY  R5 SCHWEPPES STAKES (G2) OPEN  1200m  D(4) 33.73 / 1:10.13 
14 days LUKE NOLEN (3) 56.5/56.5 $302,500  $182,500     2--2-2 01-01-06  1-20

2nd - 6L DOUBTFUL JACK - DWAYNE DUNN 58.5, 3rd - 7.3L HERE DE ANGELS - CLARE LINDOP 58.5, 4th - 7.6L SCENIC BLAST - STEVE ARNOLD 58.5

Result

  4.5L  1st of 8 8 Oct 2011 CAULFIELD  R4 SCHILLACI STAKES (G2) 3yo+ OPEN  1000m  D(4) 33.46 / 0:56.73 
  LUKE NOLEN (5) 56.5/56.5 $201,000  $121,000     4--4-2 03-03-10  1-14
Settled one out one back. Cruising on turning. She's far too good!! 
2nd - 4.3L KARUTA QUEEN - TOMMY BERRY 51.0, 3rd - 4.7L STIRLING GROVE - DAMIEN OLIVER 58.5, 4th - 6.2L PLATINUM SKYE - NASH RAWILLER 56.5

4 months 3 weeks 
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Result

  2L  1st of 8 14 May 2011 DOOMBEN  R7 B T C CUP (G1) OPEN  1200m  D(4) 32.87 / 1:08.85 
35 days LUKE NOLEN (4) 56.5/56.5 $405,500  $261,500     3---3 00-01-06  1-7
Stalked her old sparring partner Hay List. Chased him down again. Great mare. 
2nd - 2L HAY LIST - GLEN BOSS 58.5, 3rd - 6.8L BUFFERING - LARRY CASSIDY 57.0, 4th - 7L NO EVIDENCE NEEDED - DWAYNE DUNN 56.5

Result

  3L  1st of 11 9 Apr 2011 RANDWICK  R5 DARLEY T J SMITH STAKES (G1) OPEN  1200m  D(4) 34.77 / 1:08.71 
15 days LUKE NOLEN (5) 56.5/56.5 $1,003,300  $603,300  Jumped awkwardly.   3---3 01-02-09  1-7
Settled third, two deep. Hay List slipped away, picked up and mowed him down. Outstanding!! 
2nd - 2.8L HAY LIST - GLYN SCHOFIELD 58.5, 3rd - 7.8L TRIPLE HONOUR - JIM CASSIDY 58.5, 4th - 7.9L ALVERTA - HUGH BOWMAN 56.5

Result

  1.8L  1st of 7 25 Mar 2011 MOONEE VALLEY  R7 PULSE PHARMACY WILLIAM REID (G1) OPEN  1200m  G(3) 34.47 / 1:10.00 
13 days LUKE NOLEN (6) 56.5/56.5 $510,000  $310,000     3---1 01-02-06  1-11
Won easing up over last 100m. Terrific mare. 
2nd - 1.8L CRYSTAL LILY - STEPHEN BASTER 54.0, 3rd - 3.1L HINCHINBROOK - BRAD RAWILLER 56.0, 4th - 6.6L PERTURBO - BEN MELHAM 58.5

Result

  3L  1st of 11 12 Mar 2011 FLEMINGTON  R6 LEXUS NEWMARKET HANDICAP (G1) OPEN  1200m  G(3) 32.69 / 1:07.36 
21 days LUKE NOLEN (7) 58.0/58.0 $1,005,000  $605,000     3--3-1 03-03-09  2-11

2nd - 3L CRYSTAL LILY - STEPHEN BASTER 50.0, 3rd - 3.8L BEADED - CRAIG NEWITT 52.5, 4th - 6.1L RESPONSE - CRAIG WILLIAMS 52.0

Result

  3.5L  1st of 9 19 Feb 2011 FLEMINGTON  R6 COOLMORE LIGHTNING STAKES (G1) OPEN  1000m  D(4) 32.95 / 0:57.20 
  LUKE NOLEN (6) 56.5/56.5 $752,500  $452,500     3--3-1 01-03-07  2-7

2nd - 3.3L HAY LIST - GLYN SCHOFIELD 58.5, 3rd - 5.1L WARM LOVE - BEN MELHAM 53.5, 4th - 5.5L GRAND DUELS - STEVE ARNOLD 58.5

3 months 2 weeks 
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Result

  4L  1st of 7 6 Nov 2010 FLEMINGTON  R5 PATINACK FARM CLASSIC (G1) OPEN  1200m  D(4) 33.36 / 1:07.96 
14 days BEN MELHAM (6) 56.5/56.5 $752,500  $452,500     1--1-1 00-00-00  9-10

2nd - 4L STAR WITNESS - JAMES WINKS 53.5, 3rd - 6.3L ORTENSIA - CRAIG WILLIAMS 56.5, 4th - 6.7L ALL SILENT - DWAYNE DUNN 58.5

Result

  5.5L  1st of 6 23 Oct 2010 MOONEE VALLEY  R5 SCHWEPPES STAKES (G2) OPEN  1200m  D(4) 35.26 / 1:11.01 
14 days LUKE NOLEN (2) 56.5/56.5 $305,000  $185,000     2--2-2 01-02-07  2-5

2nd - 5.5L HOT DANISH - TIM CLARK 56.5, 3rd - 6.3L TRUE PERSUASION - CRAIG NEWITT 58.5, 4th - 7.3L EAGLE FALLS - DAMIEN OLIVER 58.5

Result

  1.3L  1st of 8 9 Oct 2010 CAULFIELD  R4 P F D FOOD SERV. SCHILLACI STK (G2) 3yo+ OPEN  1000m  G(3) 32.76 / 0:56.68 
  LUKE NOLEN (2) 56.5/56.5 $201,000  $121,000     2--2-1 03-02-09  4-5

2nd - 1.3L WINTER KING - NASH RAWILLER 58.5, 3rd - 3.6L GENERAL TRUCE - DEAN YENDALL 53.0, 4th - 4L STAR WITNESS - JAMES WINKS 53.0

8 months 2 weeks 
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BT 0.8L  1st 20 Sep 2010 CRANBOURNE R1 (Barrier Trial) 800m G 0.47:75 
  LUKE NOLEN (1)             

Scratching 13 Feb 2010 MOONEE VALLEY - R7 Pulse Pharmacy William Reid $510,000 - 1200m DEAD(5)

Result

  2.5L  1st of 5 22 Jan 2010 MOONEE VALLEY  R6 ESSENDON MAZDA AUST. STAKES (G2) 3yo+ OPEN  1200m  G(3) 34.08 / 1:10.18 
  LUKE NOLEN (4) 53.0/53.0 $202,500  $122,500   barrier blanket first time 2--2-2 03-02-05  8-11

2nd - 2.3L HERE DE ANGELS - MICHAEL RODD 58.5, 3rd - 4.1L LA ROCKET - STEPHEN BASTER 58.5, 4th - 4.4L ROYAL IDA - DAMIEN OLIVER 58.5

4 months 2 weeks 
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Result

  0.8L  1st of 9 5 Sep 2009 FLEMINGTON  R6 DANEHILL STAKES (G2) 3yo OPEN  1200m  G(3) 33.63 / 1:09.96 
14 days LUKE NOLEN (2) 54.0/54.0 $251,500  $151,500  Blundered at start.   1--1-1 00-02-08  4-9

2nd - 0.8L WANTED - BRAD RAWILLER 55.5, 3rd - 1.3L RAREFIED - MARK ZAHRA 55.5, 4th - 1.5L DELAGO BOLT - STEVE ARNOLD 57.0

Result

  4L  1st of 5 22 Aug 2009 MOONEE VALLEY  R1 ARROW TRAINING SERVICES PLATE (LR) F 3yo OPEN  1200m  G(3) 34.41 / 1:11.15 
  LUKE NOLEN (3) 56.5/56.5 $101,000  $61,000  Struck interference at start.   2--2-2 01-01-06  1-5

2nd - 3.8L MIRACULOUS MISS - STEVEN KING 55.0, 3rd - 3.9L ORBITING BELLE - DALE SMITH 55.0, 4th - 4.7L ABSOLUTE FAITH - CRAIG NEWITT 55.0

3 months 3 weeks 
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Result

  6L  1st of 10 2 May 2009 CAULFIELD  R4 BLUE SAPPHIRE STAKES (LR) 2yo OPEN  1200m  G(3) 35.10 / 1:09.76 
14 days JARRAD NOSKE (7) 57.5/57.5 $100,500  $60,500  Slowly away.   1--1-1 02-01-05  1-2
Slowly away. Rolled around the field to take it up and bolt away on straightening. Big future. 
2nd - 6L DEMERIT - CHRIS SYMONS 57.0, 3rd - 6.2L CARRARA - DANNY BRERETON 57.5, 4th - 9.2L TAKE THE RAP - MARK FLAHERTY 58.0

Result

  5L  1st of 12 18 Apr 2009 FLEMINGTON  R2 CROMWELL HANDICAP 2yo OPEN  1000m  D(4) 32.76 / 0:56.63 
  JARRAD NOSKE (10) 53.0/51.5 $75,000  $45,750     2--2-1 02-01-10  2-1

2nd - 5L KWASSA KWASSA - LOGAN MC GILL 57.0, 3rd - 5.3L TAKE THE RAP - BRENTON AVDULLA 53.0, 4th - 6.3L AMAETHON - CHRIS SYMONS 55.0

BT 5L  1st 30 Mar 2009 CRANBOURNE R4 (Barrier Trial) 800m D 0.46:10 
  LUKE NOLEN (1)





Horse travels 10496.09 miles and....



  0.2L  1st of 14 23 Jun 2012 GB - ASCOT DIAMOND JUBILEE STAKES (BRITISH CHAMPIONS SERIES & GLOBAL SPRINT CHALLENGE) (GROUP 1) 3yo+ SW  1207m  D 1:14.10 
42 days LUKE NOLEN (15) 57.5/57.5 £500,000  £283,550     --- 00-00-00  1-6
with leaders going well, shaken up 2f out, ridden to lead over 1f out, pushed out inside final furlong, rider eased when in command towards finish, driven and held on final strides 
2nd - 0.2L MOONLIGHT CLOUD - THIERRY JARNET 57.5, 3rd - 0.6L RESTIADARGENT - MAXIME GUYON 54.5, 4th - 1.35L SOUL - FRANKIE DETTORI 59


Met with howls of derision......based on first hand "experience" of but the last 70 seconds

of her career record..... from those so "knowledgeable" on here.

What have I learned?

Humans can be so very strange. It's like a success starved tennis nation that has no

shortage of similar types who revel in Andy Murray's "failures". A guy who mixes it with the

absolute best...gives his all yet, so far, unable to climb that final peak.

Howls of derision from a tragic bunch, sounds familiar, eh?

That's what I've learnt!

I've learnt to judge a career on it's merits. Not one Grand Slam or one particular Horse-race

Cool



Is she there yet???? Is she there yet???? Is she there yet???

Ohhhh yeeeeeeeeeaaaaah, she's there alright Laugh

Right inside your pointy little head...buzzing around and driving you nuts.

Every thread and comment about her from you.... a desperate cry for help Cry

"MAKE IT STOPPPPPPPP!!!!!!"

Therapy....anyone? Cool
Report GT-MOLE July 11, 2012 1:02 AM BST
That is a sad waste of your life then unless you made some dough along the way.

Soba
Spindrifter
Amaranda
Sagace
Night Nurse
Sea Pigeon
Sea The Stars
Quixal Crosset
EuroQhunt


All better,all champions,ALL broke track records.hthLoveLoveWink
Report megsy July 11, 2012 1:37 AM BST
GT..mate what have you learned,Happy listen to tobermory, a very wise man

may i suggest those 2nd rate sprinters she only just beat, head down to flemington in november at the end of your racing season and try beating her re fresh over the same distance. no doubt you will see a different result.


cheers big ears Wink
Report GT-MOLE July 11, 2012 1:55 AM BST
Megsy...........when I pop my clogs and get deported from paradise in a box..........I will MARRY EWE before I will tell lies.

LUV YOU BTW.........that is KNOT A LIE.........nor an invitation.ExcitedLoveBlushCoolWink
Report megsy July 11, 2012 3:21 AM BST
i have that effect on some people, haha WinkWhoopsHappy

your in paradise??...mate, head over here, were in heaven HappyWink
Report GT-MOLE July 11, 2012 3:25 AM BST
Did you get that Kitchen from the bloke in the City?
Report megsy July 11, 2012 3:40 AM BST
nope, still using your old one Wink

how's life in your neck of the woods?
Report GT-MOLE July 11, 2012 3:45 AM BST
Not so bad mate,hoping to visit the old country in a few weeks,not sure I can handle all that rain though?CrazyWink
Report taj rossi July 11, 2012 6:31 AM BST
We have to admit the aussies sprinters are better than ours and she is apparently the best of the lot. She has won 22 straight for gods sake, why do so many of us want to pick on her!! If Frankel went to Oz and won the Cox Plate by a head I would hope the Aussies wouldn't judge him on that run, no matter what he beat. Punters who knock a horse thats won 22 from 22 are in the wrong game!!
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