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Lets Elope
24 Jun 12 10:34
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Incorrect yet again genius you must get sick of being exposed by little things like facts.

Below is the last 600m of her 2012 Lightning Stakes win accomplished after winning a Group 1 over 1400m seven days day earlier and then dropping back to 1000m down the Flemington Straight and reeling off the fastest 200m or 1 furlong sectional in Australian racing history of 9.98 seconds.

And when the heat went on the champ reeled off her final 600 metres in a freakish 31.78 seconds, with 200m sectionals of 10.21, 9.98 and 10.40.

The following is the story that information came from.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-18/black-caviar-strikes-twice-in-lightning/3837972
World champion Black Caviar has bolted away with her second Lightning Stakes (1,000m) at Flemington, scoring the 19th win of her unconquered career.

The victory was Black Caviar's ninth at Group One level and equals the Australasian record for consecutive wins set by Gloaming (1919-21) and Desert Gold (1915-17).
Audio: Race Call: Black Caviar wins 19th straight (ABC News)

The chips were down on Saturday as her great rival Hay List threw down the gauntlet and looked a danger inside the final 400 metres.

For a fleeting moment some dared to ponder the unthinkable, but jockey Luke Nolen asked Black Caviar ($1.10 favourite) for the supreme effort and she edged away to score by 1-3/4 lengths in a blistering 55.53 seconds.

Hay List ($12) was 1-3/4 lengths behind in second, while Buffering ($71) was a further two lengths away in third.

"Hay List had me worried there for a couple of strides ... I've just got to take my hat off to that mare. She's bloody wonderful," an emotional Nolen said after returning to scale.

"She touched me today. She's probably been a bit of a protected species because of the way she goes about winning her races, but it was great to see that when the chips were down how much courage she had.

"Champions just continue to do it, don't they?"

The tough run was more than what trainer Peter Moody had hoped for with a view to backing up Black Caviar in next week's Futurity Stakes (1,400m).

The pre-race plan was to not let her rivals dictate and Nolen had Black Caviar right on the speed set by Hay List and Buffering.

And when the heat went on the champ reeled off her final 600 metres in a freakish 31.78 seconds, with 200m sectionals of 10.21, 9.98 and 10.40.

"We had the best horse in the race and we were going to dominate them and Luke rode her accordingly," Moody said.

"It certainly wasn't her most dominant win but it's probably the closest she's been to a course record and she was pushed by a great horse.

"She's just a champion."

Such was the ease of Black Caviar's win in last Saturday's Orr Stakes that Moody asked his mare to back up within a week - making an unorthodox drop from 1,400m to the straight 1,000m.

And while racegoers have been spoiled by Black Caviar in the past fortnight, a third race in as many weeks seems unlikely.

"I can pretty much say that she won't be there next week," Moody said. "For her to be there next Saturday she probably had to have it softer today.

"We'll let the dust settle and now it's a matter of determining probably whether if she goes to Dubai she's probably run her last race in Australia this prep.

"If she doesn't go to Dubai, then we'll look at what option leads us into Ascot."

If the rich Golden Shaheen (1,200m) on Dubai World Cup night is the option, Black Caviar will forgo the chance to win a record 20th victory in Australia.

"I'd love to see it and there is some possibility that won't take place now, but we've never let our heart get in the way of where she should be going," Moody said.
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Report Lets Elope June 24, 2012 1:32 PM BST
As for analgog's credibility, he can't even get simple facts correct or worse still deliberately attempts to mislead people if we don't give him the benefit of the doubt of somehow getting wrong a readily verifiable fact.

Liar or simpleton take your pick
Report spyker June 24, 2012 1:42 PM BST
LE - you realy are looking a bit sad now and losing any respect you may have had but heyho.
Report MathewC June 24, 2012 1:48 PM BST
He's actually contributing correct information instead of plaguing the forums with false facts that feed the trolls.
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y June 24, 2012 1:54 PM BST
Are you lot still seething that she only scraped home?? Plain
Report MathewC June 24, 2012 1:57 PM BST
No?
Report Rubideux June 24, 2012 2:02 PM BST
He wast talking about their fastest furlongs at the Ascot meet.
Report Lets Elope June 24, 2012 2:12 PM BST
Spyker
This guy attempts to put forward his frankel is superior to anything propaganda all over our forum and yours and then deliberately or otherwise posts incorrect misleading statements about who has run the fastest 200m sectional.

It took me all of one minute to google and search for the correct information as to Black Caviar's fastest official 200m sectional, so that was a readily verifiable fact.

How or why did he manage to get it so wrong and that severely brings into question his motivation for posting that information and or his credibility.

There are many astute observers and form students who agree that while frankel clearly is an outstanding horse and deserves a very high rating none of which I or any other thinking person has ever disputed but that there are severe question marks over the opposition he has beaten.

Please don't try and pass off the likes of Rio Del la Plata and excelebration off as a genuine top class group 1 horses as we all know that's not the case

As I and others have consistently maintained when Frankel spanks a genuine top class horse over their preferred distance with everything being right with all concerned such as Camelot or even So You Think etc who for some bizarre reason considering how inferior you guys claim So You Think is, Frankel's trainer refused to tackle him in the Prince of Wales, a race which carries more prestige and stakes money than the Queen Anne.

You can't logically argue that he's earned the rating of greatest horses of all time when he has effectively beaten very little.

He has come back a more mature and settled animal both mentally and physically and I expect him to go on to great heights but if he is that good why does the trainer appear to be avoiding any clash with proven high class group 1 performers.

It's not frankel's fault that a genuine top liner in canford cliffs pulled up sore and never raced again but unfortunately that is a fact and until he does take on the best and spanks them emphatically as he did to vastly inferior horses at Ascot that label can't be taken seriously by any logical thinking form assessor.
Report Lets Elope June 24, 2012 2:14 PM BST
I don't believe he was and he never to the best of my knowledge stated that in his post and if so I stand corrected and apologise.
Report Lets Elope June 24, 2012 2:25 PM BST
Just checked his post and he never specified those sectionals were for the Ascot meeting again misleading deliberately or otherwise, However I will give him the benefit of the doubt that he was talking about their respective fastest 200m sectionals at the Ascot meeting.

Also he fails to take into account the obvious fact that frankel raced on pristine untouched ground where as by the time Black Caviar raced the surface had been raced on by numerous horses for five days straight.
Report barkinggreville June 24, 2012 2:32 PM BST
jeez what would you have been like if Deacon Blue had been able to run and beat Black Caviar? I dread to thinkMischief
Report Anaglogs Daughter June 24, 2012 2:34 PM BST
Dandy Boy ran faster ..An auld Irish Handicapper LaughLaugh
Report Lets Elope June 24, 2012 2:36 PM BST
I won't even bother dignifying that last comment with any sort of factual reply as you have clearly exposed yet again your own ignorance.
Report Anaglogs Daughter June 24, 2012 2:36 PM BST
The Wonder From Down Under don't make me laugh . . more like The Failure from Australia . .Dandy Boy would beat a fit Black Caviar 5 Lengths . . Just Hope Luke will be riding her if they meet then it will be 10 Lengths Laugh
Report MathewC June 24, 2012 2:38 PM BST
Win 22 races in a row on 2 different continents: you're a failure!
Report barkinggreville June 24, 2012 5:35 PM BST
Granted that may have been an off day but by no stretch of the imagination can yesterdays effort be described as that of a champion, not even against 2nd rate (in the main) opposition
Report Big muff June 24, 2012 5:47 PM BST
Clearly the races that she has competed in in Australia are not as competitive as British racing, perhaps they may retire her now theyve realised that shes not quite as good as they thought?
Report barkinggreville June 24, 2012 6:08 PM BST
That maybe a tad unfair given all the travelling different conditions etc, but if that is as good as she is then.............
Report Anaglogs Daughter June 24, 2012 6:10 PM BST
Bless her she's not even related to a group horse in Europe. Top class handicapper alright but way short of Group Class.
Report geoff m June 24, 2012 7:05 PM BST
Letss elope .Please don't try and pass off the likes of Rio Del la Plata and excelebration off as a genuine top class group 1 horses as we all know that's not the case

Why dont folks quote Immortal Verse who Frankel spanked 8 lengths or D!ck Turpin who he left even further behind IN qe2 @ Ascot
I tell you why as there form ties in with Goldikova/Canford Cliffs & makes Frankel the champion he is
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