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Probably an 1/8th the odds to go with it from the parasites.
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Chapman says the bookies don't know what they're doing, of course they know what they're doing, even Worthaad is shortening dramatically 20/1 now was freely available at 33/1 this morning when Frankel was 2/11.
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Gangsters.
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i bet 1/8 [ opened 1/7 ] and 8/1 bar
full 1/5th odds a place and lost £140 on places. don't believe these silly betting shows you see sent to the shops . they are nonsense |
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I would imagine most on course layers would have been win only.
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they were , feltfair , and win only you could get 11/1 and 12/1 bar but the shows sent to the offices relect each way bookmakers but that 5/1 is , in my opinion ,an embarassment to our industry , apart from not representing the truth if you looked about
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a lot of southern bookmakers are w..ters
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wa.kers
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there are also alot of northern ones down here too
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the shows and SP were blatently false ,to protect the off course books (and of course the levy )
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What was your place book % adge?
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the shows and SP were blatently false ,to protect the off course books
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When I spoke to adge as he priced up he was 79% on the places.
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hiya wassie ,hows it going so far ?
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11/2 excelebration, 17.00 on here, say no more, shameful.
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it is disgraceful chelsea ,the shows and SP s bare no resemblance to the on course prices
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Hi DM - was behind going into the last but luckily forgot to lay the winner! Did it in on Dawn Approach (4 monkeys
 )At the off I was 14/1 Excelebration but I was win only. These races are impossible to bet on EW. Hats off to adge for letting the punters have his cash, I wouldn't do it. |
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i would think the 140 was more than made up for by his win book
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Win only I held 38 quid. Had 1 for 900, 2 for 400 and 3 for about 200. Profit on race, 38 quid.
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Adge is a very brave man with a 79% place book.
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Come racing......
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What was the biggest bet you lads layed today?
ps keep up the good work lads, always a good read post meeting from adge and the like.. |
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They bet to 138% in the first today which tells you all you need to know about the grip the parasites have on the game. Combine that with what Adge relates from the track and you have 6 months worth of advertising material for Betfair
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lustrumm clearly hasn't grasped the difference between a betting exchange and a bookmaker.
Welcome aboard lustrumm,close your eyes and enjoy the ride! |
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I was 105% on the win market on course lustrumm.
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I would also add that adge was betting to 79% on the places and accepting place only bets.
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From where I was, it did not seem the bookies were taking many bets, one board was showing 1/7th place terms on that race
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sorry , been out to eat.
i bet to 122% on the win book. as regards lustrumms thoughts re this exchange and course books , maybe you should look at the place market sp on here which compared to my course book is laughable. the tote returns are even worse. the first race was used as a loss leader. many stayed with me all day |
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We stood at ascot yesterday and Bet to average of 80% on the 1st race betting to 1/5 odds a place couldn't really win but as adge says loss leader! If we get a similar race and any of you forumites want to come and stand with me using your own money and going near exchange prices on the boards betting ew 1/5 please contact me. It will be a short and very painful experience!
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Adge, the place market on the first race was always close to 300% on here. There's nothing laughable about that.
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What price was excelebration in the place only market on here out of interest?
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I think it was about 1/3.
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Excelebration was between 1.36 to 1.4 most of the day.
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Rich will you are missing the fact that bet fairs plce Market isn't linked to win Market that's why the 2nd fav was 18s on the win Market yet 3s on in the place Market, by your calcs it should have been 100/30 in place Market! You do the maths!
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So what price do you want these on course parasites to offer then Stewarty? 16/1 for the win and 3.2/1 for a place? It's easy to moan about excelebration only returning 5/1 but the on course are offering even money for a place something that's 1/3 on the exchange. My firm were there and they opened 13/2 excelebration and never went below 11/2 at full odds a place. Needless to say, worse place book you could imagine
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henlowphil, I've been laying books on the place market for the last nine years, I know what the maths are. Where have I said anything about my calcs?
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For them to return 1/10,5/1,10/1,20/1 twice is absolutely scandalous.
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nothinbutthetruth 20 Jun 12 10:41 Joined: 03 Feb 11 | Topic/replies: 24 | Blogger: nothinbutthetruth's blog So what price do you want these on course parasites to offer then Stewarty? 16/1 for the win and 3.2/1 for a place? It's easy to moan about excelebration only returning 5/1 but the on course are offering even money for a place something that's 1/3 on the exchange. My firm were there and they opened 13/2 excelebration and never went below 11/2 at full odds a place. Needless to say, worse place book you could imagine nothinbutthetruth, 11/2 on course at 11/2 and 1/3 a place on here are two different things, as you well know. Would your firm gave 1/3 the 2nd FAV a place only? I doubt it. |
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Couldnt lose @ those prices on the win book.
Do your bollax & more on the place market. E/w Excelebration was a no win situation for the books showed 1.35/1.4 here but was really 1.2 shot for a place only. |