Toms river Tess Folkestone

No preference on the Sporting Life site either.  I thought they were obliged to declare a preference?

i thought that as well....bizarre

Will the trainer be fined for the double declaration on the same card?

I don't think he would be fined for the double declaration as the horse could run in both races if he wished.  I just find it strange that there is no preferred race indicated.

can horses run in two races in the same day in UK - i was not aware if this is the case

I'm not 100% sure but I haven't heard that they can't.

I think they used to be able to  - but cant now...

Thanks Delta - didn't realise that.  Trainer will surely be fined then?

cheers Delta

I know it used to be allowed cos I was at musselburgh once when a horse won the first race and then ran placed in a later race.
probably a horse welfare issue now.

It doesn't matter which one it runs in, it can't possibly win either.

I hope this is of assistance.

Thats a real brave call slicer

Four right

15:45 - THE JOHN L HAVERY 60th BIRTHDAY HANDICAP STAKES (CLASS 6)
Demoiselle Bond (GB)
Declared at: 11/06/2012 11:22
Reason: Going
Do More Business (IRE)
Declared at: 11/06/2012 08:40
Reason: Self Cert (Off Colour)
Pose (IRE)
Declared at: 11/06/2012 07:48
Reason: Vets Cert (Injured in Box)
Smoky Cloud (IRE)
Declared at: 11/06/2012 07:26
Reason: Going
Toms River Tess (IRE)
Declared at: 11/06/2012 11:30
Reason: Double Declaration

the reduction factor is important though...

Outpost • June 11, 2012 11:10 AM BST
I know it used to be allowed cos I was at musselburgh once when a horse won the first race and then ran placed in a later race.
probably a horse welfare issue now.


Was the horse Chaplins Club? Used to win a dozen a season unless my memory is playing tricks on me




which isnt beyond the realms of possibility

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Dont know about a horse winning two races on the same day but i do recall back in the 1970s a horse called Traffic Leader ran in two seperate races at the same race meeting and managed to win one race and was placed in the other.

??

too far back for me delta......i struggle to remember what i had for breakfast............



........ this morning

cornflakes

nah....it was something hot


i think

rules and regs

http://rules.britishhorseracing.com/Orders-and-rules&staticID=126512&depth=3


don't think it was chaplin's club scaredmoney but I do remember him running regularly.

might have been traffic leader delta.
does it say which course he ran twice at?

One example was on 1 July, 1974, when Bell came close to winning two races in one day with the same horse at Edinburgh. Traffic Leader won the seller before only being beaten by a length in the ladies’ race when ridden by Margaret.

that was probably it delta.

I went along with a guy who was back home on holiday from his job with peter walwyn.
apparently the other stable staff in lambourn knew him as "mad jock"
I only found that out years later after he died when I was in lambourn looking at a horse (donkey)
with tim thompson-jones.

cheers

Slicer's Synthetic Statistical Laying Systim strikes again!

Brilliant  . . Four right

what is with this four right business plese?

TRTess - double entry fiasco aside - looks like a horse that should have only ever been run on turf - too many futile AW runs - surfaces on which the horse in no way acts

why do trainers repeatedly put horses through losing experiences in situations to which they have shown zero aptitude?

what is with this four right business plese?


Slicer . . normally carves them off to thee right

OK- if you say so

Well he dont hook them does he or you would be a hooker not a slicer

Folkestone, 11 June 2012

TOMS RIVER TESS (IRE), trained by Zoe Davison, was doubly declared to run in The Bhest Racing To School Handicap Stakes (Class 6) at Folkestone and The John L Havery 60th Birthday Handicap Stakes (Class 6) at Folkestone and ran in the former. The Stewards found the trainer in breach of Rule (F)96.2 and fined her £650.

That paltry fine in no way relects the pain and anguish suffered by punters up and down the country.  If I had my way I would bring back the ducking stool for such appalling offences.  At the very least Ms Davison should have been confined to the stocks overnight.

seems a strange way for a small trainer to chuck 650 notes away...

It seems inconceivable that an elementary error such as this can occur.  As far as I'm aware there hasn't been any explanation from Zoe Davison as to how this occurred.

zoe davidson would only give an explanation to the stewards when asked, as it probably isn't an important enough offence for anybody else to ask.

does seem a strange one though when she actually has to sit down and declare the same horse for both races on the same day.   

maybe the owner wanted both entries so he could pick which race to go for.
he might have had an agreement with the trainer to pay any fine imposed.