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A group of long-term unemployed jobseekers were bussed into London to work as unpaid stewards during the diamond jubilee celebrations and told to sleep under London Bridge before working on the river pageant.

Up to 30 jobseekers and another 50 people on apprentice wages were taken to London by coach from Bristol, Bath and Plymouth as part of the government's Work Programme.

Two jobseekers, who did not want to be identified in case they lost their benefits, said they had to camp under London Bridge the night before the pageant. They told the Guardian they had to change into security gear in public, had no access to toilets for 24 hours, and were taken to a swampy campsite outside London after working a 14-hour shift in the pouring rain on the banks of the Thames on Sunday.

One young worker said she was on duty between London Bridge and Tower Bridge during the £12m river spectacle of a 1,000-boat flotilla and members of the Royal family sail by . She said that the security firm Close Protection UK, which won a stewarding contract for the jubilee events, gave her a plastic see-through poncho and a high-visibility jacket for protection against the rain.

Close Protection UK confirmed that it was using up to 30 unpaid staff and 50 apprentices, who were paid £2.80 an hour, for the three-day event in London. A spokesman said the unpaid work was a trial for paid roles at the Olympics, which it had also won a contract to staff. Unpaid staff were expected to work two days out of the three-day holiday.

The firm said it had spent considerable resources on training and equipment that stewards could keep and that the experience was voluntary and did not affect jobseekers keeping their benefits.

The woman said that people were picked up at Bristol at 11pm on Saturday and arrived in London at 3am on Sunday. "We all got off the coach and we were stranded on the side of the road for 20 minutes until they came back and told us all to follow them," she said. "We followed them under London Bridge and that's where they told us to camp out for the night … It was raining and freezing."

A 30-year-old steward told the Guardian that the conditions under the bridge were "cold and wet and we were told to get our head down [to sleep]". He said that it was impossible to pitch a tent because of the concrete floor.

The woman said they were woken at 5.30am and supplied with boots, combat trousers and polo shirts. She said: "They had told the ladies we were getting ready in a minibus around the corner and I went to the minibus and they had failed to open it so it was locked. I waited around to find someone to unlock it, and all of the other girls were coming down trying to get ready and no one was bothering to come down to unlock [it], so some of us, including me, were getting undressed in public in the freezing cold and rain." The men are understood to have changed under the bridge.

The female steward said that after the royal pageant, the group travelled by tube to a campsite in Theydon Bois, Essex, where some had to pitch their tents in the dark.

She said: "London was supposed to be a nice experience, but they left us in the rain. They couldn't give a crap … No one is supposed to be treated like that, [working] for free. I don't want to be treated where I have to sleep under a bridge and wait for food." The male steward said: "It was the worst experience I've ever had. I've had many a job, and many a bad job, but this one was the worst."

Both stewards said they were originally told they would be paid. But when they got to the coach on Saturday night, they said, they were told that the work would be unpaid and that if they did not accept it they would not be considered for well-paid work at the Olympics.

Molly Prince, managing director of Close Protection UK, said in a statement: "We take the welfare of our staff and apprentices very seriously indeed.

"The staff travelling to the jubilee are completing their training and being assessed on the job for NVQ Level 2 in spectator safety after having completed all the knowledge requirements in the classroom and some previous work experience. It is essential that they are assessed in a live work environment in order to complete their chosen qualifications.

"The nature of festival and event work is such that we often travel sleeping on coaches through the night with an early morning pre-event start – it is the nature of the business … It's hard work and not for the faint-hearted.

"We had staff travel from several locations and some arrived earlier than others at the meeting point, which I believe was London Bridge, which was why some had to hang around. This is an unfortunate set of circumstances but not lack of care on the part of CPUK."

The company said it had spent up to £220 on sponsoring security training licences for each participant and that boots and combat trousers cost more than £100.

The charity Tomorrow's People, which set up the placements at Close Protection under the work programme, said it would review the situation, but stressed that unpaid work was valuable and made people more employable. Tomorrow's People is one of eight youth charities that were supported in the Guardian and Observer's Christmas appeal last year.

Abi Levitt, director of development services at the charity, said: "We have been unable to verify the accuracy of the situation with either the people on work experience or the business concerned.

"We will undertake a review of the situation as matter of urgency. Tomorrow's People believes strongly in the value of work experience in helping people to build the skills, confidence and CV they need to get and keep a job and we have an exemplary record going back nearly 30 years for our work with the long-term unemployed."

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By:
Triple-Trigger
When: 05 Jun 12 16:20
God save the Queen.
By:
Triple-Trigger
When: 05 Jun 12 16:21
And this wonderful boot on the throat of the poor conservative government.
By:
FEN-TIGER
When: 05 Jun 12 16:21
Yep great stuff.
By:
hello :-)
When: 05 Jun 12 16:24
Did you have a hard day max
By:
Triple-Trigger
When: 05 Jun 12 16:24
Mr Tiger,i am surprised by your attitude.Didn't think you were one THOSE.
By:
Triple-Trigger
When: 05 Jun 12 16:25
of*
By:
Triple-Trigger
When: 05 Jun 12 16:25
Hello.your interest in everything i say is becoming somewhat disturbing.
By:
call it a day
When: 05 Jun 12 16:26
So, Tory idealogical warfare on the working class has quickly come to fruition.Serfs and Barons, circa 14th century,now reality in a land where we are all in it together.
By:
guinness2dear
When: 05 Jun 12 16:27
Only diffence now is the peasants live in concrete huts..
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 05 Jun 12 16:28
WALOFS.   LaughLaugh  HTH.
By:
Triple-Trigger
When: 05 Jun 12 16:28
Didn't take long did it.Still,one term government only.I wonder how much damage they can cause in the next 3 years.
By:
Ramjam_Cheese
When: 05 Jun 12 16:28
I pay an insane amount of tax on my earnings for working ruddy hard, having taken out a mortgage just on the right side of the recession, life is hard at present. Either way, a couple of days hard work for these people will do no harm whatsoever - in fact, it might make them come to realise the true value of the hand outs they've been no doubt rinsing the working nation of in recent times.

Good on the government and the benefits chappies in my opinion.
By:
hello :-)
When: 05 Jun 12 16:30
my sentiments exactly ramjam
By:
Triple-Trigger
When: 05 Jun 12 16:30
If you work,you should get paid.End of story.No jobs,but they amazingly appear when companies don't have to pay wages.Utter disgrace.
By:
ph.
When: 05 Jun 12 16:30
but and its a big but surely if the grafters said no can do after realising there would be no wages then benefits remain intact and the sheizer firm would have actually had to pay some other clowns £6 an hour?
By:
starfish and coffee
When: 05 Jun 12 16:30
All this so people can wave flags and cheer on the rich. Couldn't make it up.
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 05 Jun 12 16:31
very true  RAMJAM,  wonder why the op isnt intrested in the millions of people fiddling claiming disability allowance.
By:
hello :-)
When: 05 Jun 12 16:32
Because the OP is obviously one of them
By:
ph.
When: 05 Jun 12 16:33
Pay people when using them to gain experience,the Govt can make any deductions from benefits accordingly.These mercenary cheapskate 10 bob outfits shouldn't be allowed to use people as slave labour. Btw I don't claim anything from the state apart from 1 remaining lot of child benefit.
By:
Triple-Trigger
When: 05 Jun 12 16:34

Jun 5, 2012 -- 4:31PM, GLASGOWCALLING wrote:


very true

By:
1st time poster
When: 05 Jun 12 16:34
you really cant work out the stupidity of these firms,one day be it a pop concert,olympics etc their luck will run out and they,ll be a crush,incident etc where some members of the public are injured and the injury lawyers will be let free and carnage will insue for the sake of paying the minimum wage,lets hope that day arrives shortly
By:
Triple-Trigger
When: 05 Jun 12 16:34

Jun 5, 2012 -- 4:32PM, hello :-) wrote:


Because the OP is obviously one of them


Utter crap.

By:
Triple-Trigger
When: 05 Jun 12 16:35
I can care about others even if i doesn't directly affect me.Doubt you can.
By:
hello :-)
When: 05 Jun 12 16:36
Max getting worried his state funded lifestyle is about to be disturbed Laugh

A hard days work will make you a better person max
By:
Triple-Trigger
When: 05 Jun 12 16:36
Obsessive liar.
By:
Triple-Trigger
When: 05 Jun 12 16:38
Only 1% of disability claims are fraudulent,and many millions more benefits go unclaimed.Why don't some of you big gobs do some research before talking crap?
By:
Triple-Trigger
When: 05 Jun 12 16:41
I don't work in the traditional way i.e 9-5 and i don't claim benefits either.I make my money as a partner in a business and my betting.
By:
Triple-Trigger
When: 05 Jun 12 16:41
Like 90% of the shrewdies on here.
By:
ph.
When: 05 Jun 12 16:43
on saying that I don't think any single persons under 25 should be entitled to benefits for not working.Work in shi tty low paid conditions to gain work experience and show endeavour. Surely working in McD's for £200 a week should be encouraged more than sitting back and claiming a state pittance,housing benefit and council tax rebates? If you work and don't earn enough to cover accomodation then you should get Govt help.Those who refuse or shirk should get nish,zilch absolutely f*** all. Easy access to benefits only creates and maintains a social sub- class who go on generally to become the criminal underclass that allow the Police to stay in well paid,pensioned overated positions.
By:
Triple-Trigger
When: 05 Jun 12 16:43
Only a small one watchit.
By:
Triple-Trigger
When: 05 Jun 12 16:47
What does it say to the young unemployed when they are made to work 4 nothing?Remember back and think what you would have thought.
By:
hello :-)
When: 05 Jun 12 16:50
Triple-Trigger
05 Jun 12 16:41   

I don't work in the traditional way i.e 9-5 and i don't claim benefits either.I make my money as a partner in a business and my betting.

i do admit you a funny guy without realising LaughLaugh
By:
Ramjam_Cheese
When: 05 Jun 12 16:50
She said: "London was supposed to be a nice experience, but they left us in the rain. They couldn't give a crap … No one is supposed to be treated like that, [working] for free. I don't want to be treated where I have to sleep under a bridge and wait for food."

LMFAO - Nice experience? When I rock up to work tomorrow having had 4 days off, will I be expecting a nice experience? No, I'll be sat opposite the same nob head, at the same desk, looking out of the same window, with it peeing with rain outside, with a slow PC etc etc.

These people are complete cretins - note to those on benefits, work generally ain't fun unless you become a footballer or pop star...yes, sometimes it also rains in life, sometime I have to walk in the rain from my car to my place of work, unbelievable.

People on benefits, if you don't like it, pull your finger out and take advantage of free education/courses provided by the state and my taxes and do something with your lives.

For me, this kind of work should become mandatory after 12 months in any case...we are a soft touch and these types of initiatives should be seen as good CV experience for those taking part and also to those who didn't enjoy it, a lesson in the value of time, effort and money, the latter of which the working majority have had to forego a large proportion of to feed you and your families lives.
By:
Triple-Trigger
When: 05 Jun 12 16:52
Hello,are you calling me a liar.If you are PM  me your identity so i can sue you for defamation.
By:
Triple-Trigger
When: 05 Jun 12 16:53
Hello works 4 peanuts and is very bitter.
By:
Triple-Trigger
When: 05 Jun 12 16:54
Fed up with the lies and assumptions watchit.
By:
1st time poster
When: 05 Jun 12 16:54
this kind of work,by that you mean public safety work,suppose we,ll have to wait a while for it to spread to virgin pilots but hopefully we,ll get there, Wink
By:
hello :-)
When: 05 Jun 12 16:55
what sector is your buisness can i ask or will it take a while to think the right one up Laugh
By:
Ramjam_Cheese
When: 05 Jun 12 16:55
Triple trigger, in 2010/11 benefit fraud cost this country £1.2 billion...a not insignificant amount in anyone's terms.
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