what is happening to fallon as a rider

terry norman not getting him the decent rides anymore

QB

Must agree I'm avoiding him like the plague. Riding like a ten year old.

Laura is not helping him as well as one would of thought.


never seen him ride for captain bailey as much as i have this season since he was 24 or 25 years of age.

on $h!te horses!

Never as good as some people made out imop, certainly not in the same league as the really top jockeys down the years. Whenever any sportsman doesn't put what he's doing first he loses it immediately. Fallon hasn't put racing first in a long time.

Couldn´t believe the ride he gave Pintrada in the last at Haydock today. I know it was pulling hard early, but instead of getting him settled he let it pull its way to the front where it burned itself out.

bobby I have no time for the man but to say he was never any good is silly just look at his record in the derby, brilliant jockey at keeping a horse balanced and ready for a burst of speed at the end of the race but for me he was never the same after his fall at ascot, I think in his fallons case it may have something to do with karma, so he can expect alot of sh!t coming his way.

should have been a brilliant jockey at the very top for years,
but Fallon is Fallon, he is his own worst enemy.

^ just lucky to be on the best horse on the day and not mess it up.

trainers are using him   now to get there horses handicapped simple.

valuebetting --It's not -but what's the issue ?
All jockeys who ride in the Derby will have ridden around Epsom before in either 10 or 12f races . It's not rocket science -you see where it goes up , where it goes down , where it goes around , where the camber is etc.
There are other tracks that are similar as well -e.g. Lingfield and Brighton . Normal professionals in any field get to know the variables that can influence performance -golfers and courses , tennis players and courts etc.
In any case ,the track factor affects the horses more than the jockeys.

At Epsom I think a horse either handles the undulations or it doesn´t. Connections only find out on the day - but the jockey makes about 1% difference imo.

Hope Joseph doesn't try to do a Dancing Brave this year .

My opinion and theory here is based soley on what I've seen. I attend the Derby every year and I was a follower and fan of KF for many years.

From that, it seems to me that KF relies largely on an explosive, fast finish. If/when the horse cannot or doe not respond as he wants, then it's end of story; failure, out like a light etc.

Sometimes, as at Chester this year, KF does attempt to push on and make all, but, personally, I take that as a negative and viryually chuck my ticket away, when I see that.

I know nothing about racing cars, but I guess for the top drivers, the car either responds when they want it to, or not. It looks to me as if KF follows this idea. He may have picked it up in America.
Certainly, once he crosses the line he seems to switch off and brake immediately - even on winners.

Getting back to the Derby, several of the bigger -priced winners have finished with a surprising ( to me) zoom.
Last year's and Sir Percy, to name but two. That's the bit that counts, imo.

well said ima_mazed66.

Fallon is in the twilight of his career but let's not forget his brilliance.

Ima likes to avoid FACTS.........FACT........likes the written word........written by others..........hates FACTS written on here by some that know better.

FACT Ima or are you going to deny all?

How can he get himself motivated for some nonsense race at Folkestone or Beverley for example when he has had the glory days? I would never be put off backing him on a mount but it's hard to make an argument that he wasn't the force he once was.

Of course good horses won those races silvergreaser but good horses won them for every other jockey too who has won those same races, plus there were plenty of other good horses and jockeys behind Fallon when he was winning them and you can still be sure that some were good tactical rides or others that he won in close finish but the main point is you don't hear people calling Lester Piggott, Steve Cauthen or Pat Eddery average and never any good when they were winning some of those same races, do you?

That's also ignoring the fact that to even get on the quality of horses just to be riding in those kind of races or to have had the stable jockey jobs that he has, you have to have shown something ability wise and there are plenty of others jockeys out there who have not only not ridden as many Gr1 winners as Fallon all over the world but plenty more who aren't even deemed good enough to even ride in them let alone win any.

Derby winners and other glory days in any jockeys career are a very small part of it numbers wise and the likes of Folkstone and Beverley is the bread and butter stuff for all of them and that include Dettori, Hughes and Moore and in past season even more so for the likes of Hanagan and let's not forget Fallon still won a classic last season and went very close with a couple of 2nds too and only a few weeks ago was winning a $2million Gr1 race at Meydan and was set to ride one of the favourites in the 2000gns this season..

Let's face it though and I keep saying this but some people seem to have trouble giving credit where it's due if they don't like somebody and as I also keep saying, with many of the things posted about Fallon on here people have an agenda and any other jockey and it's not even an issue.