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Will use my ratings to convert into odds and lay/back what they suggest as value.
£300 Bank . Max Stake £9 per race . Up to 3 bets per race.
Purpose to test the ratings with a lot of small money bets, which is preferable to paper trading imo
Only doing Group Racing. Win Only
This is what my ratings came with for tommorow
So £9 Frankel@1.38
£300 Bank . Max Stake £9 per race . Up to 3 bets per race.
Purpose to test the ratings with a lot of small money bets, which is preferable to paper trading imo
Only doing Group Racing. Win Only
This is what my ratings came with for tommorow
| Lockinge | Rating | Price | |
| Frankel | 138 | 1.14 | |
| Excelebration | 127.5 | 13 | |
| Strong Suit | 123 | 30 | |
| Dubawi Gold | 113.5 | 170 | |
| Ransom Note | 111.5 | 258 | |
| Windsor Palace | 85 | 2056 | |
| Bullet Train | 85 | 2056 |
So £9 Frankel@1.38
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Frankel was 1.33 after due to NR
£8 St Nicholas Abbey@1.67
£6 Bonfire@6.4 & £2 Mickdaam@55 (unmatched)
| Coronation Cup | Rating | Price | |
| St Nicholas Abbey | 124 | 1.35 | |
| Beaten Up | 115 | 11.5 | |
| Masked Marvel | 114.5 | 12.5 | |
| Quest For Peace | 111.5 | 22 | |
| Red Cadeaux | 111.5 | 22 | |
| Robin Hood | 90 | 925 |
£8 St Nicholas Abbey@1.67
| The Derby | Rating | Price | |
| Camelot | 122 | 1.98 | |
| Bonfire | 120.5 | 2.54 | |
| Astrology | 110.5 | 28 | |
| Mickdaam | 109.5 | 33 | |
| Main Sequence | 106 | 57 | |
| Thought Worthy | 104.5 | 74 | |
| Rugged Cross | 95 | 480 | |
| Minimize Risk | 90 | 1160 | |
| Cavaliero | 90 | 1160 |
£6 Bonfire@6.4 & £2 Mickdaam@55 (unmatched)
| Prince Of Wales Stks | Rating | Price | |
| So You Think | 125.5 | 2.44 | |
| Planteur | 121.5 | 5.5 | |
| Carlton House | 120 | 7.6 | |
| Reliable Man | 119.5 | 8.6 | |
| Farhh | 117.0 | 16 | |
| Colombian | 113.5 | 34 | |
| City Style | 113 | 38 | |
| Sri Putra | 112 | 48 | |
| Wigmore Hall | 110.5 | 65 | |
| Big Blue Kitten | 105 | 174 |
£5 Planteur@16.5
£2 Colombian@70
£1 Sri Putra@170
| Robin Hood | 85 | 3500 |
I will revive this thread for the last couple of months of the season.
My ratings to odds method gives these prices for tomorrow
Dubai Future I had rated 106.5 but has a penalty.
£3 Constitution Hill @6.2
£2 Pride of Arras @8.2
£1 Dubai Future @44
My ratings to odds method gives these prices for tomorrow
| September Stks | Rating | Price | |
| Gethin | 114.5 | 2.92 | |
| Constitution Hill | 111.5 | 4.9 | |
| Pride Of Arras | 110 | 6.3 | |
| Tornado Alert | 109 | 7.5 | |
| Warrant Holder | 108 | 9 | |
| Dubai Future | 103.5 | 20 |
Dubai Future I had rated 106.5 but has a penalty.
£3 Constitution Hill @6.2
£2 Pride of Arras @8.2
£1 Dubai Future @44
wd, tobermory ! a tasty win there on Pride Of Arras ! faire playe to you and ur system
#props
,,,above mine so tis, yer rto method 
#nice1 :)
#props ,,,above mine so tis, yer rto method #nice1 :)
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| September Stks | Rating | Price | |
| Waardah | 110 | 5.1 | |
| Floresta | 108.5 | 6.5 | |
| Consent | 108.5 | 6.5 | |
| Danielle | 108 | 7 | |
| Fairy Glen | 106.5 | 9 | |
| Prizeland | 105.5 | 11 | |
| Cameo | 105.5 | 11 | |
| Nyra | 103 | 17 | |
| Ryka | 90 | 280 |
are you still using the same methodology tobes & do you mind sharing if you've carried on with this/upscaled?
Yes, Wonder
I just resumed it after 14 years! with whatever the bank was in 2012
What happened back then was that I had ratings for all the group horses but my pc bust and I never had the info backed up.
I was meaning to rebuild it but never got round to it.
I just resumed it after 14 years! with whatever the bank was in 2012
What happened back then was that I had ratings for all the group horses but my pc bust and I never had the info backed up.
I was meaning to rebuild it but never got round to it.
| Doncaster Cup | Rating | Price | |
| Caballo De Mar | 105* | 2.42 | |
| Beylerbeyi | 99 | 7 | |
| Winday | 98 | 8.4 | |
| Berkshire Sundance | 98 | 8.4 | |
| Epic Poet | 97 | 9.6 | |
| Ascending | 97 | 11.5 | |
| Peace Belle | 80 | 260 |
*is rated 110 but has penalty
£3 Berkshire Sundance @21
£2 Epic Poet @14.5
| St Leger | Rating | Price | |
| Christmas Day | 118 | 2.1 | |
| Pierre Bonard | 113 | 5.2 | |
| Enceladus | 112 | 6.2 | |
| Highwayman | 104 | 25 | |
| Alderman | 102.5 | 25 | |
| Golden Story | 103.5 | 34 | |
| Hateen | 100.5 | 50 | |
| Galiyan | 100 | 60 | |
| Amelia Earhart | 98 | 140 | |
| Rebel Rocker | 97 | 150 | |
| Action | 95 | 180 |
£6 Christmas Day@3.2
£1 Alderman@55
| Irish Champion | Rating | Price | |
| Constitution River | 120 | 3.9 | |
| Item | 119 | 4.6 | |
| Almaqam | 118.5 | 5 | |
| A Boy Named Susie | 112.5 | 14.5 | |
| Hawk Mountain | 112.5 | 14.5 | |
| Wimbledon Hawkeye | 112 | 15.5 | |
| Hotazhell | 112 | 15.5 | |
| Lambourn | 111 | 18.5 |
£2 Hawk Mountain @36
£1 Wimbledon Hawkeye @42
£1 Hotazhell@60
| Irish St Leger | Rating | Price | |
| Scandanavia | 118 | 2.5 | |
| Jan Brueghel | 116 | 3.6 | |
| Trustyourinstinct | 112.5 | 6.4 | |
| Queenstown | 107 | 18.5 | |
| Arabian Force | 105 | 23 | |
| Leinster | 103.5 | 30 | |
| Tennessee Stud | 103 | 34 |
thanks
£2 Aspect Island@25
£1 Azure Angel@44
£1 Shagraan@18
| World Trophy Stks | Rating | Price | |
| Starlust | 110.5 | 4.8 | |
| Redorange | 110.5 | 4.8 | |
| Aspect Island | 107 | 8.6 | |
| First Instinct | 105 | 12.5 | |
| Shagraan | 105 | 12.5 | |
| Azure Angel | 105 | 12.5 | |
| Diligent Harry | 104.5 | 13.5 | |
| Dickensian | 104.5 | 13.5 | |
| Naanas Sparkle | 101.5 | 22 | |
| Miss Yechance | 99 | 35 | |
| Hallo Spaceboy | 84.5 | 830 |
£2 Aspect Island@25
£1 Azure Angel@44
£1 Shagraan@18
| Princess Royal Stks | Rating | Price | |
| Inis Mor | 109.5 | 2.96 | |
| Coedana | 107 | 4.6 | |
| Without Prejudice | 104.5 | 7 | |
| Prizeland | 103.5 | 8.4 | |
| Francophone | 99.5 | 17 | |
| Sunshine Star | 97 | 25 | |
| Frances Ethel | 95.5 | 32 | |
| Club Class | 94 | 46 | |
| Summerson | 92.5 | 60 | |
| Venetia | 91 | 90 | |
| Ryka | 90 | 130 |
£3 Coedana@7.6
£1 Frances Ethel@48
£1 Club Class@120
| Joel Stakes | Rating | Price | |
| Talk Of New York | 116.5 | 2.06 | |
| Persica | 108.5 | 8.4 | |
| The Lost King | 108 | 9 | |
| Hankelow | 108 | 9 | |
| Audience | 107 | 11 | |
| Colori Forever | 105.5 | 13.5 | |
| Wild Desert | 95 | 140 |
£2 Hankelow@16.5
£1 Colori Forever@19.5
£1 Audience@32
How do you workout which ones to back per your ratings tob ?
Do u have some sort of pt to price ratio sir?
Do u have some sort of pt to price ratio sir?
Sep 25, 2026 -- 8:15AM, Kalaglow wrote:
Good start tobermory
Lucky to make any profit from those races. Normally I pick the bets near the off, and Coedana was so heavily backed she was no value on my ratings. But as I wasn't going to be around I bet in the morning when she was a big price. Then the other 5 I picked finished 9th & 10th of 10 and 5th,6th and 7th of 7!
Sep 25, 2026 -- 8:52AM, BULLET TOOTH TONY wrote:
How do you workout which ones to back per your ratings tob ? Do u have some sort of pt to price ratio sir?
I don't have a precise staking plan, just pick the ones with the biggest discrepancies and have bigger (£3!) bets on the ones in single figure odds.
Good luck tobermory, its good to read a thread about horse racing on this forum.
| Sun Chariot Stks | Rating | Price | |
| Blue Bolt | 119 | 2.24 | |
| City Of Memphis | 113.5 | 5.9 | |
| Moon Target | 111.5 | 8 | |
| Secret Of Life | 109 | 13 | |
| Calendar Girl | 108.5 | 14 | |
| Evolutionist | 107 | 18 | |
| Kon Tiki | 107 | 18 |
£3.54 (liability) Lay of Blue Bolt@1.38
£1 Moon Target@48
£1 Secret of Life@55
| Cumberland Lodge Stks | Rating | Price | |
| Royal Power | 109.5 | 2.76 | |
| Tenability | 108.5 | 3.25 | |
| Al Aasy | 104* | 7.2 | |
| Royal Playwright | 102 | 10 | |
| By The Book | 101.5 | 11 |
*My rating of Al Aasy is 109 but has 5lb penalty
£3 Royal Power@8.4
£1 Royal Playwright@19.5
| Arc de Triomphe | Rating | Price | |
| Daryz | 122.5 | 5.2 | |
| Kalpana | 122 | 5.7 | |
| Diamond Necklace | 118 | 11.5 | |
| Maltese Cross | 117.5 | 12.5 | |
| Meisho Taburu | 117 | 13.5 | |
| Benvenuto Cellini | 116.5 | 15 | |
| Minnie Hauk | 115.5 | 17.5 | |
| Thundering On | 115 | 19 | |
| Varandir | 114 | 23 | |
| Bay City Roller | 113 | 27 | |
| Friendly Soul | 112 | 32 | |
| Admire Terra | 112 | 32 | |
| Saddadd | 111.5 | 35 | |
| Chestnut Rocket | 108 | 65 | |
| Arrow Eagle | 107.5 | 70 | |
| Bright Light | 106.5 | 90 |
£2 Meisho Tabaru@48
£1 Admire Terre @210
£1 Chestnut Rocket@660
£1 Admire Terre @210
£1 Chestnut Rocket@660
£2 Meisho Tabaru@48
£1 Admire Terre @210
£1 Chestnut Rocket@660
£1 Admire Terre @210
£1 Chestnut Rocket@660
| Darley Stks | Rating | Price | |
| Humidity | 118 | 1.61 | |
| Haatem | 108.5 | 7.8 | |
| The Lost King | 107.5 | 9.4 | |
| Boiling Point | 106.5 | 11 | |
| High Stock | 103 | 20 |
£7 Humidity @4.03 (average)
only the 2YO form to go on for Humidity, which was solid Group 2, borderline G1, and the rest confirmed G3/Listed level
| Long Distance Cup | Rating | Price | |
| Caballo De Mar | 113 | 4.3 | |
| Highwayman | 110 | 7.2 | |
| Gregory | 110 | 7.2 | |
| Mount Atlas | 108.5 | 9.2 | |
| Opportunity | 108.5 | 9.2 | |
| Queenstown | 107 | 12 | |
| Daiquiri Bay | 105 | 17 | |
| Amiloc | 104.5 | 18.5 | |
| Quickthorn | 102.5 | 26 | |
| Amelia Earhart | 101 | 34 |
£3 @7.4 Caballo De Mar
£2 @25 Mount Atlas
£1 @190 Quickthorn
| Champion's Sprint | Rating | Price | |
| Almeraq | 116.5 | 4 | |
| Samangan | 110.5 | 11.5 | |
| Coppul | 110.5 | 11.5 | |
| Great Wish | 110 | 12.5 | |
| Division | 109.5 | 13.5 | |
| Marvelman | 109 | 15 | |
| Prince Of India | 108.5 | 16.5 | |
| Paborus | 108.5 | 16.5 | |
| Soul Love | 107 | 21 | |
| Power Blue | 106 | 25 | |
| Kind Of Blue | 106 | 25 | |
| Mitbaahy | 104 | 34 | |
| Jamess Delight | 104 | 34 | |
| Poatan | 102.5 | 46 | |
| Binaheer | 100 | 75 | |
| Jasour | 99 | 90 |
£2 Samangan@18.5
£1 Marvelman@26
£1 Jamess Delight@130
| Fillies & Mares | Rating | Price | |
| Kalpana | 120 | 2.4 | |
| Minnie Hauk | 114 | 6.8 | |
| Coedana | 109.5 | 15 | |
| Inis Mor | 109.5 | 15 | |
| Sparan Nua | 108 | 18 | |
| Danielle | 108.5 | 18 | |
| See The Fire | 107.5 | 22 | |
| Lilt | 107.5 | 22 | |
| Tajlina | 105.5 | 29 | |
| Symbol Of Majesty | 105 | 34 | |
| Believed | 105 | 34 | |
| Sugar Island | 95 | 220 |
£2 Inis Mor@44
£2 Coedana@55
£1 Symbol Of Majesty@60
| QE II | Rating | Price | |
| Gstaad | 121.5 | 3.45 | |
| Talk Of New York | 119.5 | 4.9 | |
| Rayif | 116.5 | 8.4 | |
| Ten Bob Tony | 116 | 9 | |
| Zeus Olympios | 115.5 | 9.8 | |
| More Thunder | 112 | 18 | |
| Zavateri | 111 | 21 | |
| Hawk Mountain | 109 | 30 | |
| Docklands | 106 | 55 | |
| Dancing Gemini | 102 | 150 | |
| Needle Match | 98 | 330 |
£2 Talk Of New York@5.7
£1 Hawk Mountain@40
| Champion Stakes | Rating | Price | |
| Ombudsman | 121.5 | 3.4 | |
| Calandagan | 120.5 | 3.9 | |
| Constitution River | 118.5 | 5.4 | |
| Almaqam | 117.5 | 6.4 | |
| Bay City Roller | 115 | 10 | |
| Devil's Advocate | 95 | 500 |
£5@12 Almaqam
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