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Maurice Chevalier, Hermione Gingold, The MGM Studio Orchestra, André Previn
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It was 1978, my first day as a racecourse bookmaker's workman, at my beloved Yarmouth.
I was working in the old East Ring in the centre of the course, (now defunct).
I was working for a bookmaker named Albert Wood from Strelley in Nottingham.
My first steps to becoming a racecourse bookmaker, hopefully.
After exchanging a few pleasantries, he began to explain what i had to do.
After a little while, he said,
"Go and get, the ices"
He did not seem to enamoured, when 10 minutes later, i came back with 3 cornets and a wafer!
Well, how the f*ck did i know, that 'the ices', were 'the prices'!
Sadly, it's all been downhill since and i now find myself, fronting the, "Anybody fancy a thick'un" joint!
Maurice Chevalier, Hermione Gingold, The MGM Studio Orchestra, André Previn
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It was 1978, my first day as a racecourse bookmaker's workman, at my beloved Yarmouth.
I was working in the old East Ring in the centre of the course, (now defunct).
I was working for a bookmaker named Albert Wood from Strelley in Nottingham.
My first steps to becoming a racecourse bookmaker, hopefully.
After exchanging a few pleasantries, he began to explain what i had to do.
After a little while, he said,
"Go and get, the ices"
He did not seem to enamoured, when 10 minutes later, i came back with 3 cornets and a wafer!
Well, how the f*ck did i know, that 'the ices', were 'the prices'!
Sadly, it's all been downhill since and i now find myself, fronting the, "Anybody fancy a thick'un" joint!
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The Only Way Is Up Skinto !! If you get fed up with your current situation have you ever considered trying your hand at being a tipster ? 
Carlisle in May early 1990's, I turned up in a nice new suit. It was freezing cold and it chucked it down all afternoon. The rep asked me where my coat was and I just shrugged my shoulders . . . .
A lesson learnt
A lesson learnt
skint you must have used a different language way up north at yarmouth, they were called the walls down souf.
Hi Barry,
I remember when you used to bet in Tattersalls at Yarmouth.
I would have been working for, 'Duggie Pye', Alan, at that time!
I remember when you used to bet in Tattersalls at Yarmouth.
I would have been working for, 'Duggie Pye', Alan, at that time!
the ice cream years ago from that little hut/shed thing at the bottom of the stairs away from the betting ring was excellent
I'm trying to place you skinto - how many firms have you worked for ? Do you come with good references ?
sounds as though they get rid of him or go out of business
not much hope for his present employer , then
not much hope for his present employer , then
Ahh memories - Skinto arrives for his first day at work, 'can anyone direct me to the Bronze Ring?'
When in the early 50s I starting clerking for Arthur Clive (The Gitter Yid) to a shilling
book if we took £20 to £30 a race outside we were doing o.k. happy days
book if we took £20 to £30 a race outside we were doing o.k. happy days
wee eck, you would be clerking at the same time as my father. He started back in the 30s though.
http://www.ourgreatyarmouth.org.uk/page_id__450_path__0p44p82p.aspx
Is that the famous mac?
Is that the famous mac?
skinto you are going back a bit,i remember Duggie Pye at yarmouth dogs must be 45 years ago
Racecourse Regular • May 9, 2012 2:09 PM BST
http://www.ourgreatyarmouth.org.uk/page_id__450_path__0p44p82p.aspx
Is that the famous mac?
Photo:Yarmouth Races - the bookie seems to be paying out for once!
That is in fact, 'yours truly', clerking for Albert Wood (Circa 1978).
I have a print of this photograph on my office desk!
How smart i looked back then, suit, shirt and tie, (Mac, nowhere to be seen)!
What the f*cking hell happened to me?
http://www.ourgreatyarmouth.org.uk/page_id__450_path__0p44p82p.aspx
Is that the famous mac?
Photo:Yarmouth Races - the bookie seems to be paying out for once!
That is in fact, 'yours truly', clerking for Albert Wood (Circa 1978).
I have a print of this photograph on my office desk!
How smart i looked back then, suit, shirt and tie, (Mac, nowhere to be seen)!
What the f*cking hell happened to me?
those trousers would look good on you now , well at least they would fit
i would need two pairs , one for each leg
i would need two pairs , one for each leg
often been asked these past few yrs what my logo on my mush refers to, once and for all i will clear the matter up. i have actually been advertising the said mans services "the weasel" !sadly upto now havn't had any takers since i've had him on the firm these past few yrs it's like carrying a 14lb penalty on my f*****g back!to top it up he must be the biggest f*****g JONAH god ever put breath into.anyway this last few yrs i feel i have done my bit for "help the aged" and it must be hightime sombody took the useless f****r off my hands.no signing on fee free to anyone who will take sadly he won't be able to give any incumbents a referance !!!!!!
No1 pitch looks like Capt Mee, I cannot make out the No2 Pitch
Racecourse Regular • May 9, 2012 2:09 PM BST
http://www.ourgreatyarmouth.org.uk/page_id__450_path__0p44p82p.aspx
Is that the famous mac?
Photo:Yarmouth Races - the bookie seems to be paying out for once!
That is in fact, 'yours truly', clerking for Albert Wood (Circa 1978).
I have a print of this photograph on my office desk!
How smart i looked back then, suit, shirt and tie, (Mac, nowhere to be seen)!
What the f*cking hell happened to me?
Racecourse Regular • May 9, 2012 2:09 PM BST
http://www.ourgreatyarmouth.org.uk/page_id__450_path__0p44p82p.aspx
Is that the famous mac?
Photo:Yarmouth Races - the bookie seems to be paying out for once!
That is in fact, 'yours truly', clerking for Albert Wood (Circa 1978).
I have a print of this photograph on my office desk!
How smart i looked back then, suit, shirt and tie, (Mac, nowhere to be seen)!
What the f*cking hell happened to me?
It all went wrong when Weasel damaged the barrow one Cheltenham meeting, I am not sure what he did as it was the sturdiest barrow I had ever seen
Racecourse Regular • May 9, 2012 9:19 PM BST
No1 pitch looks like Capt Mee, I cannot make out the No2 Pitch
If you look closely, there are only two pitches in the photograph!
Captain Mee and Albert Wood!
No1 pitch looks like Capt Mee, I cannot make out the No2 Pitch
If you look closely, there are only two pitches in the photograph!
Captain Mee and Albert Wood!
Also possibly betting north of the numbers board, was that forum great, adge!
Racecourse Regular • May 9, 2012 9:21 PM BST
It all went wrong when Weasel damaged the barrow one Cheltenham meeting, I am not sure what he did as it was the sturdiest barrow I had ever seen
Damaged it, smashed it to f*cking smithereens more like!
It all went wrong when Weasel damaged the barrow one Cheltenham meeting, I am not sure what he did as it was the sturdiest barrow I had ever seen
Damaged it, smashed it to f*cking smithereens more like!
true , norfolk mafia , i would be there. started betting in that ring in 1973 and rarely missed a meeting.
i've had my magnifying glass on the photo's but seem absent
i've had my magnifying glass on the photo's but seem absent
Still cant place this skinto fella - even looking at that sepia photo !! Does anybody have a description that would help ? If he's been going to Yarmouth since 1973 shouldn't the course name a race after him ? How about The Keep It Under Your Hat/Mac Selling Stakes ?
Remember poor old Alan Pye going skint one night at yarmouth dogs and couldnt pay out Vernon Baker, so vernon takes over his pitch for a few meetings, at the end of the meeting walks out with 4 dogs and Alans 'Duggie pye' bookies bag in the other, made me giggle for years, god bless them
wouldnt see that nowadays
wouldnt see that nowadays
adge • May 9, 2012 1:50 PM BST
sounds as though they get rid of him or go out of business
not much hope for his present employer , then
Fashion Fever • May 9, 2012 11:07 PM BST
Remember poor old Alan Pye going skint one night at yarmouth dogs and couldnt pay out Vernon Baker, so vernon takes over his pitch for a few meetings, at the end of the meeting walks out with 4 dogs and Alans 'Duggie pye' bookies bag in the other, made me giggle for years, god bless them
wouldnt see that nowadays
adge,
Are you psychic?
sounds as though they get rid of him or go out of business
not much hope for his present employer , then
Fashion Fever • May 9, 2012 11:07 PM BST
Remember poor old Alan Pye going skint one night at yarmouth dogs and couldnt pay out Vernon Baker, so vernon takes over his pitch for a few meetings, at the end of the meeting walks out with 4 dogs and Alans 'Duggie pye' bookies bag in the other, made me giggle for years, god bless them
wouldnt see that nowadays
adge,
Are you psychic?
TheCoat • May 10, 2012 10:44 AM BST,
Very many thanks, for posting the above!
Very many thanks, for posting the above!
Got plenty of MEE's but no Capt Mee, and I'm a bit young to have any Albert Woods.
Alan Pye, who bet under 'Duggie Pye' (His Father), was a great bookmaker. The best caller of a bet and i have clerked for many. There was no, 13/8 to £70 with Alan, it was, (as you know, 113 3/4 to 70). He was a charming, very intelligent man. When going to Newmarket, we would pick him up in Norwich and he would always sit in the back of the car with, The Times Crossword. I can't remember too many times, (if you will excuse the pun), when it wasn't completed by the time we reached our destination!
Interesting to hear that the Hod was carried off from Yarmouth Dogs, it might have been the same one that was sold on ebay recently, not sure how much it went for in the end...
Interesting to hear that the Hod was carried off from Yarmouth Dogs, it might have been the same one that was sold on ebay recently, not sure how much it went for in the end...
Racecourse Regular,
Was there two of them?
Look forward to seeing you, this evening, at my beloved Yarmouth!
Was there two of them?
Look forward to seeing you, this evening, at my beloved Yarmouth!
interesting to see the duggie pye betting tickets have a home address on them.
would not be a safe idea nowadays
i've still got 8000 of them but mine have the address of the northern bpa as a contact
would not be a safe idea nowadays
i've still got 8000 of them but mine have the address of the northern bpa as a contact
When do you intend using them adge ? A true Yorkshireman not throwing anything away !! As for skinto - why are you not helping me to find out who you are ? What one word best describes you ? 'Suave' 'sophisticated' 'debonair' 'bon viveur ( dammit thts two ) ' 'magnanimous' 'entrepreneurial' ?
As for Alan Pye and crosswords did he ever get stuck on 'Four letters, rhymes with 'twit' and lies at the bottom of a budgie's cage ? ' Perhaps some posters on here know the answer ?
As for Alan Pye and crosswords did he ever get stuck on 'Four letters, rhymes with 'twit' and lies at the bottom of a budgie's cage ? ' Perhaps some posters on here know the answer ?
democrat,
As for Alan Pye and crosswords did he ever get stuck on 'Four letters, rhymes with 'twit' and lies at the bottom of a budgie's cage ? ' Perhaps some posters on here know the answer ?
Grit?
As for Alan Pye and crosswords did he ever get stuck on 'Four letters, rhymes with 'twit' and lies at the bottom of a budgie's cage ? ' Perhaps some posters on here know the answer ?
Grit?
micheal • May 10, 2012 1:20 PM BST
Have you ever thought of writing a book skinto
Have you never read, Skinto's best selling novel, 'How the f*ck did i wind up working for Ed Thompson'
It's hilarious!
Have you ever thought of writing a book skinto
Have you never read, Skinto's best selling novel, 'How the f*ck did i wind up working for Ed Thompson'
It's hilarious!
Good luck to all at this evening's meeting.
A couple of points:
I bid for Alan's hod (unsuccessfully) - went for somewhere close to £300.
My interest in the game initiated by my father who was a runner for Duggie Pye. Commission from Duggie and from successful punters set him up in business. Most memorable day he told me about was when Black Tarquin won the St Leger in 1948 - he earned about £40 that day.
A couple of points:
I bid for Alan's hod (unsuccessfully) - went for somewhere close to £300.
My interest in the game initiated by my father who was a runner for Duggie Pye. Commission from Duggie and from successful punters set him up in business. Most memorable day he told me about was when Black Tarquin won the St Leger in 1948 - he earned about £40 that day.
sparrow • May 10, 2012 2:17 PM BST
£40 in 1948 equates to £1230 today.
Very many thanks!
Wow!
£40 in 1948 equates to £1230 today.
Very many thanks!
Wow!
Do you get that equivalent from your current employer skinto ? Or a lot more ?
Fashion Fever, I used a historic inflation calculator from the Thisismoney website.
democrat,
Why aren't you on your way, to the gold mine?
Why aren't you on your way, to the gold mine?
Gold mine ? Where's that ? Oh yes - unfortunately Chester ring is waterlogged and hence closed. Mind you even in that condition it'd be better than GY !!!
The 'birth' of a forum leg end!
Sorry, that should read legend!
Sorry, that should read legend!
alan pye had a few holiday flats on an annexe to his home very near the river bure.he stood at yarmouth dogs a flap at the time and when i turned up on holiday with a retired greyhound he took an interest just in case it was going to run at yarmouth.evidently a lot of families brought their racing dogs with them and had a few races at the flap.
Skinto - do you still have the personalised suitcase ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzoG0iY6naM
Skinto - Why you always complaining bout the crowds at Yarmouth? Packed out in the above video.....
Skinto - Why you always complaining bout the crowds at Yarmouth? Packed out in the above video.....
democrat • January 20, 2014 3:54 PM GMT
Skinto - do you still have the personalised suitcase ?
I do indeed and no, you can't buy it off me!
Skinto - do you still have the personalised suitcase ?
I do indeed and no, you can't buy it off me!
If I remember rightly - it's of the 'expanding' type ? 
As a matter of interest skinto how many years did it take you to graduate from your first day to the best job in racing ?
democrat shudn't you be on the agt site with your chequebook out? r.e the best job in racing democrat not sure i can take the weasel on in future do you want him back ?reading some of the utter drivel and at times absolute insane statements i truly believe he needs assessing at the facility in rampton.i think he has spent so much time on here lately he has completely lost the plot and thus rendered himself unemployable
I might have been the 1st person to use a 2 way radio Abt 1974 @ Kempton..............They were on me like a flash.............wanted to know wot I was doing. who I worked for...............dident seem to know wot to do & eventually left me alone
I could send "tick tack".............bit I couldent read it........................they soon ignore yer
I could send "tick tack".............bit I couldent read it........................they soon ignore yer
Ah yes mange - happy days being approached by the heavies saying we were using the same channel as the ambulance service ! Already well out of my price range Flash - when you get the kite from AGT will it be drinks all round ? As for your kind offer of your most valuable staff asset - you would be lost without him ! I hope you've got him well insured.
i know when people get to advancing yrs they often suffer from dementia/alzheimers and alike and it is very very sad.however your ex emloyee i fear has somthing much worse i feel he is a rampton case and nothing less will do cuckoos nest job. as for insurance what could i reasonably insured him for 30 bob ?not worth anymore i think his nxt outing is almost certain to be with you in june at epsom he will treat you to badge out of his fat pension he has contributed into so much down the yrs
What a result Flash - well done !!! Mine's a pint and don't forget a large coke for your old mate !!!
I remember when I was a teenager, I used to Clerk at Romford Dogs for £12 a night. Barry Dennis asked me to clerk for him one Friday in the Silver Ring at The July Course. He done his money but paid me a Bullseye ... a proper Gent, always has been and always will be for me. I thank you
Are U the oldest poster on ere ......................lump ?
lumponlarge • January 21, 2014 8:16 PM GMT
.....He done his money but paid me a Bullseye.....
F*ck working for sweets!
.....He done his money but paid me a Bullseye.....
F*ck working for sweets!
are you the proud new owner of chelt tatts democrat ?yes the drinks are on me and the only drink i wud give weasel wud hav anthrax in it
Fink weve still misted it................I mean 30 jun 00.......?
Ive never seen an "older " poster
Ive never seen an "older " poster
mange ... aaah i'm with you now .... you know i'd never realised just how rare a "2000" date is ... just shows I've been compulsive for far too long
Lumpon,
Did you ever work in a Minicab Office in seven kings?
Did you ever work in a Minicab Office in seven kings?
Talking about going for the ices
My pal had one in the book years ago at CARTMEL,asked him to go and get the betting came running back to say the fav had just touched
A HALF
TWO ON
he later sent him to back one back.
HE CAME BACK WITH A TOTE TICKET
My pal had one in the book years ago at CARTMEL,asked him to go and get the betting came running back to say the fav had just touched
A HALF
TWO ON
he later sent him to back one back.
HE CAME BACK WITH A TOTE TICKET
No,lumpon but,someone who worked for BD certainly did.
I think his name was Jim (probably dead by now).
I think his name was Jim (probably dead by now).
Jim was much older than me ... even older than BD ..... he showed me betting slips from the Dagenham Coup ... used to be the floor man ... and yes I think he is dead.
racingstar, he was indeed a "Character" and a very nice man also
lumponlarge
its a good effort only 152 replies since 2,000,i have also been here since 2,000 but have not had the restraint you have shown and far to often post on threads that don't need posting on.
its a good effort only 152 replies since 2,000,i have also been here since 2,000 but have not had the restraint you have shown and far to often post on threads that don't need posting on.
foxy, ive gone a bit made replying tonight, but Im a reader rather than a participator normally.
Been out Flash hence my tardy reply - No, as I said before far too pricey for me ! I trust the drink will be purchased in a hostelry of some repute !
In memory of former on course bookmaker Capt Mee (Sam Cutts) who has sadly passed away!
R.I.P. Sam!
R.I.P. Sam!
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