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halcyon days
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Report halcyon days April 29, 2012 7:09 PM BST
Shirley the staffs safety takes precedent over group profits !  ??
Report razmos April 29, 2012 7:17 PM BST
if they wear a Lyle & Scott V necked sweater
with colour co-ordinated "slacks" they will be safe - 5* NAP.
Report halcyon days April 29, 2012 7:32 PM BST
.. dun know about that m8, you seem to attract people who shall we say 'bat for the other side'       Laugh
Report halcyon days April 29, 2012 7:33 PM BST
... so they're allready tooled up !!!     Laugh
Report halcyon days April 29, 2012 7:34 PM BST
... wiv their putter inners !!   Laugh
Report saddo April 29, 2012 7:53 PM BST
Gayers fred ffs! REPORTED
Report MR G April 29, 2012 8:06 PM BST
I never have much sympathy for the big bookmakers but their staff hardly help themselves when every night they take turns to go shopping while the other holds the fort.

If they are so concerned for their own safety (or that of their colleagues) surely they would make sure that there was always two in the shop.

It's obviously not about safety and more an opportunity for them (or the trade unions) to have a pop at their employers.
Report Slippy Blue April 29, 2012 8:15 PM BST
A busy Ladcrokes shop that my mate manages opens at 8.00am, closes at 10.00pm. He will have a cashier from 1.00pm til 7.00pm if he is lucky. A 14 hour working day plus whatever time it takes to open and close so add another 45 minutes or so and he has a cashier for 6 hours the rest of the time he is on his own.
Report homefortea April 29, 2012 8:15 PM BST
Mr G you make a salient point.However there is a difference between the cashier nipping out for a large brandy and a loaf of bread, and being single manned for five hours in Winter and locking up alone....
Report Racecourse Regular April 29, 2012 8:21 PM BST
laddies in particular don;t want counter business so single manning is just part of the strategy they are employing from above in conjunction with never being top price any horse at any race meeting..... they have simply given up on the over the counter business and single manning complements this niceley
Report MR G April 29, 2012 8:21 PM BST
homefortea - fair point (and Slippy also makes a very fair point) but it's not always "a large brandy and a loaf of bread", many do it for more than an hour at a time and are not in the least worried about safety.

They can't have it both ways.
Report homefortea April 29, 2012 8:25 PM BST
Mr G was in the game a while ago and moved to an internet firm on startup because I was not prepared to sit there on my own at night.I wouldn't mind but the shop even in 2000 took 50k a week in Summer with no FOBTs.....
Report Foetus April 29, 2012 8:29 PM BST
I don't know if or when the law changed, but I could have sworn that in the 90's, it was illegal to employ only one person in a bookies Confused
Report MR G April 29, 2012 8:34 PM BST
homefortea - I would like 10% of what they take out of the FOBT's of the shop you worked in now.

However, I fail to see what your career has to do with the points I made unless you are just saying that you were never prepared to work on your jacks.

The fact remains that the same staff who are screaming to their unions about single manning are taking turns with their pals to nip out whenever possible.

I can see both sides but can't help thinking the issue just gives an opportunity for low paid workers to have a pop at their employers (who are getting fortunes from FOBT's) because they can.
Report barry dennis April 29, 2012 8:35 PM BST
if the staff dont like sitting reading abook or watchingTV for 4 hours,and getting paid for it, simple, get another job
Report homefortea April 29, 2012 8:39 PM BST
Mr G the point that I was trying to make is that it is easier to work on your own when with a simple phone call you can have backup...

I never want to sit in a busy betting shop alone at 6 pm and look at the clock and realise that I am there until 9.30 on my tod.And now it is worse with some shops opening until Midnight...
Report homefortea April 29, 2012 8:43 PM BST
barry dennis..the Bookmaking Worlds worst whinger and the only person ever to be "let go" by C4.Post up some decent each-way terms on track and put a smile on the face of your staff and I may just take some money off you.....
Report MR G April 29, 2012 8:43 PM BST
Fair point homefortea.

I never knew shops were opening until midnight and I didn't even realise they were allowed to.

Obviously you know the game and they must be doing so but where are they doing this ?
Report barry dennis April 29, 2012 8:46 PM BST
hmt didnt know anonymous people were allowed out on their own, let alone bet.
Report Slippy Blue April 29, 2012 8:47 PM BST
High risk shops will have 2 at times with some firms, to be fair to C orals they will have 2 to open and some of their shops if the manager has nobody to work with him after 6pm he can close the doors. Stay there til close just in case they can get a relief cashier but if not nobody is allowed in. Ladbrokes now don't even want managers, they call them "cluster managers". One person looks after 6 or 7 shops so they only have to pay a cashier wages to open and close. The fact that many of them wouldn't know a cricket bet from an NFL bet doesn't seem to matter in the great scheme of things.

I put a price on a slip in a Laddies shop, some bint started barking at me saying I'm not supposed to put my own price on.
I said it doesn't matter what the price is, just put whatever it says when you translate at the time. Not happy with that she was moaning.

So, I then give her a 12 bet acca, horses, dogs, rugby, cricket, baseball, darts, the boat race, you name it I put every sport in on a £2 acca.

"Put the prices on there for me love". She didn't know where to start, not a clue what to look for.

"Now that is why I put my own price on love, between you and me I actually know what I'm doing". Mischief
Report barry dennis April 29, 2012 8:48 PM BST
why change the point of the thread just to talk nonsense
Report homefortea April 29, 2012 8:49 PM BST
You are right there Barry..Next time post under one of your alias'......
Report RonaldinhoRAT April 29, 2012 8:51 PM BST
So, I then give her a 12 bet acca,

cruel..Laugh
Report MR G April 29, 2012 8:53 PM BST
Barry - I do agree that the there was absolutely no need to change the point of the thread.

However, I fail to see what the anonymity of posters has to do with the thread.

I do agree with you re the betting shop workers.
Report MR G April 29, 2012 8:55 PM BST
Not sure what that has to do with single manning Slippy but how true Silly
Report RonaldinhoRAT April 29, 2012 8:56 PM BST
screaming to their unions

bit emotive mrg, do they have a union?, do they have any voice at all? do they not just get on with what they're told to do?
Report barry dennis April 29, 2012 9:03 PM BST
Ronald. "get on with what they're told to do" they would have agreed terms of employment when appointed
Report RonaldinhoRAT April 29, 2012 9:12 PM BST
terms of employment

Laughfunny idea, just give em new terms of employment, if they don't sign do not re new contract, simple.
Report Slippy Blue April 29, 2012 9:20 PM BST
Dennis have you sorted your Hampsteads out yet? Last time I saw you on course they were an absolute disgrace.
Report THIS-IS-GETTING-REDICKULASS April 29, 2012 9:36 PM BST
Ronald. "get on with what they're told to do" they would have agreed terms of employment when appointed



As in what ralphy boy tells you what to do hey?????
Report homefortea April 29, 2012 9:49 PM BST
Sorry Mr G...pure greed...
Report the dealer April 29, 2012 10:02 PM BST
is it any different from a barman working in a pub alone till twelve, a person working in a garage at night, a person working in a corner shop, it happens everwhere does it not?
i personally dont think it is right but is it right to have a go at bookmakers, when it is a common used practise elsewhere.
Report halcyon days April 30, 2012 8:57 AM BST
^ the dealer,


good morning. The point being that ''felons'' have 'cased' the joint and know that Johnny Big B ollox ( lots of cash in the shop) has done his conkers ! Safety in numbers I'd say?...



Mr G,


good morning. You get the prize for making the most riduculous sweeping statement I've ever read on here !
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