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WAINTHROP
27 Apr 12 14:38
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Wouldnt it be a good idea if all customers who had there bet365 closed or restricted to pennies turned upto Sandown  tomorrow with a red card. Written on these cards bet365 close winning accounts and  will decline bets of a few pounds. And then show them in the winners enclosure when the winning horses come in. Would deserve the bookies right.
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Report pete_de April 29, 2012 8:40 PM BST
come on grim. tell banks to let you know when he is coming and you will get the kettle on
Report GT-MOLE April 29, 2012 8:41 PM BST
Why the continued debate anyway........the simple fact is that bookmakers are NOT bookmakers in the original sense.

Accountants pure and simple,the vast majority even have the tissue done for them by the exchange.Their shops are no more than a front for mini casino operations.......no problems with that.....good business.

It is the misuse of the term bookmaker that gets most peoples goat I suspect........Trades Description abuse if ever there was one.
Report Banned_Banks April 29, 2012 8:53 PM BST
O yes thats right i forgot, it is just you hobby(pre employment related ban)to constantly come on here in support of everything bookmakers do and say and to know every fact and statistic that supports bookmakers arguments.Also it is just a coincidence that the majority of what you post seems to come straight out of the bookmakers PR and disinformation departments.

No Banks i have learnt jn life to look at the evidence rather than take the word of scoundrels.


Toronto44 I wasn't banned. The username is tongue in cheek. You just continue on your merry way spouting nonsense. It is like the Salem witch trials with you. Evidence is irrelevant to you because it is inconvenient.

Unlike you I have a very rewarding career completely unrelated to betting and bookmaking that allows me to invest plenty into my hobby. In the last month or so I have been to Kelso, Aintree, Plumpton, Wincanton, Ffos Las and Warwick. I doubt you have even been to 6 tracks in your lifetime.

Perhaps if you got out and about you would understand a little more about things.
Report homefortea April 29, 2012 8:57 PM BST
Banks..you can travel..alone ?...
Report toronto44 April 29, 2012 8:59 PM BST
Thats right so why should they be allowed to say the opposite in the media and on here.If they want to operate this way OK but why should they be allowed to get the benefit of trading in an unscrupulous way and at the same time get all the publicity saying they operate in a fair way.

G have followed you and had a nice bet on Hawkins at 48 before this match with Stevenson,looking good so far.Fingers crossed for Higginson
Report toronto44 April 29, 2012 9:11 PM BST
Banks i really do have  a rewarding career outside racing and while you have been to the likes of exotic Plumpton and ffos i have been to Laos,Thailand,Turkey,Bulgaria and Spain recently.Back off to Thailand and Laos on Sunday.I find you get a more rounded view of life when you travel to places other than racetracks Banks,mind you i will be going racing on the Thai/Laos border Sat weekHappy.
Report GT-MOLE April 29, 2012 9:16 PM BST
Oh dear toronto..........I fear you will suffer with that admission.ShockedWhoops
Report homefortea April 29, 2012 9:20 PM BST
toronto..when in Thailand make sure that you do him/her each-way !!
Report THIS-IS-GETTING-REDICKULASS April 29, 2012 9:21 PM BST
Oive been to kettering and peterboro this week.Happy

Higgy and jones are both fooking u s 44 but yep hawkings doing well had a tiny bit at a huge price then a top up at 48Cool
Report Banned_Banks April 29, 2012 9:23 PM BST
toronto44 I don't wish to get into travel one upmanship as we are talking about the racing and betting world but suffice to say I too have been all over the world and not just on the Gary Glitter trail you appear to favour however I don't see how that is relevant to this discussion.

In fact you bringing overseas travel into this merely confirms my view that you have little experience of racing/betting in UK.
Report GT-MOLE April 29, 2012 9:24 PM BST
Grimmy WTF is happening back there?

Has there been a mass break out or a fukcing amnesty or something,has the theft rate of laptops suddenly spiked?

Never seen so many nutters on here ever.........I thought we were bad.ShockedScaredCrazy
Report THIS-IS-GETTING-REDICKULASS April 29, 2012 9:27 PM BST
Sunday mate, lot of them home on weekend leave, should be safe come tomoro . . . CrazyWink

Paddy zorro and laz must have a tunnel. . . . ref colditzHappy
Report Send.in.the.clowns April 29, 2012 9:30 PM BST
These threads make me laugh, 365 have the game by the b0llox and were the first firm to realise that the best way to make it pay was only to play utter mugs.

The other caught up eventually.

Everyone knows it, good punters get around it- arbers and timewasters keep moaning.
Report THIS-IS-GETTING-REDICKULASS April 29, 2012 9:32 PM BST
apt name i m o.
Report THIS-IS-GETTING-REDICKULASS April 29, 2012 9:32 PM BST
apt name i m o.
Report Banned_Banks April 29, 2012 9:34 PM BST
We seem to be going round in circles here. Why don't we just have one massive scrap and settle things once and for all?

I'm up for it but I have to warn you that I'm quite handy.
Report homefortea April 29, 2012 9:36 PM BST
sendintheclowns...I said that four hours ago.Have had numerous computers/ip's/identities etc and still they close me down.You must be super smart.....
Report GT-MOLE April 29, 2012 9:36 PM BST
Sono Pericolso.hthWink
Report THIS-IS-GETTING-REDICKULASS April 29, 2012 9:39 PM BST
BANKS IM 8 STONE SOAKING WET, LEFT HOOK LIKE A POWDER PUFF AND AM VERY SHORT SIGHTED Cool. . . .

WOULD BE LIKE ME V LADDIES ODDS COPILER . . . ONE SIDED.
Report THIS-IS-GETTING-REDICKULASS April 29, 2012 9:42 PM BST
BUT I COULD SEND MY MAN . . . ABA SCHOOLBOYS HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONMischief . . . AND I AINT JOKEING EITHERAngry
Report homefortea April 29, 2012 9:42 PM BST
banned-banks..I doubt that you could punch your way out of a paper bag.You seem to have been on the fine wine again Bon Viveur and who can blame you - as a punter who prefers the delights of a muddy field to the fleshpots of Thailand....
Report GT-MOLE April 29, 2012 9:44 PM BST
Isnt it rich
Isnt it Khwear
Losing my timing this late
in my career?
And where are the clowns?
There ought to be clowns
Well maybe next year.

Last verse........courtesy of Karl Krebs.

He got his wish.........1.01 he never imagined this forum and Laz and Co.LaughWink

TOTP 2012..............Presented by Peter Saville......danced to by Laz and Co.Laugh
Report homefortea April 29, 2012 9:46 PM BST
Hang on fenman..he must weigh about 8 stone.....
Report THIS-IS-GETTING-REDICKULASS April 29, 2012 9:48 PM BST
BANKS BEEN ON THE ABBOT ALE I M O.Happy
Report toronto44 April 29, 2012 9:49 PM BST
But Banks it was you who started the travel one upmanship,followed by recommending me to get out more in order to understand the world a bit more.Now you dont want to play this game anymore.

As for you sick reference to the Garry Glitter trail.Again you show remarkable ignorance for a man with your education.Gary Glitter was a sick paedophile who abused children in Cambodia not Laos or Thailand.It is typical of people who have led a very narrow and blinkered life to jump on every tired steriotype of countries they know nothing about.Yes paid for sex is available in Thailand in certain areas dedicated to sex tourists ie Pattaya,Patong and small areas in Bangkok.But when you get away from these areas Thais are remarkably conservative and decent.Even more so in Laos but no Banks you go along with your ignorant twisted fantasies about paedophiles.Maybe that saya a lot about you,that it is the first thing that comes into your head when Thailand is mentioned.

My work is about helping people not stealing from and exploiting them as your paymasters do.
Report GT-MOLE April 29, 2012 9:51 PM BST
Bishops Finger imo grimmy.Laugh
Report Banned_Banks April 29, 2012 9:51 PM BST
banned-banks..I doubt that you could punch your way out of a paper bag.You seem to have been on the fine wine again Bon Viveur and who can blame you - as a punter who prefers the delights of a muddy field to the fleshpots of Thailand....


Homefortea you appear to have caught the toronto44 disease of drawing incorrect conclusions. Most bizarre.
Report THIS-IS-GETTING-REDICKULASS April 29, 2012 9:51 PM BST
TAKE THAT BANKSDevil . . . FOOK YOUR GOOD 44Happy
Report THIS-IS-GETTING-REDICKULASS April 29, 2012 9:53 PM BST
Hugh kneads laxatives when bishops finger and spitfire are on the shelvesCryCry
Report homefortea April 29, 2012 9:53 PM BST
Bon Viveur..it is like you have never been away..I have stirred you into action.....

Welcome back.
Report Banned_Banks April 29, 2012 9:57 PM BST
But Banks it was you who started the travel one upmanship,followed by recommending me to get out more in order to understand the world a bit more.Now you dont want to play this game anymore.

As for you sick reference to the Garry Glitter trail.Again you show remarkable ignorance for a man with your education.Gary Glitter was a sick paedophile who abused children in Cambodia not Laos or Thailand.It is typical of people who have led a very narrow and blinkered life to jump on every tired steriotype of countries they know nothing about.Yes paid for sex is available in Thailand in certain areas dedicated to sex tourists ie Pattaya,Patong and small areas in Bangkok.But when you get away from these areas Thais are remarkably conservative and decent.Even more so in Laos but no Banks you go along with your ignorant twisted fantasies about paedophiles.Maybe that saya a lot about you,that it is the first thing that comes into your head when Thailand is mentioned.

My work is about helping people not stealing from and exploiting them as your paymasters do.


Toronto44 yet again your lack of intelligence fails you. To say that it is easy to play you would be an understatement.

To put the record straight I have travelled extensively and have lived in India, Australia, Russia, US and Japan for extensive periods of time. Add to that leisure travel to pretty much all corners of the globe and yes I do feel I have a pretty broad outlook on life.

Your final comment is your usual incorrect mantra. You have no idea how I make a living but suffice to say that the nearest I get to exploiting people is making you look like a fool on here for which I draw no salary.
Report GT-MOLE April 29, 2012 10:00 PM BST
Eau deer...........a full.........Broadside.Laugh
Report toronto44 April 29, 2012 10:02 PM BST
Professional communicator/spin artist trick no 36....when you are humiliated and exposed for the immoral lightweight you are,pretend you were just trying to wind up the person who has slapped you down....
Report homefortea April 29, 2012 10:11 PM BST
Come on bon viveur you are now stretching reality a bit far.I believed it when you said that you scored the winning goal in the 1986 FA Cup Final,was the second man on the Moon and stepped aside when Tony Blair became PM, but to draw no salary for making a fool of people on here...You Sir are a fantasist.....
Report Banned_Banks April 29, 2012 10:14 PM BST
You are beyond help if you think that everyone with a half decent education is a professional communicator.

You are an angry little man who is frustrated that his pathetic unfounded rants can't be substantiated and therefore resorts to childish accusations to try and get himself out of the hole he continually digs.

You deperately need an exit strategy but can't find one.

It's all a bit sad really.

Anyway it's nice to have been back in action again for a couple of hours. We must catch up again sometime.

Be lucky.
Report corbiewood April 29, 2012 10:14 PM BST
Toronto,

Are you actually putting on this persona for a dare or a bet ? You ve just ignore any questions
Or points raised by me then like a schoolboy just spun it around, but not even in a clever well constructed manner

Fingers in your ears not listening

We need to address what you actually believe in and it would be swell if you actually countered my points I posted earlier  but then again
You ll likely just bash the keyboard to bits with a tired response

Common Toronto - address the points made
Report Banned_Banks April 29, 2012 10:15 PM BST
That was of course directed at toroto44 not my good friend homefortea!
Report corbiewood April 29, 2012 10:15 PM BST
On my phone hence the garbelled layout
Report homefortea April 29, 2012 10:29 PM BST
Thanks Banks....keep drinking the fine wine..Me I prefer the Co-op Pino at £5.49 a bottle...

Corbiewood..you are back.Much preferred Banks at least he has allegedly been out of the country.

I have stated before that you are the original apologist.Do one and do us all a favour.You are the poster who cannot reply to a simple question and has to put a spin on everything.....Whoever employs you to talk shi te is really getting their moneys worth today.
Report THIS-IS-GETTING-REDICKULASS April 29, 2012 10:36 PM BST
Oive won fasands off sporting odds had over 8k worth of free bets wiv them and still have not been shut down.









































honestShocked
Report toronto44 April 29, 2012 10:37 PM BST
Not angry Banks and far from frustrated.I lead an interesting and varied life involving lots of travel and friendships and a large family.Maybe not quite as exciting as bookmaker paid for trips to every shi tole track in the country.When i get back i will give you a quick run down of bookmaking(tote, only illegal bookies)at Udon Thani,as we all know exact details of bookmakers operational procedures is a compulsion of yours.   
As for digging a hole and looking for an exit strategy......i think you are confusing me with yourself Banks.

Very borinG now but OK Corb read from your prepared script and i will make an idiot of you again.So lets go point no1............

Banks has it ever occurred to you that maybe you are the one being wound up!!!!!!!!!!
Report corbiewood April 29, 2012 10:39 PM BST
They woul ve went looking for you in the ring 20 year ago. Mug mentality, he who shouts loudest clown.  Only found out how to win when you realised 7.6 was cheaper than a Nevis

All mouth and zero underneath your primark trousers
Report THIS-IS-GETTING-REDICKULASS April 29, 2012 10:42 PM BST
Wats wrong wiv primark
Report corbiewood April 29, 2012 10:43 PM BST
Toronto every post you put on this thread you have shown to be borderline insane , insecure all under pinned by lack of understanding of very basic questions and points

You seem deeply , deeply troubled.  The fact that you are at a rush to highlight your background to a faceless forum would have pyhscology students rubbing there mits
Report toronto44 April 29, 2012 10:44 PM BST
Overtime today Corb is it double divvy Sunday.

So Corb what is this pearl of wisdom you are going to shut me up once and for all with.

That last post was just more of the same not very intelligent bitching
Report toronto44 April 29, 2012 10:46 PM BST
I think corb has been on the special brew
Report THIS-IS-GETTING-REDICKULASS April 29, 2012 10:48 PM BST
Soon as this golfs dun its bedtime is wisbech.Cool

Been fun. . . . corb you are fooking mentull.Crazy
Report GT-MOLE April 29, 2012 10:48 PM BST
Corbiewood are you the same individual that found it necessary to stalk Colonel Trautman and belittle his,by any standards.........outstanding run of posted winners?
Report corbiewood April 29, 2012 10:51 PM BST
You need sectioned

Address te points I ve made - respond to the very basic argument I ve got convening you that your whole mindset is blinkered and you won't be reasoned with

You can't do it

You don't have the intelligence or the understanding. You are a bitter, entrenched old man that deep down knows your out of your depth but hoping if you keep shouting and regurgitating the same peddled crap noone will notice
Report THIS-IS-GETTING-REDICKULASS April 29, 2012 10:54 PM BST
^^^^KETTLE POT BLACK I M O.
Report corbiewood April 29, 2012 10:57 PM BST
Just let  him attempt a counter grime, then you can have your warm milk and go to bed
Report toronto44 April 29, 2012 10:58 PM BST
You didnt make any points corb.

but if you did make one and i missed it in all the verbal diarrhea you posted,please repeat it and i will do my best to answer in as simple a way as possible,then you can go back to HQ for your answer or you can just carry on with your usual incoherent ramblings.

Ok corb lets hear your killer arguments then
Report THIS-IS-GETTING-REDICKULASS April 29, 2012 10:58 PM BST
IM NOW GOING . . . SHEPHERDS PIE FOR TEA TOMORO.Happy
Report GT-MOLE April 29, 2012 10:59 PM BST
It has been noted Corbiewood that you are something of an expert on regurgitation.........is it catching?

Toronto may be banging his drum but yours only seems to know the same beat.............like Status Quo and their 4 chords?Crazy
Report corbiewood April 29, 2012 11:00 PM BST
Lol it's been posted 3 times. Do your best

Cheers
Report THIS-IS-GETTING-REDICKULASS April 29, 2012 11:01 PM BST
DOWN DOWN DEEPER AND DOWN
Report corbiewood April 29, 2012 11:03 PM BST
You must know deep down your an idiot though, no?

I mean I can't have someone not knowing how blinkered and that they posses the intellect of a jilted 15 year old school girl.
Report corbiewood April 29, 2012 11:06 PM BST
Mole you do realise what you e said is stupid ?  So he s banging a plethora of drums or just a single drum ?
Report GT-MOLE April 29, 2012 11:06 PM BST
Here we are and here we go,Corbies brain is on a go slow.

You seem au fait with jilted 15 year old schoolgirls Corbie.....................care to expand on that?
Report toronto44 April 29, 2012 11:07 PM BST
Come on corb i am still waiting for point no 1!!!!!!!!!!!!

Concentrate now and try to come back with something  that is relevant not just a repetition of how sick or insane i am.I think everyone is getting bored with all that childish sillyness
Report GT-MOLE April 29, 2012 11:08 PM BST
I didnt count the snare or hi hat Corbie.........seems I know more about drums than you know about intellect or analogies though?
Report corbiewood April 29, 2012 11:09 PM BST
To back through the thread you bafoon   It's listed twice.
Report GT-MOLE April 29, 2012 11:12 PM BST
Dear oh dear Corbie you are beginning to sound like your number one fan...........his keyboard goes all dyslexic when a superior intellect challenges his cerebral equilibrium.ShockedLaugh
Report corbiewood April 29, 2012 11:15 PM BST
And a multi layered response means it sails over your head and rYou have to resort to rather warped response that comes across as un nerving.
Report corbiewood April 29, 2012 11:18 PM BST
Lol mole , "challenged" isn't what I'd call it ExcitedLaugh
Report toronto44 April 29, 2012 11:18 PM BST
Again corb why have you come on and said i do not answer your points and then refuse to make any points.

......POINT NO I is.......
Report toronto44 April 29, 2012 11:21 PM BST
PS at least you found a new insult...warped hmm cant recall you using that one before.

You may not know much about the real world punters have to work in but you are an A major for bitchy insults.
Report corbiewood April 29, 2012 11:24 PM BST
Caps lock on - oh dear

Toronto , stop ignoring what I ve said - go back through the thread and address each point I made in a single post this afternoon. You said you would and then never (twice)

As I'm on my phone the ability to copy and paste is more drama than its worth but I'm sure Toronto you ll have the ability to search back a few pages

Let's dispense of the silly games now, just address the points.
Report toronto44 April 29, 2012 11:31 PM BST
Go on corb make the effort to re post those killer points or you are going to end up looking a complete tool(AS USUAL).I cant recall you making any relevant arguments.I can only remember you making some totally irrelevant post about internet users demographics and the laughable one about bookmakers playing the event not the man.Were they the best you come up with?

......POINT NO 1 is......
Report corbiewood April 29, 2012 11:32 PM BST
Well it's been fun.... I'll check tomorrow if you ve even attempeted to address each point but I'm a million on you revert to type. 

You keep up your quest for punters rights and fighting the manufactured in justice you go through everytime you want your round robin on. You ve done so well up to now.
Report corbiewood April 29, 2012 11:36 PM BST
Lol I hope once the crack wears off you ll realise how stupid you are, just read the bloody thread back it's not difficult you mentalist.

Your now even attributing other posts to me now, Jesus wept -Hansard would have you bang to rights.
Report toronto44 April 29, 2012 11:37 PM BST
Probably best you go now corb even im starting to feel sorry for you.Get you head down,the bosses tea wont make itself in the morning.

Please feel free to come back on tomorrow if you can remember any of those killer arguments or you get a fresh script from HQ.
Report toronto44 April 29, 2012 11:39 PM BST
crackhead..mentalist..not original but getting better.
Report GT-MOLE April 29, 2012 11:41 PM BST
If it is any help.........and I havent gone through all the posts.

The "Big" bookies do not play the event or the individual in formulating their lay it or nay it when it comes to taking a bet.

Any sniff of a punter who would be likely to cost them i.e even one that only won a score a week regularly and overall posted a profit.Would be restricted for a period to determine if they were going to be long term losers.

If the slightest doubt arose that they would be long term winners they will be closed down.

THAT IS FACT..........NOT FICTION.nap
Report corbiewood April 29, 2012 11:42 PM BST
It's in this thread for the umpteenth time.  Just look back. 

Are you not capable ? 

My god you really are an idiot
Report GT-MOLE April 29, 2012 11:45 PM BST
Save the rest of us searching back Corbie.........indulge us..........what is this bone of contention?
Report toronto44 April 29, 2012 11:47 PM BST
...POINT NO 1 is.....

As i said corb i cant recall any relevant point you made.If i am wrong and you did make an argument that will shut me up and show bookmakers operate in a fair and reasonable manner,now is the time to make it.
Report corbiewood April 29, 2012 11:50 PM BST
What's a fair a reasonable manner Iyo ?
Report toronto44 April 29, 2012 11:52 PM BST
Is that you killer argument then corb that bookmakers work in a fair and reasonable manner.

OK then you tell me why bookmakers work in a fair and reasonable manner
Report Rizzlekick April 29, 2012 11:53 PM BST
God almighty you lot still banging on?
Report corbiewood April 29, 2012 11:54 PM BST
I asked the question you  - don't attempt to try and deflect idiocy. Answer the question
Report toronto44 April 30, 2012 12:04 AM BST
No corb what i have wasted the last hour of my life on.Is your statement that you have made arguments in this thread that i refuse to answer and if you could only remember them,you would prove i am a warped,bitter,lunatic,crackhead mentalist.If one of your killer arguments was that bookmakers act in a fair and reasonable manner i look forward to your attempt to put me in my place,
Report GT-MOLE April 30, 2012 12:05 AM BST
WTF is the question Corbie?

Toronto is winning hands down at the moment........you are sounding like Tony Bliar and evading like Laz Luv.CryShocked
Report Tolstoy April 30, 2012 12:12 AM BST
Sixteen hours on and still no point from Corbiegoon.  Saying many times over that you've made a point does not mean you've made a point.  All you've done is make a point about not having a point.

Much like bookmakers' PR - saying the same thing over and over does not make it so.

P.S. - truyin too hard to sound clever actually backfires - at no point could more than one drum being banged be considered "a plethora".  HTH.
Report Tolstoy April 30, 2012 12:12 AM BST
...trying...
Report mukdahan April 30, 2012 12:17 AM BST
Hi Toronto hope you enjoy your stay in Thailand, i worked up in Mukdahan for just over a year, as a consultant for the Thai government on the construction of the Peace bridge there. Its a beautiful country with such friendly people, just a pity people have such a blinkered view of it.
Report GT-MOLE April 30, 2012 12:20 AM BST
Btw Tolstoy...........he missed the obvious........as in......banging his drum.......singular.LaughLaughWink
Report Rizzlekick April 30, 2012 12:22 AM BST
If it is indeed 16 hours and no point...wtf you lot arguing for? Tongue Out
Report mukdahan April 30, 2012 12:30 AM BST
Twenty years ago  bookies never closed or restricted accounts, yet they still made large profits without having Fobts or internet betting, reason why 99.99% of punters are losers, they hasn"t changed to this day. Old style bookies would have loved arbers, punters who like to bet every race on the basis that a horse is shortening, christ they would have been queuing up to take them on, problems is now bookies can win even quicker by promotim=ng casino games and fobts so why even bother with sports betting at all
Report toronto44 April 30, 2012 12:34 AM BST
Good to hear from you Mukdahan.I dont know too much about the eastern border with Laos.I have spent most of the time close to Vientiane and along the Mekong,crossing into Laos across the friendship bridge from Nong Khai.When in Thailand i now spend most of the time in Udon Thani also Krabi or Phuket.Thats right the people are great and it really is annoying that so many people just associate it with prostitution.It really is the land of smiles,although have found Bangkok to be changing for the worst recently.
Report thesecret April 30, 2012 12:37 AM BST
Im with toronto, Laddies and Boils closed in my case, but only a matter of time with the others bet365 included, they will all close you down for, 1 winning on a regular basis, 2 beating the sp on a regular basis, and probably other criteria such as following TS, or HT etc out of proportion to your general account usage, betting on only horses where it looks like you may have an edge rather than general sports betting or any other reason that looks as if it may cost them.
Its restrictive practise imo and they blatantly only want to take bets from losers as they now have other more lucrative income streams, turf accountants turned into bookmakers now operating more like amusement arcades.....
Report mukdahan April 30, 2012 12:40 AM BST
If you get a chance Toronto try visiting Chaing Mai its a beautiful area up there, i spent my honeymoon up in that area a few years back and was totally captivated by the tranquillity of the place
Report mukdahan April 30, 2012 12:44 AM BST
Ps i agree with you enrirely regarding the under hand tactics of bookies closing or restrticting accounts, its a disgrace the way they treat customers, i have given up trying to have a bet with them as you have stated if youm show any understanding of the game you are shown the door.
Report GT-MOLE April 30, 2012 12:53 AM BST
Have any of you strayed off the beaten path around the Mekong Delta and witnessed the left overs?

Btw Phuket lost any charm it had 20+ years ago once the Brits and Americans landed on the doorstep.
Report toronto44 April 30, 2012 1:07 AM BST
Have not got up to Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai but will take you tip and try to get up there soon.You can fly direct to Chiang Mai fro Udon Thani,so i may give the racing a miss and spend a few days there this time.My favourite place are the islands and beaches off Ao nang and Krabi.

The bookmakers only come on to try to misinform punters and anyone else reading who may expose their dishonesty .The last thing they want is the truth out in the open.To be honest i now bore myself with the same old arguments but if we dont stand up to them,their lies will dominate this forum.
Report toronto44 April 30, 2012 1:14 AM BST
To be honest GT along the northern Mekong is not that exciting other than a few bars(beer lao is better than any Thai beer)and few decent restaurants on stilts.Dont know too much about the rest of the Mekong.

Agree about most of Phuket but if you go right to the south of the island around Nai harn it is still relatively unspoilt.
Report GT-MOLE April 30, 2012 1:25 AM BST
Havent been for too many years toronto,spent a few months with the UN doing ordnance disposal.Still there after so long,spent 2 out of my last 3 years service doing the same in the Balkans.

"Retired" officially on 29 Jan 2011 but the phone and computer never stop.PlainPlain
Report toronto44 April 30, 2012 1:44 AM BST
Great job GT there are still 200 hundred people seriously injured in Laos every year by bombs left over from the Vietnam war,mainly children.You see a lot of kids with no arms and legs.UNICEF,the Laos government and other agencies like the UN are doing a great job trying to clear them up but there are still hundreds of thousands still unexploded.Kids get blown up digging for crickets to eat.

anyway off to bed now,bored everyone enough for one day
Report GT-MOLE April 30, 2012 1:56 AM BST
Goodnight toronto,a never ending tragedy that will continue for many years still.The Balkans are just a young pup in respect of ordnance but they are now the holiday destination for the wealthy and cheap flight brigade.

Short memories and Iraq and Libya have it to come if they ever open up to cheap holidays.......doubt they will but you never know.


Look at the Baltic states after all their grief........dragged down to the level of Darlington for a few £s of British unemployment benefit.AngryAngryCrazy
Report THIS-IS-GETTING-REDICKULASS April 30, 2012 6:19 AM BST
MORNING 43 NEW YOU BOYS LOVE A PAEDEEEEEEEEEEE.

I AGREE WITH TOLSTOY/CRAWFORD FOR ONCE.Excited
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