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By:
IWillHaveADabbleAtThis
When: 21 Apr 12 22:24
tambhoy5

Good crack but I feel sick
By:
GT-MOLE
When: 21 Apr 12 22:28
Ffs stay off crack and stick to gambling........no wonder you feel sick.Laugh
By:
duffy
When: 21 Apr 12 22:30
There are plenty who both lose and win,it makes no difference to deciding whether that person has a problem or not, the definition of it is down to how much time it eats up of your life and whether you find yourself sacrificing other things in order to do it.
By:
yeahyeahwhatever
When: 21 Apr 12 22:32
MillionaireMaker 21 Apr 12 21:41 
Last night before I went to bed I done a £10 Yankee on Harris Tweed, Best Terms, Caspar Netscher and Fury.  I had 3 or 4 dreams about different results in the race, I woke up about 3 times and first thing I thought of was what's the time? Have I missed the 1st race!
spent nearly every minute of today glued to my phone or iPad betting.

I'm addicted and can't stop,  I do enjoy it but wish I could switch off. As soon as I lose a few I start chasing and normally ends bad. Worse if I think I get unlucky (which I do a lot to be fair - check fury today for example lol).

I'd rather be an alcoholic



Well if this really is the truth - why haven't you self-excluded?  The option is there, it's there to help people who can't control their gambling.  You say you can't control your gambling, so why haven't you taken it?
By:
tambhoy5
When: 21 Apr 12 22:37
about 15 years ago i got my wages on the friday afternoon and by tea time i was skint.the g/f at the time wanted to go clubbing and i told her i couldn't afford it and that if she went herself i would finish with her.
well she did and i dumped her,what a waste of 4 good years together and all because of my stupidity and stubbornness Sad
By:
GT-MOLE
When: 21 Apr 12 22:39
The difference between gambling and most other addictions is the element of greed......that is the factor rarely mentioned.

Punters who win want more those that lose will try and recoup the loss by chasing and even if they do recoup will seek to win more.Giving up gambling was the easiest thing I ever did,winning money is the simplest thing I have ever done.Wink
By:
GT-MOLE
When: 21 Apr 12 22:44
*Since btw.Confused
By:
IWillHaveADabbleAtThis
When: 21 Apr 12 22:51
Oh well, at the end of the day there are millions of posters that do it here

I am am a touch despondent that my wife is not one of them
By:
IWillHaveADabbleAtThis
When: 21 Apr 12 22:52
GTLaugh
By:
tambhoy5
When: 21 Apr 12 22:56
emptied all my accounts at the start of the week and turned all money into euros.
sitting here with no funded account and going mental because i can't get a bet on footy or greyhounds tonight even though i've got a pocket full of euros.Crazy
can't even go to the pub ffs they won't accept themCry
By:
IWillHaveADabbleAtThis
When: 21 Apr 12 22:58
I now have a future of doom and gloom due to being kicked out

Perhaps this is the way foeward
By:
IWillHaveADabbleAtThis
When: 21 Apr 12 22:58
forward
By:
GT-MOLE
When: 21 Apr 12 22:59
I dont know why they make such a song and dance about punting addicts.......they never mention the blue rinse brigade at bingo every day or the new online bingo addicts.Deduct them from the figures,then deduct the alchy/druggy gambling addicts.......the unemployed idle fookers and the figures of decent people with jobs and gambling problems is hugely reduced.nap

The latter might accept/want help...........the others will carry on regardless.
By:
GT-MOLE
When: 21 Apr 12 23:01
Tamboy...........ring 555696969..............she accepts any currency........alternatively PM Laz...........he will pay you in any currency.hthWinkLaugh
By:
tambhoy5
When: 21 Apr 12 23:04
Laugh
By:
IWillHaveADabbleAtThis
When: 21 Apr 12 23:05
I used to spend 200 pounds a week following pigeon racing, the chaps always told me they would pay later if they arrived at the pub by 000-00 0 clock
By:
IWillHaveADabbleAtThis
When: 21 Apr 12 23:06
I ad a ell uv a gud gun dinniLaugh
By:
Blackwater
When: 22 Apr 12 02:01
Interesting thread.

Having worked in the business on and off for 25 years here's a few observations:

Gambling can be genuinely and powerfully addictive. Anyone who thinks it's just a matter of willpower or self-control doesn't understand what an addiction is. Urging a gambling addict to bet responsibly would be like telling George Best to limit himself to three units of alcohol a day.

Money lost represents only a fraction of the damage done. For an addict, children, spouse, friends, career, health and every other aspect of life becomes less important than the result of the 3:30 at Punchestown. As someone rightly argued earlier, anyone in this situation is a loser whatever the actual result of the horse race.

The true scale of addiction is incredibly hard to assess. I've worked in shops taking bets off the same people every day, and I'd struggle to say who had a problem and who didn't. Even so, amongst regular gamblers, addiction is almost certainly more prevalent than the industry will admit.

And although addicts may represent a minority of punters, their business is extremely valuable. It's quite possible that most of the industry's profits are generated by addicts. After all, the responsible, 'recreational' customer who blows a tenner once a week on a football accer isn't going to make anyone rich.

Generally, the issue seems to be getting more and more attention and, on balance, I think that's a good thing.
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 22 Apr 12 09:30
^^^^^^^(having been a gambler for over 25 years I would like to have my say)

Although gambling can be addictive due too Adrenalin rises and that feeling of "risk" that is the result , too say all gambling is wrong would be incorrect as even many religions accept it as part of normal life and its one of mans oldest past times according too dicing artifacts found on many sites.

It could be true that the kind of gambling that general bookmakers propagate and indulge in encouragement into playing highly addictive gambling with hopeless over-rounds, unfairness too winners, encouragement into playing highly addictive machine generated quick risk games and the general bombardment of many events is  not good for gamblers generally and has given gambling a very bad name since legislation of high-street operations of which the co-founder of Betfair who was a politician was against and hence his sons brain-child the sporting exchange has come into such huge popularity and we all thank him and betfair for a far greater and better betting experience that doesn't feel like we are taking on a big company at risk and are truly welcomed.
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 22 Apr 12 09:31
it is bookmakers that give gambling a bad name and not the mugs they they create!
By:
Blades
When: 22 Apr 12 10:56
This thread has really made me question my gambling. More the time I spend rather than the money I spend. With BF, you can spend alot of TIME gambling....I follow cricket, racing and footie, so on a day like today with 3 premier league games and 6 hours of amazing IPL cricket, I could spend the next 7 hours on here. I have a wife and a young daughter....I should be sending more time with them!!! I feel very pensive and sympathise with the serious addicts....I am just a small time addict...I am in my forties now and sensible. As a teenager, I left a bookies once I had done all my cash....I then had to walk 4 miles home as I would have done my bus fare money....That was only small change and helped me learn a bit.
Nice honest thread with so many elements I can relate to. I hope you all have a good think!
By:
metro john
When: 22 Apr 12 11:02
I bet you dont stick it blades!Whoops
By:
zilzal1
When: 22 Apr 12 11:04
I suppose its different now with so much sport that can be viewed through social media and television, any kind of habit can be insular,you often hear of people addicted to different things "Your always online, watching sport, soaps, tv chat shows, dating sites" can be levelled against a lot of people from both sexes and ages.

I find the basic lack of even general arithmetic and expectations about all walks of life relating to their own personal abilities a bit worrying
By:
metro john
When: 22 Apr 12 11:08
The brainwashing works Zilzal1 i am living proof. Mornings without jeremy kyle would not be a gas!
By:
zilzal1
When: 22 Apr 12 11:10
On the Beeb about a month ago there was a series of easy questions on arithmetic than apparently half the people in the country struggle with.

No wonder half the population cant manage money
By:
zilzal1
When: 22 Apr 12 11:11
That ffsLaugh
By:
mange
When: 22 Apr 12 11:11
I dont feel that in anyway that im addicted........a hobby for me ...a puzzle to solve...my 1st look i normally see (say) 3 that im interested in.....Ill have £1 ew treb on ere........hundreds of pounds if I win........That LETS YER KNOW how much chance yer got Grin
I feel that the 1st sign that theres a problemis "bad temper" when you loose..........(not forgetting someone else wins)
Thell turn on you in the "betting shop" did you see that.....did you see what he did.....................I dont think that he did anything wrong IS THE WORST ANSWER TO GIVE Laugh
By:
metro john
When: 22 Apr 12 11:12
Yes the elite schools Eton etc,they only teach greed.
By:
trevor007
When: 22 Apr 12 12:01
yesterday morning at 8:32 in my local joes a chinsese lady pushed in front of me waving her bank card, the cashier looked at me I said no probs, she stuck her card in the machine and asked for £400 on the corner machine walked over to baldies couple minutes later all 4 machines on the go.

Illness, weakness whatever one for sure has to happen and that is the naked and gratutitus exploitation of these people by bookmakers has to be stopped.
By:
tambhoy5
When: 22 Apr 12 12:07
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
that's just some one with too much money gained from smuggling illegal immigrants into the country imo.
By:
trevor007
When: 22 Apr 12 12:56
I think thats the point tamb these machines ultimately become filled with money gained from crime.

As with all addictions when you can no longer finance your fix, people turn to crime to pay for it. Which then spreads out to the wider population the likes of you and me when we come home and find our houses and cars has been broken into, people we know and work with get maxed out on there credit cards, there relationships break up they lost there jobs and to come to the point the taxpayer ends up with the bill for there additions

Meanwhile bookies post returns amounting to a £1 000 000 aday profits from them, but hey what the fcuk
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 22 Apr 12 13:06
Chinese love gambling and are very prone to getting over-involved but lets be honest if BF was available in China liquidity would sky rocketGrin
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 22 Apr 12 13:11
Trevor does have a good point!
By:
yeahyeahwhatever
When: 22 Apr 12 13:33
well here's a question for everyone on here (and betfair)... why aren't BF in China?
By:
themightymac
When: 22 Apr 12 15:04
My local betting shop hold regular competitions on their Gaming machine. "Want to enter the competition luv, it`s FREE 10 minute play on the machine and the winner, with most mythical profit gets a FREE £50 bet". Trying to get people hooked on machines, IMO.
By:
comingupthehill
When: 22 Apr 12 15:07
no - they re just advertising /promoting ,they have every right to push there products,its only m,entally adictive not physically,so they have a choice.
By:
RedAdair
When: 22 Apr 12 15:27
I've just read this entire thread.

I haven't time to say anything myself right now.

I'm only posting this so as to easily find the thread again, as I'm not on here, or any of the racing forums, so much at the moment.

Some really interesting and heartfelt posts here...please keep them coming.
By:
Blackwater
When: 22 Apr 12 18:51
Do firms really 'have every right to push their products?'

Giving potential victims free goes on FOBTs in the knowledge that some of them will become hooked seems morally wrong to me.

There was a time when it would certainly have been illegal. When I started in the busines the core principle behind gambling regulation was that betting should be allowed but not encouraged. I don't see what was wrong with that approach.
By:
Charlton2005
When: 22 Apr 12 20:18
All addictions like this are rooted in your upbringing. Blame the parents, no one else.
By:
saddo
When: 22 Apr 12 21:33
Why must blame come into it? Some are weak some are strong, some like apples some like tomatoes. Life cannot be sanitised, nor people homogenised.
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