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ykickamoocow
20 Apr 12 21:14
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as posted earlier in the week laddies were running a 193% ante post book on the scottish national closely followed by VC and the rest of the "we dont take bets off winners brigade"...makes me blood boil..the ordinary punter on the street getting ripped off again and again..nothing will be done about it though.nothing ever is....Angry
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Report ykickamoocow April 20, 2012 9:15 PM BST
AngryAngryAngry
Report comingupthehill April 20, 2012 9:20 PM BST
they ve got a business to runn and employ alot of people,generate alot of money for racing and for the tax man,they are still pretty big odds on most runners so punters will be happy with that - punters arent bothered about these % over rounds.
Report Bassanio April 20, 2012 9:24 PM BST
Of course they are not bothered comingupwithrubbish.

Why would they be!
Report onlooker April 20, 2012 9:25 PM BST
Just out of curiosity - Yesterday, I checked the 'book' on the Scottish National in the Betfred advert in the Weekender.

200% - give or take the fractions.
Report comingupthehill April 20, 2012 9:28 PM BST
i m a punter and i look at the price of the horses i want to back - i dont work out the %over rounds and moan because its too high,and i dont know a punter who does ,unless maybe in a 5 horse race and they go 3/1 all of them.
Report ykickamoocow April 20, 2012 9:49 PM BST
i m a punter and i look at the price of the horses i want to back - i dont work out the %over rounds and moan because its too high,and i dont know a punter who does ,unless maybe in a 5 horse race and they go 3/1 all of them.

           
thats why your going down the hill now.or should that be hills..Grin
u must work for laddies or be a bookies rep...call yourself a punter...dont make me laugh..u back a horse with laddies at 33/1 when its 100/1 here....of course been a punteru would of  probably worked out that's its a 10/1 shot and the value is to be had at laddies....CrazyCrazy
Report comingupthehill April 20, 2012 9:51 PM BST
the discussion wasnt laddies v on here - its was about over rounds,the average punter dosent even notice ,unless he thinks its a poor price.
Report ykickamoocow April 20, 2012 10:03 PM BST
their isnt many average punters on here..they are highly skilled and have evolved into smart thinking mathematically minded individuals and believe me they get p***** off when the average punter is getting shafted...its good to highlight the fact so ppl are aware of it......percentage over rounds matter to  ppl here..so does value..its the difference between winning and losing..Wink
Report bf_fananatic April 20, 2012 10:41 PM BST
A word of warning to anyone using a bookmaker , make sure the instructions are clearly wrote on your slip as if you accept any verbal declaration that a bet has been"amended on the system" it simply wont stand if it should win with a decent payout!Sad
Report bf_fananatic April 20, 2012 10:43 PM BST
Not at corals anyway,and I suspect its a regular trick at others that mis-use automated recepting systems!
Report thelastleprechaun April 20, 2012 10:54 PM BST
I will never understand anyone supporting ladbrokes vc hills ppower etc or any of them its unbelievable and i agree with ykickamoocow 100%... why would anyone back their selection @10.1 if its 19/1 here for example... we shouldnt support those rip off merchants that will trim their wings....
Report bf_fananatic April 20, 2012 11:33 PM BST
perhaps the bookmakers will arb the bets from freds,hills etc to somewhere else and get double under the counter and does anyone know what rhymes with "avoid the axeman", if you catch my driftWink
Report bf_fananatic April 20, 2012 11:33 PM BST
100% taxfreeWink
Report bf_fananatic April 20, 2012 11:34 PM BST
if these lines get zapped you know why.
Report bf_fananatic April 20, 2012 11:35 PM BST
Whoops
Report bf_fananatic April 20, 2012 11:39 PM BST
I think the taxman is using the gambling companies as whipping boys and its not really fair as it makes companies have to find the money from somewhere, in fact its common knowledge that some bookmakers are payng more tax than they earn!
Report bf_fananatic April 20, 2012 11:42 PM BST
What are we all going todo if we cant drink, smoke or have a flutter because the tax makes it all impossible to afford, wont stop the elite in power drinking champayne, they even have a bar that they can smoke at in the house of lords, hypocrits!
Report GT-MOLE April 20, 2012 11:43 PM BST
Bf..............thank fook you are alive and lesdyxic..........we thought Latka had kidnapped you and sold you to the crossdressing ring.LoveCoolWink
Report bf_fananatic April 20, 2012 11:44 PM BST
oh no its the moleScaredWink
Report GoldCupWinner April 20, 2012 11:44 PM BST
I'm an average punter and have no clue what over rounds bookmakers are working from. I just use oddschecker and also check the Betfair market to see which is the biggest price on the horse I want to back after taking commission into account.
Report bf_fananatic April 20, 2012 11:44 PM BST
how dare you make was is wat is no ritin proper, well not nice.
Report bf_fananatic April 20, 2012 11:45 PM BST
am too lazy to spell check or prooof!
Report GT-MOLE April 20, 2012 11:45 PM BST
Ho on sti eht elom.Wink
Report bf_fananatic April 20, 2012 11:45 PM BST
lol
Report bf_fananatic April 20, 2012 11:47 PM BST
odds checker, pretty cool site , i like the price watch for steamers and drifters and you can premeditate directions prices will go later if you like trading!
Report bf_fananatic April 20, 2012 11:48 PM BST
you notice alot of steamers though that colapase in a heap at the back soon after the off?
Report bf_fananatic April 20, 2012 11:48 PM BST
my spelling is simply the worse , i admit that muchWink
Report bf_fananatic April 20, 2012 11:50 PM BST
I have entered half of the top spelling competitions you know, the other half I coulnt fill the appycation form in!
Report homefortea April 21, 2012 11:58 AM BST
If you are relying on oddschecker for your price changes bf then you must be in the poorhouse !! Since Laddies came back on board it has been "amended".For example if a firm opened up at 20/1 and are now showing 12/1 you would expect the price to be in blue.However if that said firm went 20-10 and then eased the selection to 12/1 then it now shows as a drifter in pink !!

Be very very careful with that site......
Report ykickamoocow April 21, 2012 12:06 PM BST
skullduggery of the highest order...dont bet with bookies on scottish national..come here...
Report ykickamoocow April 21, 2012 3:21 PM BST
Angry
Report Rico-Dangleflaps April 21, 2023 3:51 PM BST
got a business to run
Report diabolicalliability April 21, 2023 4:00 PM BST
Got m againCryCryCry
Report geoff m April 21, 2023 4:20 PM BST
Same folks will buy a coffee for £3.50 when only costs probably 20p to make. Nobody forces you to pay over the odds for goods/services
Report Rico-Dangleflaps April 21, 2023 4:23 PM BST
wel sed geoff
Report hulk23 April 21, 2023 7:13 PM BST
coffee shops aren't all over protecting their customers 24/7 (mostly as an excuse to profile everyone that has a bet with them).  someone has a £1 win bet at 50/1 when it's 840/1 here.  they need to be protected, so does fred call them and explain they're placing win bets at each-way prices ?  does he tell them if they want to bet win-only they should use the betfair exchange ?

or does he sit back and fleece ?
Report hulk23 April 21, 2023 7:16 PM BST
have £1 at 50/1 when its 42.0 to lay here he'll send you an email 5 minutes later telling you after a review of your account he'd quite like it if you fked off and never gambled with him again Scared
Report jimnast April 21, 2023 8:06 PM BST
Why on earth would Fred ring someone up who has taken 50/1 a horse that’s 840 on here ,if you layed 50s an 840 chance would you tell the punter that it 840 on here ?
Report hulk23 April 21, 2023 8:09 PM BST
sounds like a vulnerable punter.  doesn't he care about vulnerable punters ?
Report hulk23 April 21, 2023 8:11 PM BST
betting should be fun and friendly ... fred.

nothing friendly about laying 50's about a 500/1 shot.
Report jimnast April 21, 2023 8:18 PM BST
When that punter has a bet with Fred what is he trying to do ?
Report Rico-Dangleflaps April 21, 2023 8:35 PM BST
cant recall the last 50's chance that was 500 in ear..
Report tanglefoot April 22, 2023 12:27 PM BST
ykickamoocow where is he now,catchy pseudonym.
Report FOYLESWAR April 22, 2023 1:09 PM BST
last i haead he kicked a cow and dint realise it  was a bull, not been heard of since .
Report longbridge April 22, 2023 1:19 PM BST
@hulk

"does he tell them if they want to bet win-only they should use the betfair exchange ? or does he sit back and fleece ?"

I am fairly sure Caffe Nero do not tell their customers they could get their coffees from the 'spoons around the corner for half the price with free refills, nor would I expect them to.
Report geoff m April 22, 2023 1:39 PM BST
A coffee @ Caffe Nero a day is about £1000 a year. Caffeine can be addictive.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps April 22, 2023 1:59 PM BST
Excited
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