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Anybody got the full order of finish and the date of the race,and if its not asking to much any details of the big sprint that day.
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Kris had been just below top class as a two year old, the climax to his season coming in the form of the Horris Hill Stakes at Newbury. The Bruce Hobbs trained Tromos went into the winter as clear favourite for the following year's 2000 Guineas. The following April, Tromos was eclipsed in the Craven Stakes by the Cecil-trained Lyphard's Wish. As this happened, Kris was being fine-tuned for his Guineas preparation, the Greenham Stakes, which he duly won. The defeat of Tromos catapulted Kris to favouritism for the Guineas, but a slight setback meant that on race day he was perhaps one gallop short. In the event, three horses emerged from the Dip with chances but it was the 20/1 shot Tap On Wood, ridden by the recently-arrived Steve Cauthen, who gained victory by a narrow margin from Kris, with Young Generation a close third.
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CRAVEN STAKES 1 M 3 YR OLD COLTS/GELDINGS
CLASS A GROUP 3 NEWMARKET APRIL 1979 11133/1. LYPHARDS WISH 3.8.7 J.Mercer H.Cecil 11/2 Lyphard - Sallys Wish (Sensitivo) 311/2. TROMOS 3.9.0 J.Lynch B.Hobbs 30/100 Fav Busted - Stilvy (Derring Do) 21132/3. WARMINGTON 3.8.7 B.Taylor J.Hindley 7.1 Home Guard - Sapphire Spray (Floribunda) DIST 2,1/2 L 4 L 3 RAN |
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Nice work Delta.
Sure I also remember Brough Scott sittng in the TV studio with Alex Bird. Bird chundered on before the race how it was a racing certainty. It was a2/5 shot and that we should all lump on. Huge embarrassemnt all round and some long faces in th studio when it got turned over. |
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Thanks Delta. You've rekindled some fond memories of Lyphard's Wish and Kris.
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I read that Yarmi's fav horse was Lyphards Wish and he did loads of gooduns at Henrys...
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Lyphard's Wish went on to win the Dante before finishing 5th behind Troy in the Derby.
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that was some Derby with 2 subsequent Classic Winners not in the 1st 8 home
2 Subsequent Eclipse winners a King George & Champion Stakes winners left trailing in Troys wake. |
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If i remember it was a glorious June day as well, ahh the summer of 79, i had hair then
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Huggy - the Craven was run on April 17.
No big sprint that day. The Abernant was run on the 18th (won by Vaigly Great, from Boldboy and Gypsy Dancer). The Boldboy stakes was run on the following day, the 19th, over 6f. |
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Warmington was well named...never noticed at the time. Tromos was so exciting.....George Cambanis of Stilvi fame. Greeks had a few quid in those days.Mr Hobbs was some trainer.
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Henry Cecil ran 6 horses, in 5 races, at the 3-day meeting, and won 4 of them, including the Craven, the Nell Gwyn (with One In A Million), and the Wood Ditton. I think they might have been his first runners of the season. I remember being in the bookies on the Tuesday, mainly to see (or listen) how Tromos got on, and thinking I might just as well back his horses blindly. That's what my dad did with Murless horses.
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Talking of Greeks i remember on derby night going to Anemos, a Greek eaterie on Charlotte Street, where much to my surprise all the waiters claimed to have backed Troy when we knew half of them had of course lumped on Ela Mana Mou in the shop earlier that day!!
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Geoff was right of course, that was some derby and the form was franked time and time again, Dickens Hill won the Eclipse, Northern Baby the champion and Ela Mana Mou was some horse as a 4yo!!
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Anyone name the 2 subsequent Classic winners?
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I had a grand on One in a Million for the 1000Gs. Funny,rarely have a score on a classic nowadays.No kids...no fear I suppose.
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Very interesting point about the form of Troy's Derby...and how he savaged them all too!
Year in year out, Derby form is as bad as it gets but 1979 was exceptional. Has anyone got the entire field to peruse over? |
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1 TROY (Sir M Sobell), 9-0 W Carson (4)
2 DICKENS HILL, ch c Mount Hagen - Priddy Maid (Mme J Binet), 9-0 A Murray (10) 3 NORTHERN BABY (Can), b c Northern Dancer - Two Rings (Mme A d'Estainville), 9-0 P Paquet (18) 4 Ela-Mana-Mou, 9-0 G Starkey ( 15) 5 Lyphard's Wish (Fr), 9-0 J Mercer (1) 6 Hardgreen (USA), 9-0 P Cook (5) 7 Man of Vision, 9-0 B Raymond (12) 8 Cracaval, 9-0 W Shoemaker (8) 9 Niniski (USA), 9-0 J Reid (2) 10 Milford, 9-0 L Piggott (23) I1 Noelino, 9-0 C Roche ( 14) 12 Tap on Wood, 9-0 S Cauthen (3) 13 Morvetta (bl), 9-0 G Baxter (17) 14 Two of Diamonds, 9-0 E Johnson (7) 15 Son of Love, 9-0 A Lequeux (9) 16 Accomplice (USA), 9-0 Y Saint-Martin ( 13) 17 New Berry, 9-0 P Eddery (16) 18 Chetinkaya, 9-0 B Rouse (20) 19 Lake City (USA), 9-0 B Taylor (11) 20 Leodegrance (USA), 9-0 P Waldron (19) 21 Halyudh (USA), 9-0 G Lewis (21) 22 Laska Floko, 9-0 E Hide (6) 23 Saracen Prince (bl), 9-0 J Lynch left (22) Distances: 71, 31, 3/4l, 21, sht-hd. Official Time: 2min 36.59sec. S.P: 6-1 Troy, 15 Dickens Hill, 66 Northern Baby, 9-2 (fav.) Ela-Mana-Mou. Winner bred by Ballymacoll Stud Farm Ltd; trained by **** Hern at West Ilsley, Berks. |
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What price did you get Cape??, think she was around 8-1 for the race before her 3yo reappearance, think she was around 11-10 on the day!!-if i remember rightly she flopped at Royal Ascot and wasnt seen again!!
You'd give the cashier a heart attack trying to get a grand on these days |
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Son Of Love won the Leger and Niniski the Irish version??
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Remember going to Donny late June early July backing Morvetta of Denys Smith after all it had just finished behind the 2000 GNS winner Tap On Wood & Milford huge distance winner of Lingfield Classic trial in front of(and not knowing then subsequent leger winner)Son of Love
Hosed up. |
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9/2 Ela mana Mou
6 Troy 15/2 Milford 15/2 Tap On Wood 11 Lyphard's Wish 12 Noelino 15 Dickens Hill 22 Cracaval 25 Hardgreen 25 New Berry 25 Two Of Diamonds 33 Man Of Vision 40 Laska Floko 50 Accomplice 50 Lake City 66 Northern Baby 80 Niniski 200 Halyudh 200 Son Of Love 500 Chetinkaya 500 Leodegrance 500 Morvetta 500 Saracen Prince |
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Yes Zil
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Cracaval was Barry Hills, wasn't it??
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Thanks Geoff - I knew it would be Son Of Love (answer to your question) but I couldn't remember it running.
Niniski won the Irish Leger that year and I did remember he ran at Epsom! Great memories reading through that lot and it's hard to remember one as good as that renewal. |
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Yes Zil.Was he also Tony Shead ownership like Tap On Woood?
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Can't remember the owner, i was working for Playboy at the time, staff parties were a crack, sigh's wistfully
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Mr A.D. Shead in the racecards/papers I used to read
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Green with Black stripes cant recall whether cap was still green or may have been Yellow
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Alex Bird had an enormous bet on TROMOS when he won the Dewhurst.
And he considered him unbeatable in the Gns. Bird even broke his customary low profile to appear on TV shortly before the Gns and he said, "If TROMOS doesn't win 3 lengths going away I'll be a disappointed man." When TROMOS defected from the Gns at the last minute Bird was shattered. TROMOS is an anagram of Motors. |
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That made it two certainties in consecutive years coming from the Dewhurst to 3yo careers following after the sadly named Try My Best
Who did'nt and finished last |
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Soft ground that year Zil
Was it the easily forgettable Roland Gardens the winner that year? |
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Yep, i think he was the last 2000 winner that took in the Epsom Blue Riband the week before!!
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Wasn't Habibti (against Chief Singer) supposed to be another of Alex Bird's certainties?
I don't know how those geezers ever made it pay because everything they every tip is very short and invariably gets stuffed! Were these tales of professional gamblers, just a hoax from the bookies to make everyone think it was THEM who was the 'special one' who could actually be the alchemist! |
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"...following after the sadly named Try My Best."
TRY MY WORST |
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I remember that Foetus
probably the curse of the TV cameraThought he made his dosh on Photo betting mostly?? |
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And you'd have given up the game if you'd had of backed those two and the very next year punted Nureyev
How that got slung still baffle me |
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PS - Alex Bird saw Carson's stand-in on Habibti (Piggott) as being at least a three pound advantage
 I know Piggott was worth his weight in gold, and is undoubtedly the best jockey there has been, but Carson really knew that filly, and how it could be construed as an asset to have 'The Pig' on board, baffled me at the time  It still does! |
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Baffles*
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I think her effort in the Kings stand when she made an awful amount of ground to catch Anita's Prince bottomed her though, she never seemed the same after
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