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virtual racing it is for jermaine then
ENJOY YOUR CARTOONS |
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xmoneyx, jermaine is a
cartoon. |
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BAN IT
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I suspect the OP is not alone, I felt a little uneasy myself. But his right not to participate is just that - his right. When it comes to calls for banning the race, I would take a different stance.
There is no defence when the arguement against is that horses' lives are being risked. No amount of platitudes about "5 star treatment" or teary eyed anthropomorphic gush will ever persuade one single anti to capitulate when the job they are bred and trained for carries one iota of risk. There is only one correct approach, for this issue as well as many others in our cancel culture century. Tell them squarely and forthrightly, "This is what we do and we will continue to do it. Whilst we recognise that you, in your minority, do not believe that such activity should be permitted under law, we demand that you recognise and respect that we act responsibly in accordance with stipulated regulations. Furthermore we steadfastly refuse to accept that you, in that minority, have the right to disrupt or prevent us from doing what we do in such manner. Now please stand aside". Unless we have the confidence to stand up for ourselves and our culture, we will sink further into the abject poverty of what it is to have a meaningful and diverse existence. |
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Cow bred for meat, or racehorse bred to race?
Both livestock. I'd want to be the racehorse I reckon. Seems like a much better life. So should we ban all meat and animal products tomorrow? |
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Fred is ageless tbf
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Jermaine do you eat meat of some sort,if you do then you should go to the slaughter house and watch the animals as they know what is happening some try to jump free and also struggle.That surely is more cruel they have no chance to live a full life,some are only 6 months to a year old when they should live years.If you do eat meat you are promoting this happening,I myself do eat some meat and think it is part of life,what would happen to these horses if they did not become racehorses,dog meat I presume.You cannot just say that the National is cruel due to the casualties,even on the flat horses are put down.But these horses are treated very well in their stables and well looked after,not queuing up up to get turned into dog meat,or left in a field with nothing to eat and having no Vet care.
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Quickest way to get rid of 99% of animal cruelty in the uk outside of the food industry is to ban anyone having pets.
Simple fact. |
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canny username from way back
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McCririck said Synchronised should never have started the race having thrown McCoy and run loose, while Claire Balding in commentary just before the start said the horse 'didn't look up for it', appearing jittery when McCoy presented it to the first fence.
If Balding could see that from the commentary box, then you'd think McCoy must've known his mount was reluctant to race too. But then,being McCoy, perhaps he thought the horse was just being soft. |
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i think the start is the crucial.
they need to take the speed out of the race over those first 2 or three fences. how you do that is up for debate...a different starting position perhaps. i found today a tough watch. i love horseracing and ive been betting on it all my life but i dont want to see animals suffer. |
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Just watched the women playing rugby - gosh it is violent with lots of injuries - TOO DANGEROUS - I am never going to watch another rugby game
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UNTIL THE NEXT ONE
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Watch the Race running after Cheese rolling down a steep hill.Ban it the Cheese always gets toasted.
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When I was forced to play rugby at school back in the 80s - a game I utterly loathe - it wasn't uncommon for players to have ears half bitten off and eyes trod on deliberately in a ruck. As a tight-head prop, I was usually the one being trodden on. A game was played in almost absolute silence, only the two team captains being allowed to speak. Woe betide any other team member who said anything ; they'd get a swift whack around the head from one of the games masters, all of whom were total sadists. One of them thought it great fun to swerve his Lancia Delta at you as he tore down the school's driveway. He eventually moved to another school, where he was dismissed for throwing a child against the gym wall,triggering an epileptic fit. He finally found his niche, it seems, by joining the Met'.
I say this since years later I was chatting to a chap and his wife who coach young kids at rugby, and by the look on both their faces after I'd told them what it was like playing school rugby back when I did,they were both utterly appalled. As much as we hated it, we accepted it ; but that didn't make it right, and I know few people today who would think kids being brutalised in that way was acceptable, then or now. Times change. Perhaps the Grand National isn't a sensible race to have in the 21st century, not just because of public attitudes towards the race, but also because of the simple fact that most horses these days are bred for speed, and are therefore not up to the still unique set of challenges that the National presents them with. |
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I enjoyed the race, a few spills and thrills, almost like the old days.
Sure plenty more feel the same. |
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Aye horses and bodies flying around ffs
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Not your smartest move - RICO ...
Bringing this Thread back from many years ago. Just WHAT was the Point? It certainly ain't funny. ![]() |
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bluebook - i resonate wiv ya - early 80s p.e exercise we had a teacher who fookin luvd himself afta appearing on Its A Knockout for Sunderland on the telly - very apt where story goes- kid luvd himself and so did the soppy gals at school as it appens - anyway only cricket game i eva rememba playing at school p.e. teacher throws a bouncer at a lad who was 6 stone wet thru if ya lucky - more to story than that - anyway he missed by inches on a rubber mat pitch by way so bounce was propa nasty - tried again and got the lad and thort he was the dogs bollix until the lad strode down the pitch and knocked him out wiv the best eva swing ive eva seen
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onlooker 15 Apr 23 21:22
Not your smartest move - RICO ... Bringing this Thread back from many years ago. Just WHAT was the Point? It certainly ain't funny. Cry The ball bag is a pain, you don’t get fired at with a sawn off for nowt ffs… |
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Memo to self. Check the date after this parasite has posted anything.
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The only people who should be arguing to ban this race are vegans.
Everybody else are damn hypocrites. |
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Yep agree 100 %
Punters couldn’t give a toss as long as they collect….well a high percentage imo.. |
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Let’s put it this way,you punt on a NH race and the selection is ten lengths behind the leader going to the last fence..
What are you thinking ? Answer on a postcard….. |
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Congratulations on your Celtic AOAW, Lochy!
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steerforth 16 Apr 23 12:06
Memo to self. Check the date after this parasite has posted anything. rather a parasite than a clown 🤡 |
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kenbo Joined: 05 Aug 12
Replies: 20888 16 Apr 23 12:44 Congratulations on your Celtic AOAW, Lochy! Ta like finding money in the street… |
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I do understand the sentiments of posters but I feel they are missing the point. The GN is probably the most iconic jumps race in the world and if the protestors manage to get it banned I feel the whole NH scene will be under considerable threat. The numbers of protestors would grow inexorably as a result of the GN being banned and they would make NH racing and possibly all horseracing impossible to manage.
Personally I never enjoyed watching yesterdays race but I do believe the whole hysterics of the situation, the time factor and the faster ground played into the protestors hands and they may even get some pleasure from that. |
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they are not pets they are bred to race as livestock are bred to be eaten
you cant take all the risk out of sport only minimise it- they will need to look again at the layout of the race and they need to aim for soft ground to slow the race down using words like slaughter is pathetic |
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Some no doubt are probably attention-seekers, and time-riched, possibly hypocrites too. I'd like to know more of their background and lifestyle.
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I dont think it helps when Chamberlin says things like {their going over the big fences} .Some of the non racing people believe him.
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