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I am sure there was a predecessor to the ITV7 saturday afternoon bet, but am at a loss to what it was called!
I think it involved picking the first six in one race or something similar, is there anyone out there who can remember this bet as it is driving me mad! Thanks in anticipation
I think it involved picking the first six in one race or something similar, is there anyone out there who can remember this bet as it is driving me mad! Thanks in anticipation
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I don't remember anything prior to the ITV7 & certainly in those pre-tricast etc days, I can't imagine anyone being interested in 'exotic style' bets
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I can remember a bet slip for the telly where you had to pick 1st and 2nd in each of the 4 races on bbc1 i think it was.(or was it 5 or 6 races)Like f/c but you got bonuses of 10% etc the more you got correct.
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What was the name of the bet where you had to pick the first 6 in a 16 runner handicap?
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pauli I think it was called looking and praying for a miracle.
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I remember the bet, though not the name of it. I don't think it lasted very long, probably because it was too hard. I don't remember anyone ever winning it in full. It wasn't before the ITV 7 though, just ran at the same time for a while.
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Wee eck I'm always praying for a miracle but they seem mighty scarce around my neck of the woods.
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I am pretty certain that there was a bet in the 60s hosted by
John Rickman simply named the ITV 6. |
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This was good but Friday racing only
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQHB1zd1f5M |
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A friend of mine is sure that it was before itv7 as the bbc were very formal in their presentation and couldn't imagine them airing such an innovation to their select viewers!
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you could do either ITV 5 ITV 6 or ITV 7 On one slip
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I remember that greg, but am sure that this bet involved either comb f/c or 1st six in race.
Am supposed to be trying to sort out aintree and this has done my brain in! Thanks everyone for trying to put me out of my self inflicted misery |
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I don`t remember it but it wouldn`t have been the BBC and I think ITV normally only covered one meeting ( 4 races at most ) then. Which was as well cos Rickman couldn`t remember where he was at the best of times.
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Remember John Rickman and Ken Butler, and ITV 7,
but can't remember anything pre ITV 7, BBC would def not have done it. |
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Could always find Oaksey in the champagne bar at any track, he always gave 2 in a race then another to the viewers for luck!
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The 'first 6' race was definitely ITV - as pauli says, they selected one big-field hcap. It was much too hard. Even if you picked the correct 6 horses, you needed 720 bets to cover the different possible finishing orders. I think it ran for just one flat season.
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The ITV Seven has its own wiki page! Started Oct '69 apparently.
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^ think the noble Lord was John Lawrence in those days before his peerage.
and commentators were John Penney and Raleigh Gilbert and Graham Goode. seem to remember there was a bet which involved picking the first 6 in a big handicap race, but pretty sure this was not pre ITV 7. |
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bet in the 70s/early 80s for BBC racing was the
BBC TRIELLA 3 forecasts for the 3 races shown |
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Must be the one i was thinking of ooonanasez
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Thats the one mate, massive thanks for all who helped in this one.
Now to aintree and looking for something to beat killyglen before the hard earnt gets squandered! Good luck all and thanks |
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I remember the bet,first six in a selected handicap.
I thought it was the ITV6 but a colleague has an inkling it was called the Roll-Up. |
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The Roll Up was a bet in the Daily Mail selected by someone who went under the name Robin Goodfellow....it wasn't everyday but the idea was to run up a sequence of winning bets. I was at boarding school in 1963 and remember following it avidly;from memory it was very successful.
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1st 6 in correct order was called (i think), the Tote Roll up!
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It was the tote roll up, were you able to do it on a coupon with a football pools collector from Littlewoods or Vernons? Vauge memories of it
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First 6 - in the CORRECT order - in a 16 runner+ Handicap
Blimey! Don't go giving daft Racing for Change any ideas.  |
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It was called the Tote Roll-Up - one of its biggest supporters was Peter O'Sullevan who ran his own horse Attivo in about half a dozen of the big field handicaps that were the basis of the bet. That's why Attivo had to run at distances ranging from 7 furlongs to 2 miles in the space of about three months.
I'm pretty sure that was when Attivo was a 3-y-old, which would put this bet in 1972, as he won the Triumph in 1973. If anyone has his book to hand, the details should be in the chapter about Attivo. |
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Correction - 1974 Triumph, so the bet was operating during the 1973 flat season.
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To guarantee the 16 runners I think they had 2 reserves
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In the inaugural event,Attivo was the only one balloted out.
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Ha! First one was a 3yo hcap Ascot over 5f in April 1973. 21 were left in - there needed to be 4 reserves, so a ballot was held to ballot out one of the 5 bottom weights - and the one balloted was.... ATTIVO.
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If it wasn't won(!), 70% of the pool was carried over to the next Sat, but it had to be won on the 3rd Sat.
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Well done, ged ....
Now that brings us onto .... Whatever happened to RACE-O? |
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April 7th, 1973
Top of the hcap were:- Burlington Boy Adams Pet Welsh City Brave Lad Maxi's Taxi Pal Dan Kincardine O'Neill |
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onlooker 10 Apr 12 17:25
First 6 - in the CORRECT order - in a 16 runner+ Handicap Blimey! Don't go giving daft Racing for Change any ideas.  |
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scoop 4 scoop 5 and scoop 6 next
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Brave Lad won it.
..and Peter Oosterhuis was 3 shots clear in the Masters after a rain-delayed 3rd round. |
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Oosterhuis shot 74 for the final round, and finished in a tie for 3rd.
On Tues April 10, Sea Pigeon was a forecast 4/1 2nd fav for the Craven at Newmarket, to be ridden by Bill Williamson, and was 20/1 in the A/P lists for the 2000gns. |
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What did you have for your tea, ged?
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