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Your Favourite Horses who weren't champions?
Your Favourite Horses who weren't champions?
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Night Nurse beat Bueche Giorod on his comeback from being pin-fired at Doncaster @ 14-1,Red Alligator Hcp chase I think.
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You're right fts. The race was at Doncaster and Night Nurse carried top weight and slammed a useful field. I'd forgotten about that - Night Nurse had been off over a year I think.
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no champions allowed
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Anybody here remember a horse called Traloch (sp?)? He won a few races in the 80's. He was an entire horse and always came from way off the pace. I remember backing him in Cheltenham, not the festival, and Sandown (i think).
If my memory serves me right he was owned by a syndicate from Derbyshire. They bought him for penny's and he was blind in one eye. I have yet to thank JJ O'Neil for thinking he had a train under him and gave him a stinker of a ride about 40 lengths off the pace and finished 2nd. Cost me a what was at the time a small fortune! |
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You've got me stumped on that one MrWilts.
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I remember a horse called traloch, but I think it was spelled toirbhalbeach, which was bizarrly pronounced
Traloch, it was obviously irish, was an entire, think it was trained by p.o connor. although i would not put money on it. |
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You may be right motley01. I vaguely remember a horse spelt like that but don't ask me to pronounce it!
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Yeh me neither Pauli, not to fooking sure about the spelling either, but I do
remember a little black entire always got miles behind, it's the name that sparked, altough pronounced traloch, it was spelt entirely different, like lean ar aghraigh or lean on the arga, apologies to our Irish friends |
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Yeh me neither Pauli, not to fooking sure about the spelling either, but I do
remember a little black entire always got miles behind, it's the name that sparked, altough pronounced traloch, it was spelt entirely different, like lean ar aghraigh or lean on the arga, apologies to our Irish friends |
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That's the one Motley
 I think your spelling of toirbhalbeach is fairly close too. He would have had some in running price nowadays! |
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just switched on and brilliant motley with that entire horse,going back to my post about the greatest and his horses ten plus would have won the gold cup of course and great to read that so many of his not top draw horses were well liked any one remember kilbritain castle?
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I just hd a quick read of the thread and am a bit surprised none of the oldimers has mentionaed that grand old horse The Tsarevich.
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Yeh cinkno as i said earlier great thread brings back memories, kilbritain castle was that
a cheshnut horse went from front jumped brilliant, was it walwyn, similar type of horse Burnt oak trained by the duke i think, from the front as well, if i remember correctly |
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Walwyn again,better right handed I think.Ten Plus who knows where it could have gone? For those who love tight finishes,remember Lettoch, Diamond Edge and I think Special Cargo having a buckle in the Whitbread?
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Great race ph, didnt Bill Smith get special cargo up on the line, photo finish
took an age, lettoch/dckinson, diamond edge stablemate, did he have top weight diamond |
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not sure if d/h for places but it was an epic, how the season should end IMO.
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Great effort with the spelling motley, I think it's Toirdhealbhach.
Don't know who trained it, but you're also spot on with the P O'Connor connection. Tralochs owner also had Three Of Diamonds with Martin Pipe, and P O'Connor rode him to finsh 7th in 82 National. The owner, a Mr Harpur-Crewe, also had Oer The Border in the 83 National, but he got rid of O'Connor at the chair.My memory of Kilbrittain Castle was that he was great round Sandown, I remember coming from absolutely miles back to win there on one occasion. |
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Fabulous there you go, memory is funny thing I always thought kc went from the front.
was Oer the border trained up north, P. Calver perchance |
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I can't remember if he always ran like that, but on that day he really did come from a mile back. He was one of those horses who seemed to run every week.
Oer The Border was trained by O'Connor, so no doubt he trained Traloch too. |
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Toirdhealbhach is a name in irish TURLOUGH OR TEARLACH in scotsgaelic...me been a paddy and all..
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Quito
The Grey Monk (never saw him race just remember hearing the name blasting from inside the bookies before I was old enough to try and get in |
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Untold
Brig Chop Maamur Monkerhostin Duncan Idaho |
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Great memories of that Whitbread in 1984 ph. Plundering and Lettoch were disputing the lead over the last, Diamond Edge was back in 3rd and Special Cargo in 4th. I'm pretty sure Ashley House ran in that race for Dickinson as well.
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think it was that year or maybe a year on when Francome nursed Burrough Hill Lad around in the Hennessy under a stopping weight.1984 ffs seems a lifetime ago,I was nearly legal as regards punting being 17,however there was none of that Prove 21 bollox around and we can happily go and punt in the smokey atmosphere with board markers and Extel.
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Burrough Hill Lad won the Hennessy in 1984 ridden by Francome who also won the race in 1983 on Fred Winter's Brown Chamberlin. I'll never forget that Hennessy ph, Burrough Hill Lad carried 12st that day and became the first horse to win the race under that weight or more since Arkle in 1965. He thrashed Canny Danny and Gaye Chance and a number of other good horses including Drumlargan and the promising Everett.
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I had £40 around 7/2 and £2 r/f with the 2nd. A good day for a young A level student esp. after chucking a score at the Gold Cup ante post not knowing JF was claimed by Winter and Phil Tuck would be on, many bad days since (and some decent ones as well) but its been a game and a half.
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slight confusion there,the AP bet was on BHL after JF won on Brown Chamberlin.I followed BHL through thick and thin and can remember thinking 12st wasn't such a big deal being young and naive and £40 was a lot of money to me then.You have to learn the game eh? Denmans weight carrying actually meant more to me aesthetically,you finally get the game after serving your time,highs and lows and appraciate class and guts at the top level.
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AMHARULLA Trained by JOHN THORNE 100 PLUS runs never won MY number SQUIGGLE in Timeform but for me did his best,
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I know exactly what you mean ph. I used to follow Sea Pigeon on the flat and over hurdles and had some great days, 2 Chester Cups and 2 Champion Hurdles and a host of other wins. However, on Ebor day in 1979 unlike you I allowed the fact that Sea Pigeon was carrying 10st to influence me and I didn't back him. Needless to say he won beating Donegal Prince in a photo. The race wasn't televised that day due to a TV strike so I had to listen to it in the local bookies which was packed out. I was both delighted and gutted that he won - delighted for my favourite horse of all time but gutted that I didn't back him at 18-1. He remains the only horse to win the Ebor under 10st which puts his achievement into perspective. I think if he could have he would have phoned me up and gave me a right b0llocking for daring to doubt him.
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Bertie Wooster
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Soba
Rapid Lad Champion The Wonder Horse |
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Blue Dolphin and Laffy,both trained by Peter Cazalet in the late 50s early 60s,they were nothing special but still have fond memories of them winning round Lingfield and Hurst Park.
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patsyone
04 Apr 12 11:30 Joined: 06 Jan 02 | Topic/replies: 615 | Blogger: patsyone's blog AMHARULLA Trained by JOHN THORNE 100 PLUS runs never won MY number SQUIGGLE in Timeform but for me did his best, Sorry was not trained by John Thorne,think it was John Bridger. |
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Many of these average horses from yesteryear mentioned were followed with a keen ear (commentaries) and reading about them in the Sporting Life/Chronicle, as TV coverage was nothing like it is today, so the mediocre performers like Toirdealbhach didn't appear on TV too much.
I remember being baffled (when standing in the bookies) hearing in commentary 'Traylock'  and 'my horse' was bang there in contention!  I recall him having a string of 3rd & 4th placings to his name - am I dreaming about 10 or 12? As for Kilbrittain Castle...he popped up on TV quite a bit as he seemed to run at every Sandown meeting, which were often covered. I have a recollection that Pauli is right about him being a light year behind in one race at Sandown, and coming through to win from an impossible position, though I'm sure he was an habitual front-running 2M chaser, as Motley suspects. It's very difficult to remember the colours of the supporting cast that rarely made the TV, and I have a vague memory that Toirdealbhach sported light blue colours (help anyone ) and Kilbrittain Castle had a brown checked jacket, though I've forgotten whether it was with blue or orange! |
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think it was spelt AMRULLAH
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Schad, Trayloch was light blue with black cap, with tassle on cap.
Kilbrittain Castle was Brown, yellow collar & cuffs, and cap. These colours were worn by the likes of Ten Of Spades, Leckie, and Beau Bob. |
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Barona was another who sported these colours of K Castle, should have said they were Bill Whitbreads.
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Thanks Fab - I've forgotten the owner of Kilbrittain Castle but now you mention those colours, I should remember the owner's name.
Glad I remembered the light blue of Toirdealbhach |
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Whitbread...of course!
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just come in motley,the unsung hero was kevin mooney who got special cargo up in one of the greatest races of all time for the greatest and the queen mother and on a sad note for my pocketbrown chamberlin went wrong on the run in when burrough hill lad won his gold cup even though probably wouldnt have won,still brill to read all new names of favourites
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