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What do you have to gain from hounding people off websites for putting up information?
Who cares if its connections/exchange reading/whispers or even straight from the horses mouth. Let us see what you have to offer rather than just basic trolling |
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No one is being forced to take the Colonels tips, we are all adults here (allegedly) so can make up our own minds whether or not take take advantage of someones obvious knowledge in the sport. If you dont want to take the tips, fair enough but dont diss CT for simply being generous enough with his time & knowledge to post here.
GL with your selection today CT, it looks good, I will be following your tip  GL one & all |
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In the 2.10 Gunner Will carries 2lb overweight ...spencer must be getting fat...2 days in a row
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Unlucky Colonel, eventual winner looks one to follow.
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A 2nd is one just too good in the race, keeping the faith, wd colonel
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unlucky but keep going ,i didnt do it today as i dont like jamie spencer on odds on fav some thing about him i would rather lay him ,but thats just my view but keep going ct your run will get going again
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i feel a winner coming on today?
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Very well done Colonel on your winning run, what was it 20 on the bounce all bookies would have closed your account before you made 10 winners luckly Betfair dont close ANY accounts winners /or losers.
Heres a message to your distractors on here you would need a very good knowledge about this game to find 20 triers on the bounce never mind 20 winners , Its clear The Colonel has that knowledge , All the very best for the future Sir . |
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Heres a message to your distractors on here you would need a very good knowledge about this game to find 20 triers on the bounce never mind 20 winners , Its clear The Colonel has that knowledge , All the very best for the future Sir .
i am a 'distractor' or whatever that is..... you could back the winner of a coin toss 20 times on the bounce , each time @ 5/6 - that in no way makes you sharp. |
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very unlikely ^
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Corbie
Im guessing your either unemployed or ancient? |
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Corbie , first tossing a coin is evens not 5/6 , second picking winners in say a 8 ..9 ..10 plus race is a little bit harder than tossing a coin you should try it
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bit diff to a flip of a coin corbie ,they are not 2 horse races , jealousy is a terrible trait to have ,gl CT and keep up the good work for your followers
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zipper 18 Apr 12 11:08
Corbie , first tossing a coin is evens not 5/6 , second picking winners in say a 8 ..9 ..10 plus race is a little bit harder than tossing a coin you should try it OMG |
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sharp minds
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Corbie if anyone offers 5/6 on the toss of a coin call the Police he must have escaped from somewhere.
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zipper,
you seem to miss my point(s) and the underlying message completely. |
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It doesn't matter at this point about the odds being under or over value, even if it was for a coin toss (which it isn't).
The 20 winners in a row is the key point. If he now posts 20 losers in a row, or over a large number of bets has similar number of winners and losers, then you can investigate whether the bets were value depending on the odds. CT is some way off even breaking even at the moment. I can't see how anyone can detract when someone is still in big profit at levels?? |
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RE the statement above, that "you could back the winner of a coin toss 20 times on the bounce , each time @ 5/6 - that in no way makes you sharp". Leaving aside the fact that, as has been pointed out, the odds are in fact Evens, not 5/6 or anything else, to choose correctly 20 times consecutively comes in at odds of over 1 million to 1. Some feat.
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airto,
im afraid you are missing the point - the fact i was trying to illustrate - that has sailed over the chompers head is that backing winners does not indeed make you sharp. The insertion of the 5/6 was to illustrate the lack of understanding in what value is and how you can identify said value is absent from the OP. people here are also making monumental assumptions that the OP is only playing said selections, which i for one doubt - as knowing the midset of these 'type' of gamblers are indeed driven by the result rather than the concept of value and edge. I realsie you joined the thread late but pointing out that a coin flip is evens and not pick kinda weakens any point you make. The remark about the coin flip was merely a way of pointing out that finding the winner or predicting the outcome of anything 20 times in a row (or indeed posting on a faceless forum without any evidence) can be done without any % edge. |
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I think Corbie is saying that you aren't smart if you back coin tosses at 5/6. This is truth, obviously.
As others have said they aren't coin tosses though, and when you have someone that is running at 90+% strike rate, whether you get best price or a few points lower is really irrelevant. |
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To be correct 20 times on the toss of a coin the odds are 1milliom 48thousands 5 hundred and 76 .. when i went to school
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My point exactly, zipper. You'd have to be either pretty lucky, or pretty smart!
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Corbie, bottom line is whether selections make profit or loss over extended time. This is the best way to see whether you got value. ie the proof is in the pudding.
The problem with your argument is that you are arguing at the wrong time. At the moment, the fact is that CT's picks are value. Maybe in time they won't be, but there's no point trying to talk about value when the facts are telling you otherwise at this moment in time. |
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Lardman,
whether you get best price or a few points lower is really irrelevant. nonsense. You are being sucked in from a tiny sample, this is just a spike - albeit at the start of a profile. To recognise if this will continue and yield you would have to go back and work out each % edge gained on each bet, when he s played, what its returned and of course if this is the only system used. What people will always be blinded by is results - something that has happened, however the method behind these selections have no concept of value or % edge at all - but thats for a different diatribe. Mug mentality dictates that gamblers will always see winners and losers and try and mask figures and long term outlook. |
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Corbie Value now theres a word the only Value is the winner
in horse racing value has seen more Gamblers go Skint than you have had hot dinners  |
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your saying they are value because they have won - which is ridiculous.
zipper and artio, You'd have to be either pretty lucky, or pretty smart! - blinkered idiocy. |
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zipper 18 Apr 12 11:42
Corbie Value now theres a word the only Value is the winner in horse racing value has seen more Gamblers go Skint than you have had hot dinners Wink you know the game mate, ill be in for a dollar on your P and L please. |
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Corbiewood - Thanks for letting me know I'm a blinkered idiot. Wondered how long it would be before the insults started. Now you know why I seldom contribute to threads, just not worth the hassle. I'll leave you to it.
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airto pretty lucky or pretty smart ...or both
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its an assumption to think im calling you personally a blinkered idiot but you carry on.
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airto if you are a smart lucky bar steward people will hate you .. ask corbie
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Corbie I'm not saying value isn't important, or that value is dependant on getting the winner.
I am saying it isn't the best time for you to make the argument, as the fact is that the p/l is running massive profit for this albeit small sample at this moment in time. And that SO FAR, whether you got best price or a bit lower has been smallfry on this sample, as it is running such profit. |
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lardman,
im sorry but my argument may be weakened to the fawning masses who can only see winners but id go the other way - a punter like this would be getting the treatment if he played with me (especially the made up stakes he has indicated)- a punter who demonstrates he has no concept of value or percentage edge and who plays into stale and robust markets should be encouraged to bet more. |
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its nice to see C.T. aint getting involved with two planks this morning
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Two planks reminds me of Dennis Wise.......could start an argument in an empty room.
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Your dead right pete de thats zip off to find losers for the K/C thread , leaving theses two planks (corbie and lardman) to argue between themselfs
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But it is horse for courses, (literally), as people can find their edge in lots of different ways. For some, they can play percentages finding value, others can spot IR value, others can see antepost value, others get training info, some like to look at breeding, others look at the phsyical side of the horse, others can just see a winner. A person may be brilliant at one thing and terrible at the others. They may not care about the other things as it detracts from what they know about. To criticise how someone finds a winner is daft as it will be different for every single person. That is the beauty of the game. All you can do is take your hat off when people are correct and be happy if your judgement makes you what you want it to make you.
If you know a winner and you are correct 90% of the time, you will almost certainly show a profit. At the moment, CT is finding winners in some way, and posting them up for others to follow or not. CT is running big profit in the thread. |
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"Your dead right pete de thats zip off to find losers for the K/C thread , leaving theses two planks (corbie and lardman) to argue between themselfs"
hehe My last post on here. |
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walofs
anything today CT? |