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Went to take the 6s about Oscar Whiskey only to find that R4 applies (no mention of R4 in the advert in RP).
They have been NRNB on the race AP rules apply.
They have Quevega and Zaidpour at 12s who are not intended runners and several doubtful runners at 14s. The 6s will disappear come racetime.
This is the worst example of all the High st scams yet.
They have been NRNB on the race AP rules apply.
They have Quevega and Zaidpour at 12s who are not intended runners and several doubtful runners at 14s. The 6s will disappear come racetime.
This is the worst example of all the High st scams yet.
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if it is too good to be true..............
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They are sponsoring the Supreme Novice Hurdle they need to get there money back somehow.
Filthy lot they are. |
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Why has it not kicked off on twitter yet?
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You can still back car 4 in the virtual car racing though.
Wm Hill is only an amusement arcade now. |
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Complete scam if they do R4 on an Ante Post bet!
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This cannot be true. If it is true and they admit it there should be a smear campaign all over twitter, RP etc. But still don't believe it can be true.
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anti post NO RULE 4 just because you go nr no bet does not mean you can change anti post rules I.E. no rule 4
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Can't be true.........
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if that is the case i will never set foot in a hills shop or place a bet on their site again
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big splash yest bout fly 5/4...max ton tho...massive advertising campaign
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trying to get all the mugs to sign up for a new account, just in time for Cheltenham.
restrict and close down the shrewd ones after the meeting. |
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When Ladbr0kes went NRNB on the Gold Cup a while back there was a 'Rule 4 may apply at our discretion' proviso at the bottom of the prices. This is even worse imo...
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Surely just a mistake that "rule 4 may apply" on their screens.
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Can't believe this is true. Who told you a R4 would apply ? It would be a blatent scam if they did this.
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Trying to find out from the SIS guys if its an error!
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confirmed R4 exempt
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Does that mean you could get hit with a r4 if you now take the 9/2?
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There is no r4 on these ffs - just a load of sh1tst1rring by the usual suspects
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trust me there is a rule 4 reduction.They are advertising one horse each day best price non runner no bet but it is rule 4 rules
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Can someone tell me weather there is a R4 or not I was shown the screen in the shop which said R4 will apply.
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I can't see how they could be taking a R4 because no-one would be betting with them if they are. It's not just the enhanced price horses, it would also apply to anything else you might back eg. you aren't going to back Grand Crus in the Gold Cup with them in case there is a R4 if Kauto Star is a NR.
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If this the case then you must bet with Paddy who explicitly states that R4 will not apply. Generally going the best prices about the favs anyway. Shame they all can't be as clear as to what happens if there is a non-runner.
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Price Format :
Tues 3:20 - Champion Hurdle (Bet until : 11 Mar 12 10:00) Selection Price Hurricane Fly 4/5 Binocular 5/1 Zarkandar 5/1 Rock On Ruby 10/1 Oscars Well 12/1 Peddlers Cross 16/1 Thousand Stars 20/1 Overturn 25/1 So Young 25/1 Staying Article 33/1 Zaidpour 33/1 Brampour 40/1 Final Approach 40/1 Mikael d'Haguenet 40/1 Celestial Halo 50/1 Starluck 50/1 Kalann 66/1 Olofi 66/1 Clerk's Choice 100/1 1/4 Odds Place 1,2,3 Non Runner Money Back Just taken from billys web site No mention of Rule4  |
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Corals also explicitly state no R4.
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That's about a 143% book, though.
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Sorry i'm still trying to work out how they can rule 4 an ante-post market. The very notion is impossible surely. Rule 4 is only applicable after final declarations. End of.
If they want to offer silly prices nrnb, that is their look out, but rule 4 can't be used as a get out clause. |
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Im confused guys -The bet I had today was on OWhiskey at 6s. I was told that its NRNB BUT R4a will apply.
I did not ask about any other so called AP prices. Can anyone confirm that it was some sort of error. I did see the R4 message on the screen. |
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Tucho 06 Mar 12 17:58
Sorry i'm still trying to work out how they can rule 4 an ante-post market The whole essence of AP is if your horse does not run you do your dough, if they are saying NRNB then in my mind it is no longer an anti post bet, just because there is a week to go your still in AP mode, once stakes are returned for a NR then the AP factor goes out the window as far as I am concerned. The fact some bookies are not doing Rule 4 could be construed as a concession. |
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Even Kate Miller and Graham Sharpe don't appear to know 100% about this going off what they say on twitter
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looks like hills are not winning the public over with there sharp practices. joke firm. Paddy Power puts proper offers on for proper periods, ffs its cheltenham you cant lose
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can they imply r4s on non declared runners? does anyone now Hills rules regarding R4s
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a bloke has asked Miller on twitter and she gives a condescending response (as usual) and then says she is only fairly certain.
The World Hurdle is not classed as ante-post on the Hills site either. |
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Fairly certain which way, cadizza ? R4 or not ?
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Oh dear!!! William Hill will be turning in his grave. another shoot themselves in the foot from hills PR team
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John:
R4 on these offers your offering on a ante post market?? Miller: No Sir, why on earth would you think that? Ante-post is ante-post. Fairly certain we can't take a R4 until after final decs. |
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It would appear people would think that because you had it on your screens today Miss Miller but as per usual Hills cannot accept that they made an error.
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thought so !!! rule 4 applies only after final decs. The hills shop staff are only good at emptying machines
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Somebody asked Kate Miller on twitter. She's put it to bed there. There's no such thing as rule 4 before final declarations. If you've got 6/1 on Oscar Whiskey, it can't be adjusted by rule 4.
Darren Williams @Wills009 @racingkate - R4 on these offers your offering on a ante post market?? William Hill @racingkate @Wills009 - No Sir, why on earth would you think that? Ante-post is ante-post. Fairly certain we can't take a R4 until after final decs. |
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It is the way she replies to the bloke Tucho - no need for her manner. I see she used to work in "late payment collection" for Amex - a role I am certain she will of loved!
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