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By:
Facts
When: 07 Mar 12 18:25
not to be told the same thing by you 7 times imo Happy
By:
rawcs2012
When: 07 Mar 12 18:28
theres worse things going on in the world facts,chill out son
By:
Steamship
When: 07 Mar 12 22:30
I see that Willoughby gave it a good mention tonight on RUK and before you say it I know Willoughby is not that into NH
By:
herblington
When: 07 Mar 12 22:37
to be fair to Acey Deucy he shot me down last year when I fancies this nag and for me its once bitten, twice shy. Its form at Wetherby is at best very, very average and it won a very weak grade 2 at Cheltenham when you look at what chased it home. Throw in Costello who is on a nightmare run and I think this nag is a great place lay..............
By:
rawcs2012
When: 08 Mar 12 02:46
for once you spoke with a bit of common sense herblington
By:
DirtyLeeds1919
When: 08 Mar 12 08:24
His last run at the Argento

http://horses.sportinglife.com/Video/Racing/0,27770,480826_4,00.html

very impressive
By:
rawcs2012
When: 08 Mar 12 11:18
wont be in the first 3 (facts) Wink
By:
cruise d
When: 08 Mar 12 15:02
That Argento form is not good though really. Being 9lb or so better than Tiday Bay at this stage of his career is not Gold Cup placing form IMO. It wasn't last year and Tidal certainly hasn't improved any.

Midnight Chase is a great horse and a lovely one to follow. I hope everyone gets a good run for their money but I think it's playing for 5th/6th or 7th IMO. What is different this year to last year to make it place or gain the 8 lengths it needs to catch What a friend?
By:
geoff m
When: 08 Mar 12 15:08
to dark to risk
By:
rawcs2012
When: 08 Mar 12 19:02
spot on cruise d
By:
FELTFAIR
When: 08 Mar 12 20:30
Confirmation of Entry stage + any supplementation midday Saturday March 10th may help to crystallise opinions. Though a few trainers will keep their options open till the last minute.
By:
Facts
When: 08 Mar 12 20:41
rawcs2012     08 Mar 12 11:18 
wont be in the first 3 (facts)


chill out son
By:
Steamship
When: 08 Mar 12 21:56
rawcs has Mullholland,Costello or Midnight Chase offended you in the past? I reckon you've backed it and are thinking of going in again and want to kee
By:
rawcs2012
When: 08 Mar 12 23:38
steamship,i put it up as a nap many moons ago before he was well known and he scooted in at cheltenham and ive always liked the horse.but i honestly think its gonna be exactly the same as last year for him as its the same scenario once more.

facts, chill out sonLove
By:
DirtyLeeds1919
When: 09 Mar 12 04:08
For all those saying it's gonna be the same as last year, Long Run has gotten progressively worse, massive question marks over Kauto's fitness and there's absolutely nothing to split the rest of the field.

I'm quietly confident
By:
rawcs2012
When: 09 Mar 12 11:38
you wont be afterwards
By:
FELTFAIR
When: 09 Mar 12 16:48
Grands Crus is 13/1 on Betfair for Gold Cup compared to bookmakers general 6/1. He is 5/2 for the RSA on Betfair. This says to me that punters believe he`ll go for the latter. Can only think Pipe and connections are waiting for last minute defections from the Gold Cup.
By:
DirtyLeeds1919
When: 09 Mar 12 18:26
That's very interesting indeed about Grands Crus
By:
FELTFAIR
When: 09 Mar 12 20:03
Wincanton gallop went well for Kauto but Nicholls is still not going to make a decision till Monday after more work.
By:
DirtyLeeds1919
When: 10 Mar 12 07:16
C'MON THE CHASE!!!!!!
By:
rawcs2012
When: 10 Mar 12 09:39
Cry
By:
DirtyLeeds1919
When: 10 Mar 12 10:11
I can FEEL it
By:
rawcs2012
When: 10 Mar 12 10:15
you will go blind
By:
Duncster
When: 10 Mar 12 13:34
Think he's good value against the top two. Trainer states he is much better form than last year, only thing is, no 10year old has prevailed since Cool Dawn.  If he runs, Junior could be good ew value at 66/1
By:
DirtyLeeds1919
When: 10 Mar 12 14:54
Agree Junior is too big
By:
FELTFAIR
When: 10 Mar 12 15:02
Will not run,not in the 19 acceptors.
By:
FELTFAIR
When: 10 Mar 12 20:19
Down to 18 runners as Medermit goes for Ryannair.
By:
rawcs2012
When: 10 Mar 12 22:26
blimey guys let me ring some trainers up and get them to pull 15 horses out so that you can come on here and say "i told you he would get in the first three`  jeeez it wont be placed end of
By:
herblington
When: 11 Mar 12 00:35
Never thought I would see the day but me and RAWCS are in total agreement on this, Midnight Chase wont finish in the first 6 and is the best place lay of the whole festival with NO, I repeat NO risk. Trainer is very average, form of nag very very average and Costello is on an whole time low of incompetence, so my advice is load up the machine, fall asleep for 3 days and then press LAY, LAY, LAy for a place..........
By:
DirtyLeeds1919
When: 11 Mar 12 12:58
Boooooooooo
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 11 Mar 12 13:44
Will trade bigger inrunning...guaranteed.

you have to remember this is the gold cup, huge liquidity and big money in running players. his price will not shorten in the early to middle sections of the race because the money will be there. If anything it might get bigger as people trade on other horses like Kauto and Long Run. As the enter the final circuit then this is where it will get interesting....assuming Midnight Chase is still in front his price will fluctuate wildly in a very very short frame of time....Initially the money will queue up to lay him as Kauto and Long Run apply pressure...maybe even Quel Esprit. The layers will be cutting their throats...all looking to lay the hell out him at as short a price as they can (in the hope) that as the race progresses he folds. You'll see plenty of stuff available between 15s and 20s for him before the money dries up and then you pinch a bit of 50s....even 70s in running while still be being bang there in front. Flip side to this...just as fast as the price went out...it will come back in.

I'll be looking to pinch a bit in running at the bigger prices...we all know how much heart this horse has...even when looking beaten on the front he will fight back. If you're not the greedy type and looking to add profit onto your other selections or the field then you can excel with this fella.

good luck.
By:
DirtyLeeds1919
When: 11 Mar 12 17:25
Top post @ EastLower Gooner
By:
FELTFAIR
When: 11 Mar 12 19:45
Not sure he will want to lead with The Giant Bolster in the field. He normally goes off like a scalded cat.If Midnight has any chance at all it will be to get into a nice rhythm and then hope for the best. As previously indicated I think connections would be delighted with fourth ,anything else would be a real bonus.I feel it is impossible to see past the front two unless Grands Crus turns up and spoils the party. Overall it will all be history this time next week.
By:
DirtyLeeds1919
When: 12 Mar 12 07:19
Is a decision to be made on Grands Crus entry today?
By:
FELTFAIR
When: 12 Mar 12 17:29
Kauto in Grands Crus out. So expect a small contraction in prices with the big firms less so with Betfair.A few more to come out I would think,Poquelin for example, around 13-14 runners I am guessing.
By:
DirtyLeeds1919
When: 12 Mar 12 18:25
Kauto out?
By:
Facts
When: 12 Mar 12 18:29
^??
By:
rawcs2012
When: 12 Mar 12 19:26
please Betfair introduce a `delete button` for topics we are bored with
By:
Facts
When: 12 Mar 12 19:51
and forumites ?Laugh
By:
rawcs2012
When: 12 Mar 12 23:01
very true facts!  Wink
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