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not to be told the same thing by you 7 times imo
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theres worse things going on in the world facts,chill out son
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I see that Willoughby gave it a good mention tonight on RUK and before you say it I know Willoughby is not that into NH
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to be fair to Acey Deucy he shot me down last year when I fancies this nag and for me its once bitten, twice shy. Its form at Wetherby is at best very, very average and it won a very weak grade 2 at Cheltenham when you look at what chased it home. Throw in Costello who is on a nightmare run and I think this nag is a great place lay..............
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for once you spoke with a bit of common sense herblington
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His last run at the Argento
http://horses.sportinglife.com/Video/Racing/0,27770,480826_4,00.html very impressive |
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wont be in the first 3 (facts)
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That Argento form is not good though really. Being 9lb or so better than Tiday Bay at this stage of his career is not Gold Cup placing form IMO. It wasn't last year and Tidal certainly hasn't improved any.
Midnight Chase is a great horse and a lovely one to follow. I hope everyone gets a good run for their money but I think it's playing for 5th/6th or 7th IMO. What is different this year to last year to make it place or gain the 8 lengths it needs to catch What a friend? |
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to dark to risk
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spot on cruise d
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Confirmation of Entry stage + any supplementation midday Saturday March 10th may help to crystallise opinions. Though a few trainers will keep their options open till the last minute.
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rawcs2012 08 Mar 12 11:18
wont be in the first 3 (facts) chill out son |
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rawcs has Mullholland,Costello or Midnight Chase offended you in the past? I reckon you've backed it and are thinking of going in again and want to kee
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steamship,i put it up as a nap many moons ago before he was well known and he scooted in at cheltenham and ive always liked the horse.but i honestly think its gonna be exactly the same as last year for him as its the same scenario once more.
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For all those saying it's gonna be the same as last year, Long Run has gotten progressively worse, massive question marks over Kauto's fitness and there's absolutely nothing to split the rest of the field.
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you wont be afterwards
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Grands Crus is 13/1 on Betfair for Gold Cup compared to bookmakers general 6/1. He is 5/2 for the RSA on Betfair. This says to me that punters believe he`ll go for the latter. Can only think Pipe and connections are waiting for last minute defections from the Gold Cup.
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That's very interesting indeed about Grands Crus
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Wincanton gallop went well for Kauto but Nicholls is still not going to make a decision till Monday after more work.
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C'MON THE CHASE!!!!!!
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I can FEEL it
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you will go blind
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Think he's good value against the top two. Trainer states he is much better form than last year, only thing is, no 10year old has prevailed since Cool Dawn. If he runs, Junior could be good ew value at 66/1
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Agree Junior is too big
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Will not run,not in the 19 acceptors.
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Down to 18 runners as Medermit goes for Ryannair.
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blimey guys let me ring some trainers up and get them to pull 15 horses out so that you can come on here and say "i told you he would get in the first three` jeeez it wont be placed end of
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Never thought I would see the day but me and RAWCS are in total agreement on this, Midnight Chase wont finish in the first 6 and is the best place lay of the whole festival with NO, I repeat NO risk. Trainer is very average, form of nag very very average and Costello is on an whole time low of incompetence, so my advice is load up the machine, fall asleep for 3 days and then press LAY, LAY, LAy for a place..........
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Boooooooooo
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Will trade bigger inrunning...guaranteed.
you have to remember this is the gold cup, huge liquidity and big money in running players. his price will not shorten in the early to middle sections of the race because the money will be there. If anything it might get bigger as people trade on other horses like Kauto and Long Run. As the enter the final circuit then this is where it will get interesting....assuming Midnight Chase is still in front his price will fluctuate wildly in a very very short frame of time....Initially the money will queue up to lay him as Kauto and Long Run apply pressure...maybe even Quel Esprit. The layers will be cutting their throats...all looking to lay the hell out him at as short a price as they can (in the hope) that as the race progresses he folds. You'll see plenty of stuff available between 15s and 20s for him before the money dries up and then you pinch a bit of 50s....even 70s in running while still be being bang there in front. Flip side to this...just as fast as the price went out...it will come back in. I'll be looking to pinch a bit in running at the bigger prices...we all know how much heart this horse has...even when looking beaten on the front he will fight back. If you're not the greedy type and looking to add profit onto your other selections or the field then you can excel with this fella. good luck. |
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Top post @ EastLower Gooner
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Not sure he will want to lead with The Giant Bolster in the field. He normally goes off like a scalded cat.If Midnight has any chance at all it will be to get into a nice rhythm and then hope for the best. As previously indicated I think connections would be delighted with fourth ,anything else would be a real bonus.I feel it is impossible to see past the front two unless Grands Crus turns up and spoils the party. Overall it will all be history this time next week.
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Is a decision to be made on Grands Crus entry today?
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Kauto in Grands Crus out. So expect a small contraction in prices with the big firms less so with Betfair.A few more to come out I would think,Poquelin for example, around 13-14 runners I am guessing.
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Kauto out?
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^??
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please Betfair introduce a `delete button` for topics we are bored with
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and forumites ?
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very true facts!
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