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Deltâ
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last ten years below - average required is 179 wins

    Year        wins   
    2011        165   
    2010        191   
    2009        174   
    2008        186   
    2007        190   
    2006        180   
    2005        163   
    2004        192   
    2003        210   
    2002        144   
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Report Nirnaeth Arnoediad September 2, 2012 12:48 PM BST
Nirnaeth Arnoediad 28 Mar 12 15:52 Joined: 09 Jul 02 | Topic/replies: 456 | Blogger: Nirnaeth Arnoediad's blog
Hughes and Buick are my 2 selections Delta, keep up the good work.


I think I called most things right on this thread, if I do say so myself.LaughDevil
Report wee eck September 2, 2012 3:10 PM BST
I have just backed Hughes again at 1-9 seems like money for old rope to me,

hope it does not turn out to be famous last words.
Report wee eck September 2, 2012 3:24 PM BST
To put this jockey thing into context will some one hazard a guess and

inform me who is the next jockey to hit a 100 going to be and when will it

be, that is the important part of the question.
Report Nirnaeth Arnoediad September 2, 2012 4:32 PM BST
Buick will be next to 100 as SDS is missing 6 days.
However it won't be till September 18th
Report wee eck September 2, 2012 4:36 PM BST
Nirnaeth, where will Hughes be by then? out of sight.
Report Nirnaeth Arnoediad September 2, 2012 4:51 PM BST
Oh definitely wee eck. I'm hoping for an early payout sometime in the next couple of weeks Devil
Report outtheframe September 2, 2012 7:36 PM BST
Bookmakers should be paying out already..
Report outtheframe September 3, 2012 3:25 PM BST
Just spoke to a good friend who speaks to loads of people at the Hannon yard. He says that Hannon Sr is happy with his horses for the first time this season this week. They have not been firing properly and he is now convinced they have all come to hand.

Scary thought for anyone racing one of his decent ones. They are still imporving too!

That means well handicapped horses for anything that has a mark already. Follow him in nursurys for sure...

Hughes will be 40 clear of SDS within 2 weeks. I've also been told Moore wont be riding again this season..
Report Clarky9 September 3, 2012 7:53 PM BST
2-1 to SDS today
Report Roger De Bris September 3, 2012 7:59 PM BST
Hughes 1/66 now...they may as well pay out...
I jumped on board at 1/2...
Report outtheframe September 4, 2012 8:30 AM BST
Does anyone know where to find exact dates of jockey bans?
Report Deltâ September 4, 2012 10:51 AM BST
anyone in particular >?
Report Clarky9 September 4, 2012 11:38 AM BST
Back of racing post
Report Nirnaeth Arnoediad September 4, 2012 11:43 AM BST
http://www.britishhorseracing.com/resources/about/whatwedo/disciplinary/stew...
Report outtheframe September 4, 2012 8:14 PM BST
Just wanted to know the exact dates of Hughes and De Sousa bans?
Report gambler no.1 September 4, 2012 9:04 PM BST
Hughes off Sept 14 & 15
sds off Sept 6 7 9 10 11 12 @ 16
Report gambler no.1 September 4, 2012 9:05 PM BST
That should be & 16
Report outtheframe September 5, 2012 2:39 PM BST
Thanks
Report outtheframe September 5, 2012 7:41 PM BST
So Hughes 25 clear of SDS. Moore wont be riding for the rest of the season.

SDS has ridden an average of 18 winners a month.

He has 6 days off this month and has said he might need a couple more off after his ankle injury today.

The numbers dont lie. If Hughes got injured tomorrow and SDS rode at the same rate he has all season he would only win by about 10 winners.

Thats if Hughes didnt win another race this season!..

How can you still get 8% on your money on the exchanges? Madness.

Add to that Julie Woods horse is supposed to hack up in the 8pm to add to his win tally, he worked like a machine last week.
Report queen bee September 5, 2012 7:46 PM BST
Tipped hughes at start and fanning for hdcp.
Really hope he wins it as think he is an all round superior jockey to sds.
Report ribero1 September 5, 2012 8:06 PM BST
agree queen bee,been at home quite a bit recently and watched them both in action a lot and hughes is a much,much better jockey,look no further than the race de sousa has just won even allowing for his mount's greenness.
Report Clarky9 September 5, 2012 8:10 PM BST
Why don't you take everything in the box outtheframe if it is such free money?
Report wee eck September 5, 2012 10:00 PM BST
I have rebacked Hughes last week on here at 1-9 seemed money for old rope to me.
Report Willow1966 September 5, 2012 10:19 PM BST
@ribero1: "hughes is a much,much better jockey,look no further than the race de sousa has just won even allowing for his mount's greenness."

Love it ! lol
Report Willow1966 September 5, 2012 10:28 PM BST
Has anyone got access to the jockey stats as of this day last year re: jockeys winners ?
Report Deltâ September 6, 2012 7:12 AM BST
not here, but might as well post lasted PJA ones for this year so we got them for next!

Jockey    Wins    Rides    Strike Rate    Win Prize    Total Prize
Richard Hughes    116    579    20%    £947,860    £1,371,380
Ryan Moore    102    528    19%    £1,379,943    £2,215,613
Silvestre De Sousa    92    632    15%    £558,088    £854,836
William Buick    89    487    18%    £1,781,020    £2,724,946
Paul Hanagan    78    515    15%    £690,560    £1,122,113
Joe Fanning    78    522    15%    £448,356    £641,971
Jim Crowley    71    429    17%    £467,221    £652,347
James Doyle    65    415    16%    £361,541    £619,535
Kieren Fallon    64    461    14%    £652,138    £997,458
Daniel Tudhope    60    353    17%    £375,945    £505,225
Report Deltâ September 6, 2012 7:14 AM BST
out of interest, heres the APP too

Darren Egan     34     291     12%     -8.50     £186,435     £253,848
Raul Da Silva     29     229     13%     +37.16     £107,007     £136,614
Amy Ryan     28     232     12%     -20.58     £138,349     £202,632
Sean Levey     25     202     12%     -17.54     £75,637     £126,798
Harry Bentley     24     200     12%     -17.77     £101,521     £196,178
Lee Topliss     20     177     11%     -71.21     £70,958     £121,390
Adam Beschizza     20     183     11%     -47.47     £64,316     £101,185
Michael J M Murphy     19     65     29%     +99.93     £83,606     £101,079
George Downing     13     58     22%     +38.03     £27,907     £33,923
Charles bishop     12     82     15%     +8.95     £57,988     £74,084
Report queen bee September 6, 2012 7:30 AM BST
Delta a stats magican Love
Report outtheframe September 6, 2012 9:36 PM BST
Bet365 go 1/100

1% on your money anyone? They should be paying out..
Report wee eck September 6, 2012 9:55 PM BST
outtheframe on here there is £460 to back at 1.12 I cant take it as not fluid at

the moment but to me it seems virtually a no or little risk investment.
Report Deltâ September 6, 2012 10:06 PM BST
gone now wee eck Happy
Report wee eck September 6, 2012 10:14 PM BST
Delta, did you snaffle it up?
Report Deltâ September 6, 2012 10:15 PM BST
a gift

hope it wasnt you trading ExcitedShocked
Report wee eck September 6, 2012 10:20 PM BST
Delta no it was not me trading, actually a day or so ago I

backed Hughes again at 1-9, I have been trying to think of

ways where he might not win this thing and apart from his

getting hurt or retiring in the very near future I cant.
Report Deltâ September 6, 2012 10:23 PM BST
1.08 last priced matched now wee eck - and someone already done 1.04


happy days
Report wee eck September 6, 2012 10:36 PM BST
Next season if I guess right I will be a millionaireGrinGrinGrin
Report Clarky9 September 6, 2012 11:04 PM BST
I have next year's winner already... Cool
Report broadsword September 7, 2012 8:58 PM BST
if sds cant win ....could someone please take my £300 @ 18/1.................cheers in advance
Report Deltâ September 7, 2012 9:12 PM BST
which is clarky9? ...
Report Clarky9 September 7, 2012 9:17 PM BST
I will tell you when you ask everyone again in March my friend...
Report Deltâ September 7, 2012 9:18 PM BST
fair doos!
Report gambler no.1 September 8, 2012 11:25 AM BST
Broadsword-I'd love to help but my belly is full, and I suspect most people who follow this thread are the same. You could start a new
"Arb alert" thread pointing out that he can be laid at 18/1 on here then backed at 20/1 with 365.
Report broadsword September 8, 2012 1:44 PM BST
"hello 365...can i have £300 on sds at 20s please?"
  ah hello broad......yes you can have £3 at 20s....the rest at 14/1 ........me thinks
Report gambler no.1 September 8, 2012 1:53 PM BST
Sorry for wasting your time.But I notice you've taken the bet down anyway.
Report broadsword September 8, 2012 2:20 PM BST
hughesie won the 1st innit
Report wee eck September 8, 2012 2:25 PM BST
Hughes looks nailed on to ride 140 winners and with that being the case what

of the chasers is likely, with 8 weeks of the season left, to emulate this?

              Looks to my tired old Eyes mission impossible.
Report Nirnaeth Arnoediad September 8, 2012 5:13 PM BST
Blimey, 140 is a bit conservative wee eck. With the form of the Hannon horses, plus the decent outside rides he's getting, I'd have easily north of 150 as my fav. Shocked

Those nice bookie chappies could do us all a favour and pay out now eh Love
Report wee eck September 8, 2012 5:28 PM BST
Nirnaeth, they could but I am sure the firms I am on with wont, never mind something to

look forward to.   I will be preparing my short list for next years event and I say now

W Buick will not be on it but Barzolona most definitely will. Cheers, now hoping Woods comes

up trumps in the American Golf.
Report Deltâ September 8, 2012 5:30 PM BST
G Lee, wee eck?
Report wee eck September 8, 2012 5:47 PM BST
No, Delta definitely not, have another inspired guess.Grin
Report Deltâ September 8, 2012 6:00 PM BST
to be fair we will have to wait for the Autumn/Spring Jockeys merry-go-round to finish first
Report wee eck September 8, 2012 6:08 PM BST
Delta it is great fun trying to sort it out, pity about having to have stacks of cash

to lay out for 8 months or so
Report outtheframe September 9, 2012 12:01 PM BST
In another 7-10 days it will be statistically improbable for Hughes to get beaten.

By that I mean SDS could ride to the same 15% that he has ridden all season and still not beat Hughes even if Hughes didn't ride another winner.

I think at that point bookies will pay out. Looking at near the end of the month..

How any price is available on exchanges is unbeliable. I would have it but it makes no difference to me now. Whats the point of trying to knick a few quid when I have £10K coming back already.
Report Deltâ September 10, 2012 2:40 PM BST
Hughes kicks off the day with another winner..
Report outtheframe September 10, 2012 8:23 PM BST
I heard Ladbrokes are paying out on Hughes. Is this true?
Report outtheframe September 11, 2012 8:11 PM BST
I heard Ladbrokes are paying out on Hughes. Is this true?
Report Clarky9 September 11, 2012 9:02 PM BST
Nothing in my account yet...
Report outtheframe September 13, 2012 8:29 AM BST
Hughes with 11 rides today! Looks like at least a couple of winners, with some luck maybe 4.
Report outtheframe September 13, 2012 8:20 PM BST
Hughes 31 clear. Bet365 closed market.. Nuff said. PAYOUT ****S...
Report broadsword September 13, 2012 8:39 PM BST
still over 8 weeks left.....so still could be beat....but i hope not
Report outtheframe September 15, 2012 5:01 PM BST
Dont agree with that broadsword.

Today is pretty much the day where SDS can't win.

He has ridden at 15% all season. If he rides the same number of horses per week for the last 8 weeks he will ride 30 winners.

In the 26 weeks of the season so far SDS has ridden an average of 25 runners a week @ 15% win rate.

If he rides 26 runners a week for the last 8 weeks @ 15% he will ride 30 winners.

Hughes is 32 clear.

Hughes wins this year even if he doesnt ride another winner.

Bookies should be paying out.
Report broadsword September 15, 2012 5:19 PM BST
not past sds to get 35 in last 8 weeks if needed...say for arguments sake if hughes picked up an injury
Report outtheframe September 15, 2012 5:47 PM BST
If you are saying that its statistically possilbe then obviously it is.

What odds that hughes doesnt ride another winner all season and SDS rides above his season percentage in the weakest part of the season?

Oh and add that Hannon is on fire and SDS isnt even 1st jockey for Johnston.

Personally I think it's 1.01
Report broadsword September 15, 2012 5:59 PM BST
of course if hughes doesnt pick up an injury (hope not) then hes going to win...but these things can happen
and he probably should be shorter than he is on here
btw.....seb sanders rode  31winners in one month towards the end of his battle with spencer
Report outtheframe September 18, 2012 5:27 PM BST
Love it, Franny Norton firing in the winners for Johnston and SDS stuck on Godolphin third string runners...

It's almost like the Shiekh Mo has lumped on Hughes for the title!...

Hughes fires in 2 more winnners with Hannon runners just about in top form. I have been told that Hannon has at least 20 2 year olds that they think will win once or twice before the end of thier season on thier current hanidcap marks. AND They still have around 15 newcomers that they think are nailed on to win first time out...

Bookmakers can't hold out for long. PAY UP!...
Report broadsword September 18, 2012 6:07 PM BST
money buyer steps in with 25k at 1.03
Report peeler September 18, 2012 6:09 PM BST
frame why do you love it--it['s none of your business what sds with his career
Report outtheframe September 18, 2012 7:31 PM BST
It's not personal. SDS is a good jockey. Nothing better than that though.

I'm just happy that Hughes has won this thing in a canter despite the JC banning him unfairly for a month at the start of the season.

I've got £10K coming back and thats all im worried about...
Report outtheframe September 18, 2012 7:36 PM BST
I'm suprised there is any price available. 1% is good for 6 weeks interest. Better than any savings account!...
Report Begginersluck September 19, 2012 1:53 PM BST
100K traded on Hughes at 1.03!

I guess it works out at around 22% APR. That is better than any savigns account! And more chance of a bank going bust than Hughes not winning the title!!!
Report Nirnaeth Arnoediad September 19, 2012 4:50 PM BST
3 day ban for De Sousa.

The fat lady has finished singing and is now in the bar chatting up the piano player. Laugh
Report Deltâ September 19, 2012 5:07 PM BST
sandown treble
Report wee eck September 19, 2012 5:59 PM BST
Delta this year looks done and dusted, what price will Hughes be

next year to repeat the feat?
Report outtheframe September 19, 2012 6:21 PM BST
4 wins for Hughes and still some good rides at kempton.... Agree that it's time for bookies to pay out.. bookies love the free publicity anyway, it wont be long..
Report outtheframe September 19, 2012 6:23 PM BST
no bookmakers offering prices anymore.

Hughes 1.01 on exchange. any price you wont on the rest of the field!
Report broadsword September 19, 2012 7:33 PM BST
FIVE.....surprised the 1.02 column isnt full
Report outtheframe September 22, 2012 9:49 AM BST
Paddypower and Bet365 paying out already.
Report outtheframe September 22, 2012 9:49 AM BST
Why not the big guns?
Report wee eck September 22, 2012 9:51 AM BST
outoftheframe, are you sure about PP paying out?
Report outtheframe September 22, 2012 10:05 AM BST
Correction: Paddypower and Betvictor. Just watched the morning line again and Nick Luck said they are paying out.
Report wee eck September 22, 2012 10:07 AM BST
outoftheframe will have to look at my account to see if I

have been credited.
Report outtheframe September 22, 2012 10:07 AM BST
Just spoke to a very rude person as Ladbrokes and she said they will not be paying out until the 10th Nov. Utter cr*p

Feel free to call or email them and give then same hassle.

Please take a couple of minutes to give a bookmaker that should know better some stick...

care@ladbrokes.com
0800 731 6191
Report wee eck September 22, 2012 11:02 AM BST
Fair play to Paddy Power just looked at my account and they have credited me

with £1650 which in reality I am not entitled to till 2nd week in Nov. if all

goes well.
Report Deltâ September 22, 2012 11:21 AM BST
WD wee eck
Report wee eck September 22, 2012 11:31 AM BST
Delta, A repeat performance would be welcome next year.Grin

Best of luck to you my friend.
Report Begginersluck September 23, 2012 10:53 AM BST
Can't believe that there are people still trying to get a bet layed...

Bookmakers have already paid out!
Report Deltâ September 23, 2012 2:08 PM BST
outtheframe 22 Sep 12 10:07 
Just spoke to a very rude person as Ladbrokes and she said they will not be paying out until the 10th Nov. Utter cr*p

Feel free to call or email them and give then same hassle.

Please take a couple of minutes to give a bookmaker that should know better some stick...

care@ladbrokes.com
0800 731 6191
Report Begginersluck September 24, 2012 3:48 PM BST
£15K availalbe @ 1.02
Report Begginersluck September 25, 2012 2:25 PM BST
£15K taken instantly...


No price available now.
Report Begginersluck September 26, 2012 12:36 PM BST
Betfred become latest firm to pay out jockeys' title

Betfred have just revealed they are paying out on Richard Hughes as the winner of this year's Flat jockeys championship.

He leads by 41 and spokesman Andrew Griffiths said: "Richard Hughes is home and hosed as far as we're concerned."
Report Begginersluck September 26, 2012 12:46 PM BST
Hilarious that people still trying to get bets laid on Moore!...
Report Roger De Bris September 26, 2012 12:54 PM BST
still waiting for Boyles....
Report outtheframe September 26, 2012 1:09 PM BST
I'm still waiting for Laddies.
Report outtheframe September 26, 2012 1:11 PM BST
Anyone thats bored give laddies a call and ask then why they havnet paid out on Hughes yet..

Ladbrokes 'customer service'. Its free to call and you cant give enough stick to bookmakers, they deserve it..

0800 731 6191

Cheers
Report Begginersluck September 26, 2012 1:35 PM BST
Just gave lads a call. Unbelievably arrogant tone from the person I spoke to

I suggest that people call them just to be amazed at how pathetic bookmakers can be. It's hardly the first time they treat thier customers with contempt..
Report wee eck September 26, 2012 1:42 PM BST
I have over £2000 to collect from Laddies if Hughes wins the

championship but honestly cannot understand why folk are griping

because they have not paid out, people who owe them money over

losers on the championship who have accounts wont be billed until

it is all over.  Firms who pay out earlier are being generous.
Report outtheframe October 8, 2012 3:09 PM BST
Anyone thats bored give laddies a call and ask then why they havnet paid out on Hughes yet..

Ladbrokes 'customer service'. Its free to call and you cant give enough stick to bookmakers, they deserve it..

0800 731 6191

Cheers
Report outtheframe October 15, 2012 6:05 PM BST
Ladbrokes finally pay out today on the title!!!! What a day for Hughes!...
Report terriers October 15, 2012 6:18 PM BST
Thats great news concerning ladcrooks paying out if correct!! Could anybody tell me if the william hill circus outfit are also paying out please?? Go on hughsie my son!!GrinHappyLaugh
Report outtheframe October 15, 2012 10:44 PM BST
Can confirm Ladbrokes paying out. Picked up £10K earlier..
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