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By:
howard
When: 06 Mar 12 16:54
Doubled , for once they may have to think about IR punters before deciding what to do. That is unless they dont think about it and come a cropper.
By:
scoobytoo
When: 06 Mar 12 17:20
I dont think the needs of th IR fraternity will be discussed at much length at any Turf/SIS HQ meetings tbh
By:
racingstar
When: 06 Mar 12 19:41
Turf Tv have recently moved their Studio premises and therefore have a new Leased line and Uplink.Therein lies the problem,imo.
By:
Gerbs
When: 06 Mar 12 20:08
is it still a case of turf tv has slowed down rather than ruk speeded up
By:
racingstar
When: 06 Mar 12 20:46
Gerbs,
It is very likely to be a bit of both.
RUK was 1.0 seconds behind SIS on Emirates Racing but were almost level last week.
By:
Jack Bauer '24'
When: 06 Mar 12 21:10
RUK seems to be about 0.5 seconds quicker than previously when I timed it against CH4 on Saturday.
By:
the beard
When: 06 Mar 12 22:55
Interseting post from Betfair Customer Servics last week

Given the combination of varying picture delays to which many customers are now subject and the particularly time-sensitive nature of in-running greyhound racing, as of today’s date we will no longer offer greyhound racing in-running.  We may review this if circumstances change.

Separately, again as of today’s date, we will now be offering the Betfair SP for all greyhound TV races on shown live on either Sky Sports or on the Greyhound TV Channel (channel 231 on the Sky platform).
By:
the beard
When: 06 Mar 12 22:55
Horse racing next?
By:
Tommy K
When: 07 Mar 12 08:56
If Turf TV continues to broadcast it's service in more than 0.7 seconds behind live then I am sorry to say that a big majority of IR shop players will be forced out of the game.  It's very easy to say that the track players earn their advantage by travelling and paying the costs, but what happens when the tracks inevitably fill up?  Years ago I phoned round a dozen or so tracks to try and get in, and I struggled to get in even then!  IR should not be limited to the lucky few who have managed to secure themselves seats at the most lucrative tracks, neither does the future for IR look bright once reality sets in and people realise that if they're not at the tracks, they're almost guaranteed to consistently lose, (race reading skills or not).
By:
howard
When: 07 Mar 12 13:37
You might be right Tommy as it seems clear that the shop players valued turf tv more than SIS as they were nearer the track/live time with the former. Unfortunately it doesnt help the home player unless they can get RUK even quicker. When 4G phones come wont everyone be able to play on course without box facilities ? ( Ive heard it will be as fast as a broadband line )
By:
starfish and coffee
When: 07 Mar 12 13:49
If Turf TV continues to broadcast it's service in more than 0.7 seconds behind live then I am sorry to say that a big majority of IR shop players will be forced out of the game.  It's very easy to say that the track players earn their advantage by travelling and paying the costs, but what happens when the tracks inevitably fill up?  Years ago I phoned round a dozen or so tracks to try and get in, and I struggled to get in even then!  IR should not be limited to the lucky few who have managed to secure themselves seats at the most lucrative tracks, neither does the future for IR look bright once reality sets in and people realise that if they're not at the tracks, they're almost guaranteed to consistently lose, (race reading skills or not).

Sorry but just isn't true.The track boys have always been there from the start whether it be guys on their mobile phones to their mate sitting on the pc at home or in the boxes playing of their own pc's yet the GOOD players in the exchange shops have and will still continue to make money.Some might even argue that home players playing of RUK and live video can still make it pay.

People mention the track players like its the be all and end all.I can tell you from experience it isn't all its made out to be.All the travelling,30/40 guys fighting over the same things,the expenses,the stakes needed to make it pay by going to the track its far from easy.

A GOOD race reader has never had it so good with or without the track players.Like anything the best will adapt and continue to make it pay.The others that were relying on the turf tv pics may get found out but if
truth be told if they cant make it pay now then they were probably on borrowed time anyway.
By:
Playing catchup
When: 07 Mar 12 13:54
Totally agree with the above post
By:
Wesdag
When: 07 Mar 12 13:58
Starfish, talking total sense yet again.
By:
Tommy K
When: 07 Mar 12 14:27
Starfish - While I agree with your point about the track players finding it a struggle, my feelings are that things will improve for them on course ie. better internet connections and facilities.  Not only this but the track players will undoubtedly become a group of good players.

In my opinion, a good player in the shops will lose every time against a good player on track with the right internet connection.

For the future, I just hope that the improvements in internet speeds throughout the UK, coupled with technological advancements will mean that one day, there will be a true level playing field for all.
By:
DOUBLED
When: 07 Mar 12 14:45
Rumours that it is only 1.25 behind live now ??? anyone confirm
By:
andyaou
When: 07 Mar 12 14:52
Definitely seems like it's back to normal today the clock on turf and RUK are different today unlike other days. I also know someone at catterick today and they say that its back to what it normally was (i.e 0.7 - 1 second behind)
By:
andyaou
When: 07 Mar 12 14:54
0.7 seconds or live doesn't really matter if they all win by 20 lengths!!
By:
MrHunt
When: 07 Mar 12 15:32
ruk is now 0.7 behind turf..
By:
Bellamy Road
When: 07 Mar 12 15:51
ruk still 0.2 behind here
By:
MrHunt
When: 07 Mar 12 16:29
bollox
By:
howard
When: 07 Mar 12 17:09
Old aerial still up in Front street next week Wazza ?
By:
use2begudear
When: 08 Mar 12 08:37
My man on track yesterday on telephone to me from Catterick - seemed around a second behind live (max) Grin
By:
Tommy K
When: 08 Mar 12 15:24
I have a contact today at carlisle, Turf TV is more than 1 second behind live there.  Maybe the size of the delay is track dependant?
By:
DOUBLED
When: 08 Mar 12 15:40
What do you reckon it is today ?
By:
Tommy K
When: 08 Mar 12 15:57
1.25 secs
By:
DOUBLED
When: 08 Mar 12 16:01
That figure has been mentioned before as the "new" delay on Turf TV - Cheers
By:
Jack Bauer '24'
When: 08 Mar 12 16:14
What's the difference between Turf Tv and RUK today please?

Thanks.
By:
howard
When: 08 Mar 12 16:21
What are the betting exchange shop owners saying to customers ? Or are they just taking the same fees and saying nowt ?
By:
starfish and coffee
When: 08 Mar 12 16:29
They have obviously been on the phone to turf tv howard.

RUK is now slower again and Turf has quickened up.
By:
rcing
When: 08 Mar 12 16:35
starfish , RUK is still 2 seconds behind the talking clock . as it has been since RUK moved studio . so it hasn't slowed down
By:
starfish and coffee
When: 08 Mar 12 16:37
It has for me rcing. It was the same speed as SIS last week.Its now .7 sec behind SIS. Have both of them in front of me.
By:
Tommy K
When: 09 Mar 12 14:46
Turf only 1 second behind SIS today.
By:
starfish and coffee
When: 09 Mar 12 14:55
Turf tv behind SIS ?
By:
DOUBLED
When: 09 Mar 12 15:22
Tommy - do you mean behind live ?
By:
Tommy K
When: 09 Mar 12 15:57
Sorry, typo.  Business as usual - Turf just over 1 second behind live, RUK just less than 1 second behind turf.
By:
Rider
When: 09 Mar 12 16:27
must be like picking up money off the floor on turf
By:
howard
When: 09 Mar 12 17:28
Think youre right Rider. They are so close to live that they can compete almost on level terms with any track boys yet they still have plenty of RUK punters to feed off.
By:
Rider
When: 10 Mar 12 18:02
interesting that is takes 2 econds to receive ruk and 1 second for turftv, i presume the ruk studio then recieve the turftv pics add on the all important comments from people like andy richmond and then bounce the pics to the subscribers, which begs the question - do subscribers really want to have twice the delay for what is added on at the studio ? or would they rather miss the studio out and have parity with turftv?
By:
howard
When: 11 Mar 12 16:38
My hope is that RUK HD is behind normal RUK which they will have to keep on air. Of course they could put a delay on it so they are the same. Then many would give up paying £20 a month imo.
By:
Rider
When: 11 Mar 12 16:46
HD will probably be an expensive mistake, they are totally out of touch with what their subscribers want, imo
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