MAZOVIAN 2:10

yard in form CT.. 777/1 winner yesterday!

also 150/1 shot traded at 1.5 in the run

Unbeleaveble scenes indeed Delt..Good luck..

typo^

M.C.Chapman is an up-and-coming genius, not much doubt about that

very different proposition today imo, going from being drawn wide in small fields receiving weight last two runs on slow going to giving weight all around and posted right on the rail .... i'd be looking elsewhere for the winner of the opener

Beachwood Bay for me. Up to 7 f and trainer/jockey combination doing very well.

Mazovian looked visually impressive last run but I have a problem with the time.  On their last CD runs I have Mazovian very slightly ahead of Monte Cassino but today Mazovian carries an extra 23 lbs whereas Monte Cassino carries 4lbs less.
I don't think the weight reduction will allow MC to run any faster but I have to question whether Mazovian will able to clock the same time or faster with so much extra on his back. May well be improving fast enough to cope but too much doubt for me and combined with inside draw Mazovian has to be a Lay.

inside draw also puts me off but good luck anyway,also think you might better the 9-4

Yep ,that inside draw could finish him - will have to get out sharpish & away from the rail - slow it down & then kick off the final bend down the middle of the track - can be done but would want a lot more than 9-4 . Good Luck with this  carrot dangling class dropper

Like the look of Dickie La Davoir here. Has run some good races on this track against some very reliable yardsticks for this course. Was slowly away over 6f last time at southwell and ran on late to be 2l or so behind Suddenly Susan. Also beat ingelby arch the time before at Sothwell, where again it was slowly away, and came up the ralis for an easy success over the 7f.
Think Dickie potentially has the beating of alot of these, and the conditions look ideal for it today.

Beachwood bay would have a great e/w chance a line through Mazonian on form I have Beachwood a lot closer Mazonian and the proce differential from 2's to 8.6 I know where the value lies..

what price would you trade out at colonel ive took it on at 2.92 have to take it on at that price.

No trading out for me old boy..I took the 9/4 and thought it a very fair price..of course the jockey and inside draw are a worry..but that is horse racing..good luck..no haters please..cheers

like the look of the smart horse meself!spuds deep.

I will be very interested to see the time posted today with the extra weight. May make no difference at all - always learning at this game! GL

23lb of dead weight surely gotta tell, probably take longer to get into a stride and up to racing pace

the beast carried 8-8 with a similar effort. 9-3 today....9lb extra.....

similar situation to last July with Mazovian when he won over 6f at Leicester under Noel Garbutt carrying 8-00 but could only finish 6th of 12 beaten nearly 14 lengths under the same jockey carrying 9-11 under a 6lb penalty 9 days later

nothing similar at all...crazy analogy. This beast has been electric the last two times. Things could go t**s up quickly from this draw though and so many others wanting to be leading. I'd bang him out and take the 2 path, Bonnie Prince Blue will be slow away. He could flop as well having ran 2 career bests in a row. Not the type of bet I'd be running round the shops lumping on, at that price. 8/1 Blackmore, my cup of tea...

I backed Mazovian last time out, got 8/1 that day. Today's price however is far too short to get involved with.

Arachnophobia is the value bet here for me at 22/1

Oh dear

Ugly trip - Ugly commentary

Jockey seemed to panic a bit when things weren't going well early

My Racing Post didn't arrive this morning and I can't get online. What did Spotlight go for hear?

W/D DUFFMIVER

horse knackered...Lester wouldnt have won it.

Definately a dead rail there..the draw did kill it..wd winners..

Cheers Tenpoletudor a value bet is a value bet win or lose but nicer when they win of course! LOL

If you didnt trade out pre race at 6-4 you should have a word with yourself

Feb 23, 2012 -- 2:15PM, Colonel Trautman wrote:

Definately a dead rail there..the draw did kill it..wd winners..

the draw did it!! Is it still running it fell out the back of the 100 inch tv ive got!!

Winning time 1m 30.01 (slow by 2.71)
Mazovian 10 1/2 lengths off that time
Mazovian winning time last race 1m 28.99
Hard to know how much is down to the extra 23lbs and how much due to the way this race panned out.

Come clean Colonel you are laying these?

Ha ha..funny..17 points up last week level stakes..(just on my posts on here)..how about your good self old boy??

Striving to undo black January, progress acceptable but can and must do better.

Good luck, just stop picking ones that I am on because we have 100% combined record

In hindsight mazovian Was a poor bet..The draw/dead rail all the way round/jockey/weight/knackeredness..BUT some people agreed with me as it touched 11/8 (from 9/4) just before the off..thought the price was fair at 9/4..ran like a 90/1 shot ..

^^^ lmfao

Draw rail had nothing to do with it st ignatius made all and ran on the far side to find extra nearer the rail.

was beat after 2 furlongs, couldnt keep up with Monte Cassino. Actually was beat  cos it hadnt recovered from its last 2 runs.

Thats why i said it was knackered Roger(if you read it again)and if you think the ground is not slower (dead) on the inside then you are a fool..St ignatus may well be better than it showed if it won all the way round the inside(didnt watch it)..

Chompy_imo
23 Feb 12 23:53 Joined: 12 Jul 01 | Topic/replies: 5,277 | Blogger: Chompy_imo's blog
^^^ lmfao

You make this game pay fatty?Because contrary to what people may think on here.I do..

dunno what the win of St Ignatius has to do with whether Mazovian was inconvenienced from being drawn in stall 1 when St Ignatius was drawn in stall 2, world of difference if you do your research

I don't take the view that he bounced from 2 career best performances, I think a combination of factors contributed to the flop and would be interested in backing him next time if drawn wider and carrying less weight in a better race depending on the opposition

Grendel ROGER said it ran all the way round the inside and gave the impression it stuck to the rail from the offset..I said i didnt watch the race..So f ucked if i know what happened..I say it again slower ground on the inside..

I said above...Combination of factors and got laughed at by the chumpy..I held my hands up and said it was a poor bet and still get abuse from people..Unreal..

*9:41 post is talking about St ignatius..

Colonel Trautman   

someday's you can't win no matter what you say before or after the race

At least you are still here ...

gl

Very comforting Virgin..Good luck pal..

Don't remember you saying it was a poor bet in the OP? Just so roffle

I wasn't knocking your post Colonel, thegiggolo first suggested the draw made no difference just because St Ignacius won .... i wouldn't worry about those on here who ain't got anything constructive to contribute

There were some very shrewd people on that horse yesterday and yes we all got it wrong..The money smashed it into 11/8..I could have made a bundle before the race started..And in hindsight i should have..You ever have a losing 9/4 shot??

Ok grendel you seem a good guy and very clued up on the game..Good luck.

Stick with backing M.C.Chapman 11/8 shots under a penalty from the inside draw at Southwell

Thicket

you seem to have more to see after the race than before chompy, very helpful

If S.Kelly gets this beat today then i will never bet on the all weather again.    (Falcon´s Reign) in the 2.15 Lingfield) My ATR Tracker comment to follow.  Good Luck All

say not see

Falcon's Reign - (Lingfield, 14:15) 
Race: Breathe Spa At Marriott Lingfield Median Auction Maiden Stakes
Your comment: Yet another bad ride from S Kelly. given an overconfident ride in this slowly run race. The horse is better than this ???
Green when 1¾ lengths third to Roedean (thrived since) in 7f Wolverhampton maiden on debut. Failed to land odds next time but race wasn't run to suit and remains with potential.

                              (Good Luck All)

grendel 24 Feb 12 10:14 
you seem to have more to see after the race than before chompy, very helpful

Nope, I tipped the 4/1 winner ta please

Like i say how do your "selections" do chumpy???Say no more..

Well i have put up a 7/4 shot on another thread chomp so you can try to make me look a thicket on that aswell..

...and here's another one.Good God.

Colonel you were demoted to private a long time ago for all-weather racing crimes.

It was drawn 1(coffin box) yesterday,but Troutface would not have know that.He picks them out with a pin,so he does.

lol i knew it was drawn in the coffin box and said it was a worry before the race..I thought 9/4 was a good price it got punted into 11/8 and lost.My bet was price dependent..Do people understand this??My only gripe was i should have layed off for profit..

Aye.Right.

All there BEFORE the race laddie.

Its all about opinions he did read the market right and should have made money,never knock anyone for having a go.

You were right thought funny,i should have had a word with myself for not laying that for a good profit before the race..Gl.

Colonel Trautman 23 Feb 12 09:19 
I have smashed into this today and have hit my local laddies and indies for as much 9/4 as i could get..I fully expect this to bolt in again today..And could not believe the 9/4..

Yep, crammed with draw issues and lay-off thoughts...

lol You should EDIT the comic you work for..Incred.

Go read the OP thicket

Oh i see you dont read the thread.sorry my bad.

Turn it in,Trautmann.

This game ain't for you,pal.

bit out of character recently Alain old boy..Is there any stable info today Alain in your imaginery world?Or do you want me to put you onto some?

stick at it Trauts, but read every word I said from the start of this thread. You have been mis-quoting me on this, plus saying the horse was knackered AFTER I said it first.
Grendel re-watch the trip Mazovian and St Ignatius both had, very similar, whether one was in the 1 box or 2 box became irrelevant, Mazovian took the 2 path due to BBB missing the break, then took the rail for the 1st turn to the home straight. St Ignatius had the 2 box but came across to claim the rail before the 1st turn and stayed on the rail to the home turn.
I'm not saying there isn't a dead rail there, there more than likely is.
I gave Mazovian a SF of 96 (9~3) yesterday, having recorder 111 the last twice.
I gave St Ignatius a 98 (8~5) yesterday, so the SF are quite similar for two horses racing close to the rail, regardless of one winning the other flopping.

Tuatman, you are such a thicket. You accused me of editing. I C&P'd the OP. Learn the game and gtfo, ta

Learn the game coming from Graham Wheldon...

was this one of ur 17 winners,the same day you tipped a shortie at jebel ali and ohhh yes won the 18grand.....LUNATIC......

A pleasing week for followers.Thank you.

btw richters,if you wanna get smart,post up the 4 YES 4 winners in a row i posted up after this thread..Oh no,people dont like to do that on here,better to just do some editing and forgetting hey..?

was this the shed load bet.......u only posted te 4th of dat bet...

Lol nah..This was from the day or two before..And i posted the others..

Feb 24, 2012 -- 9:39AM, grendel wrote:

dunno what the win of St Ignatius has to do with whether Mazovian was inconvenienced from being drawn in stall 1 when St Ignatius was drawn in stall 2, world of difference if you do your researchI don't take the view that he bounced from 2 career best performances, I think a combination of factors contributed to the flop and would be interested in backing him next time if drawn wider and carrying less weight in a better race depending on the opposition

On this one today, completely fogive his last run