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off to see the fastest horse on the planet to-morrow, can't wait, another 30.000 crowd guaranteed. how many horses can win group 1, 5furlong sprints and be fav for 12furlong group 1's, that's what is happening here, 19 winning races in a row if it wins to-morrow, it really is the talking horse of the world, so off to bed now, get up for an early start, wish me luck. cheers.
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30 thousand lol that's how many stand on the banks of the Newmarket gallops watching the OFFICIAL NUMBER ONE horse in the world Frankel working out.
very picky Anna. if Frankal is so good why doesn't he come over here to take on Caviar or even go to Dubai, answer that. cheers.
He's to busy conquering the rest of the world 1st then he'll depress a nation that stops too watch a poor Handicap race in under 2 minutes
He's to busy conquering the rest of the world 1st then he'll depress a nation that stops too watch a poor Handicap race in under 2 minutes
Anna you seem to be a little deluded, horses come from all over to run in a poor hcp. and because a horse is famous all over the world, because it is not English, then it must be poor, give the horse a little credit, also, this will be it's 3rd run in 3 weeks, how many top class horses in England do that. cheers.
That's because he sorry she is running against p***-poor opposition. After she gets trounced by Frankel(anagram FN Arkle) sHE'LL NOT BE IN TOO MUCH OF A RUSH TO RUN SO OFTEN
well i'm off to bed now, but i hope you watch her run to-morrow, and tell me what you think, i'll have the race cards of her last 3 runs, also the harness inter dominion final card for anyone who saves them. cheers.
p... poor opposition?? Hay List would win any sprint anywhere in the world, without black Caviar of course. Stop talking nonsense please
right i'm off to watch her run, there are 2 guin eas trials also, so should be some exciting racing to watch. cheers.
The Bairn get things in some sort of perspective.She is only famous in Australia and known in the UK,the rest of the world bar perhaps Hong Kong and Singapore probably have no idea.
This forum and the Racing Post are probably her only platform outside Australia at the moment.Today and a commitment to Ascot will change the whole shebang,however if she loses.........you will have to accept,nobody outside Aus will even mention her again.
I dont see that happening but it is a fact if it does,only real racing fans knew about Zenyatta outside of the US.
Red Rum,Desert Orchid,Arkle and Nijinsky are the only horses you could poll the public for in the UK and get 1 in 10 to say they have heard of.
GL,Hope she wins as expected and lines up in England.
This forum and the Racing Post are probably her only platform outside Australia at the moment.Today and a commitment to Ascot will change the whole shebang,however if she loses.........you will have to accept,nobody outside Aus will even mention her again.
I dont see that happening but it is a fact if it does,only real racing fans knew about Zenyatta outside of the US.
Red Rum,Desert Orchid,Arkle and Nijinsky are the only horses you could poll the public for in the UK and get 1 in 10 to say they have heard of.
GL,Hope she wins as expected and lines up in England.
anyone backed here fot eh mile and a half race shes fav for? just curious.
Has tha moved tit Yorksheer ilwab lad?
Down tit pit tha nose.....ee ba gum.
Down tit pit tha nose.....ee ba gum.
fav for a 12f race?
is this a joke?
whose backing her over a mile and a half?
good lord!
is this a joke?
whose backing her over a mile and a half?
good lord!
Grommutti wood murdur hur at that distince ilwab.
that he would gt, id send sprinter sacre to the july cup..........then again thats why i dont train horses
If we trained horses ilwab the world and there dogs would be knocking at the door.
Between you me and Ryanwee we would have it sorted.
Ryan on entries,me on late withdrawls and you laying them.
Dream Team
As long as you kept out of the Stags Head during racing.
Between you me and Ryanwee we would have it sorted.
Ryan on entries,me on late withdrawls and you laying them.
Dream Team
As long as you kept out of the Stags Head during racing.
FFS what am I saying.........Barney.......Butler and Spenc.........r?
is she running over 10f...............where do i go to lay...........YIPEE..............fools
its a 5 furlong race, ffs...........op has lost any respect
i can actually back this thing at 1.15...........i've just come in my pants................the betting should already be suspended
just back from Flemington Australia, my god that was a sensational run again, you had to be there, it was so emotional, people were in tears, even the women, 19 straight wins, the CEO of the sponsors Coolmore said, the whole world has been touched by this horse's performances and can't wait for it's next victim[FRANKLE] I actually thought it was beaten 200 meters out , but once again the acceleration was electric. this was one of the most unforgettable moments in my life. catch you all later, just off to the Crown casino to spend all my winnings cheers.
Black Caviar beats trees..Its like me running past a parked Ferrari F50 and saying i am quicker than it..
Or if he was going to miss his last night bus home.
your arguments are useless "she's on roids, the competition sucks"
your prizemoney sucks, your style of racing sucks, your racing just plain out sucks
also who does your ratings? hay list and hoof it at the same rating?
Hay List would pound the best you got over 5-7f
your prizemoney sucks, your style of racing sucks, your racing just plain out sucks
also who does your ratings? hay list and hoof it at the same rating?
Hay List would pound the best you got over 5-7f
How bad is Australian Racing? A horse that mightn't even make it in to the UK Lincoln running every week against poor opposition and called the greatest horse in her own stable. I can see what they are doing when she's been beaten 10 lengths plus at Ascot it'll be "Oooh! I think we got it wrong she was burned out". Nice try me auld muckers to get your excuse in early but even if she never ran this season she'll still be getting a 10 lengths plus beaten by The WORLDS OFFICIALS NUMBER ONE HORSE Frankel
which horse have you got which can beat Hay List please
She struggled to win. Bloody hell..sorry..blooming hell she'll be a parish behind Frankel at Ascot if that's the best she can run http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wID6-p68gtc
you obviously don't understand racing, going from 7f then backing up 7 days later going back to 5f against the 2nd best sprinter in the world who was first up after a long break, you don't understand
there are services available to you, hope this helps
there are services available to you, hope this helps
Horse racing versus backwoods donkey derbys. Frankel different class, different planet, different everything. Unbeatable.
Frankel will take her at any distance 5f -16f and beat her a country mile...Hope this helps.
i think the english are forgetting that frankel stumbled over the line drunk as a skunk at ascot, just getting the better of zoffany. i hear you say zoffany who??????? oh, he's the mighty horse that won fook all in 6 runs as a 3 year old
And beat the horse 5 lengths that beat Goldikova at Royal Ascot...Goldi who i hear you say!!
all i'm saying its hard to perform like a freak every time............not least 19 times in a row............enough said
No matter where you come from or on what kind of track you race on or at what distance, 9.98 seconds for 200m (furlong is 201.168m) is insane.
And that fact is that in Australia any 600m sectional time of less than 33 seconds is genuinely fast. Black Caviar today ran the last 600 in 31.78, with the last 200 in 11.4 (meaning she slowed up).
Does this mean she'd beat frankel? Of course not. Not even sure she could do it over 7f let a lone a mile. But the fact is if she is able to get the distance then she is not going to destroyed by him, it's just not physically possible if she runs the speed she did today that something could beat her by more than a small amount.
Fyi, I have 0 idea who would actually win (assuming a mile isn't too long for her). And frankly I don't see how anyone else can have much of a clue except to say they're both freaks and it would be close. I think people's flags are blocking their views.
And that fact is that in Australia any 600m sectional time of less than 33 seconds is genuinely fast. Black Caviar today ran the last 600 in 31.78, with the last 200 in 11.4 (meaning she slowed up).
Does this mean she'd beat frankel? Of course not. Not even sure she could do it over 7f let a lone a mile. But the fact is if she is able to get the distance then she is not going to destroyed by him, it's just not physically possible if she runs the speed she did today that something could beat her by more than a small amount.
Fyi, I have 0 idea who would actually win (assuming a mile isn't too long for her). And frankly I don't see how anyone else can have much of a clue except to say they're both freaks and it would be close. I think people's flags are blocking their views.
she ran the mid 600 in 30.59sec
i hope laurel and hardy takes note of tommyjone's post
i hope laurel and hardy takes note of tommyjone's post
it wouldn't surprise me if frankel turns out to be a flop this season, hope not but wouldn't be the first that doesn't carry the sparkle and train on
black caviar is mopping up weak races but there will come a point when either they go to the well once too often or she meets something that won't back out, in a battle i think she'll fold, especially if they come here in the summer
black caviar is mopping up weak races but there will come a point when either they go to the well once too often or she meets something that won't back out, in a battle i think she'll fold, especially if they come here in the summer
let me tell you a story about 2 of the finest in their respective trade
Hope you boys have as big balls as you do mouths and lay her till your nose bleeds when she comes over to meet your mighty horses, I doubt it ffs
How was today not a battle? Hay List ran a 10.04 sectional then a 10.43 and she responded with 9.98 and 10.40 and broke his back, then eased up a bit in the last furlong (well the last bit of it).
Hay List has only lost 7 races in his career, 5 to black caviar. The other 2 was when he was not anywhere near his best.
Hay List has only lost 7 races in his career, 5 to black caviar. The other 2 was when he was not anywhere near his best.
people just refuse to believe there's a horse on the other side of the world who has beaten all before her and hasn't looking like getting beaten, only today did she look like it but she was there to be beaten
going from 7f to 5f within a 7 day time frame is such a hard thing to do, horses get spent to the paddock for 4-6 weeks normally to do such a thing, she did in 1 week against the best sprinters we got, I don't care how much bias you have, you have to respect the quality of our sprinters, we've won your prestigious king's stand numerous times with horses who are not mentioned in the same breathe as Black Caviar
just like I respect your staying ranks, you have to respect our sprinting ranks, if you don't then you're putting yourself at a disadvantage
I know Frankel is a machine but much like BC, connections haven't risked him by taking on distances which he probably could run out but they don't want to do it for whatever reasons, he also didn't run out of his same age group until he ran in that race where Rewilding broke down (I can't remember the name of it sadly) and then when he won it people were having masturbation sessions over him, both will probably retire unbeaten although with BC I get the feeling this is her swansong, 1 year ago Moody wouldn't have a bar of sending her over to other countries, he use to infamously say "why cant they come to us" but now he's looking to get her racing everywhere and having her backup in a 5f race 1 week after running 7f certainly made it look like "this is your last chance to come see her" sort of thing
going from 7f to 5f within a 7 day time frame is such a hard thing to do, horses get spent to the paddock for 4-6 weeks normally to do such a thing, she did in 1 week against the best sprinters we got, I don't care how much bias you have, you have to respect the quality of our sprinters, we've won your prestigious king's stand numerous times with horses who are not mentioned in the same breathe as Black Caviar
just like I respect your staying ranks, you have to respect our sprinting ranks, if you don't then you're putting yourself at a disadvantage
I know Frankel is a machine but much like BC, connections haven't risked him by taking on distances which he probably could run out but they don't want to do it for whatever reasons, he also didn't run out of his same age group until he ran in that race where Rewilding broke down (I can't remember the name of it sadly) and then when he won it people were having masturbation sessions over him, both will probably retire unbeaten although with BC I get the feeling this is her swansong, 1 year ago Moody wouldn't have a bar of sending her over to other countries, he use to infamously say "why cant they come to us" but now he's looking to get her racing everywhere and having her backup in a 5f race 1 week after running 7f certainly made it look like "this is your last chance to come see her" sort of thing
Frankel is the best in the world at 7/8furlongs. Caviar is the best in the world at 5/6furlongs.
They are both awesome. That performance today was 3 hundredths off the course record. There isn't a sprinter in the UK that could have gone with her for more than 3 furlongs.
Perhaps Frankel could be as good or better than her over 5/6 f. we'll never know.
Perhaps she could be as good or better than him over 8 fur. We may never know.
So,unless they meet ,at any distance ,what is the point in comparing them. They are both phenomenal.
They are both awesome. That performance today was 3 hundredths off the course record. There isn't a sprinter in the UK that could have gone with her for more than 3 furlongs.
Perhaps Frankel could be as good or better than her over 5/6 f. we'll never know.
Perhaps she could be as good or better than him over 8 fur. We may never know.
So,unless they meet ,at any distance ,what is the point in comparing them. They are both phenomenal.
wtf am I thinking about then, that race was significant for something, I dont watch your big races unless I have a reason to watch
If Black Caviar is inferior to Frankel then why is the betting with "Sportingbet" BC 1.6 V Frankel 2.3,for when they are to meet in July in U.K.
I say let them meet over 7f in a 2 horse race that way pace makers can't be used.
The Aussie Bookmakers 5/4 Frankle - 8/13 Black Caviar
Coral Bookmakers 4/6 Frankle- 11/10 Black Caviar
Coral Bookmakers 4/6 Frankle- 11/10 Black Caviar
If Black Caviar goes to Ascot it will be the July Cup i feel. A nothing race compared to the Queen Anne. Personally i think that they should meet at the Breeders Cup.
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Hope you boys have as big balls as you do mouths and lay her till your nose bleeds when she comes over to meet your mighty horses, I doubt it ffs
I will sell my house and lay the lot if she's going to be fav for a 12f Group 1 over here.
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Hope you boys have as big balls as you do mouths and lay her till your nose bleeds when she comes over to meet your mighty horses, I doubt it ffs
I will sell my house and lay the lot if she's going to be fav for a 12f Group 1 over here.
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Hope you boys have as big balls as you do mouths and lay her till your nose bleeds when she comes over to meet your mighty horses, I doubt it ffs
I will sell my house and lay the lot if she's going to be fav for a 12f Group 1 over here.
Don't sell the horse mate, just give it to me
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Hope you boys have as big balls as you do mouths and lay her till your nose bleeds when she comes over to meet your mighty horses, I doubt it ffs
I will sell my house and lay the lot if she's going to be fav for a 12f Group 1 over here.
Don't sell the horse mate, just give it to me
Australia has an incredible mare called Black Caviar who everyone should enjoy. Outside of her the majority of turf horses are poor but run for good prize money.
Britain has an incredible horse called Frankel who everyone should enjoy. Outside of him the majority of turf horse are quite good but run for poor prize money.
Let's all be friends.
Britain has an incredible horse called Frankel who everyone should enjoy. Outside of him the majority of turf horse are quite good but run for poor prize money.
Let's all be friends.
Feck off with you poor prize Money...£2,000 seller in Eng = $40,000 group race in Australia...oh! and that's after commission in the exchange rate.
exchange rate english dollar worth a crappy 68 pence to the aussie dollar
aussie dollars worth more the USD @1.07
seriously your deadset studying to be a fcukin idiot
aussie dollars worth more the USD @1.07
seriously your deadset studying to be a fcukin idiot
2THEMAX
That was code for the Kings Stand for our Australian friends
That was code for the Kings Stand for our Australian friends
Hay List is a top quality in his own right. So unlucky to be around the same time as her. He would be a major player in either sprint at Ascot.
Black Caviar sub 10 seconds for one of her sections. utterly impressive. Would blow the Golden Jubilee wide apart.
If they want to take on Frankel (doubt they will) then 1st time out in the Lockinge might be their best option. Its not too long after Dubai to keep on the go for.
On another note...When you think about it....it isnt totally impossible that Frankel could end up racing against her and another superstar...Orfevre.
Black Caviar sub 10 seconds for one of her sections. utterly impressive. Would blow the Golden Jubilee wide apart.
If they want to take on Frankel (doubt they will) then 1st time out in the Lockinge might be their best option. Its not too long after Dubai to keep on the go for.
On another note...When you think about it....it isnt totally impossible that Frankel could end up racing against her and another superstar...Orfevre.
Hilarious thread, not hard to tell who the 'part timers' on here are. Some wouldn't have the faintest idea how to assess a racehorse. The likes of EVILROYSLADE, ANALOGS DAUGHTER, 2THE MAX probably have not even seen a video on the topic they are discussing.
Basically, no horse in the history of racing can run a 600 sectional like we saw yesterday, and breaking 10 sec for the furlong, well, those of you in the northern hemisphere that do unsterstand racing would know that is literally unbeatable. Nothing can go with that.
Forumites Roggrain and Tommyjone were the two on here that have made a very good , seemingly unbiased assessment, the Black Caviar/Frankel debate is largely futile. Both clearly incredible horses, only jealousy ensures anyone talking down either of them.
What we saw yesterday was possibly the best 'on the clock' performance ever seen on a racetrack. Those of you wanting to knock that are proving yourselves to nothing more than jealous mug punters
Basically, no horse in the history of racing can run a 600 sectional like we saw yesterday, and breaking 10 sec for the furlong, well, those of you in the northern hemisphere that do unsterstand racing would know that is literally unbeatable. Nothing can go with that.
Forumites Roggrain and Tommyjone were the two on here that have made a very good , seemingly unbiased assessment, the Black Caviar/Frankel debate is largely futile. Both clearly incredible horses, only jealousy ensures anyone talking down either of them.
What we saw yesterday was possibly the best 'on the clock' performance ever seen on a racetrack. Those of you wanting to knock that are proving yourselves to nothing more than jealous mug punters
unless you can run "the greatest" hoses at the same time,
same conditions, same level of fitness, equal level of
jockey , you will never know who is the greatest!!!! just
enjoy the moments
same conditions, same level of fitness, equal level of
jockey , you will never know who is the greatest!!!! just
enjoy the moments
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