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Is this a common phenomenon?
Looking at the race Pipers Piping doesn't look out of the ordinary until you look at the amounts of money trying to get on and lay.
Is this a technique used by punters wanting to back and lay, so they put large amounts up to discourage offers or requests (and get other punters to place a bet)?
I'm just interested - a few minutes ago Ladbrokes cut their price from 11/2 to 5/1 but I didn't see that as significant
Looking at the race Pipers Piping doesn't look out of the ordinary until you look at the amounts of money trying to get on and lay.
Is this a technique used by punters wanting to back and lay, so they put large amounts up to discourage offers or requests (and get other punters to place a bet)?
I'm just interested - a few minutes ago Ladbrokes cut their price from 11/2 to 5/1 but I didn't see that as significant
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The queueing money has gone down. Most matched at 6.4 and 6.2.
At the time I'm writing:
Total matched on this event: £18,646
Reduction Factor 16.7%
Betting summary - Volume: £6,506
Compare this to the favourite
Total matched on this event: £19,074
Reduction Factor 29.5%
Betting summary - Volume: £7,788
At the time I'm writing:
Total matched on this event: £18,646
Reduction Factor 16.7%
Betting summary - Volume: £6,506
Compare this to the favourite
Total matched on this event: £19,074
Reduction Factor 29.5%
Betting summary - Volume: £7,788
Virtually every Chris Beek runner is heavily backed and/or shortened up
That seems to have happened here. Seems odd that a syndicate are taking prices which net off as poorer value than the books. Lots of 5/1 around, and (provided they don't have restrictions at Ladbrokes) both better value there and without commission.
When I did my assessment of the race I felt Dashing Eddie was beatable and that the 13/8 7/4 15/8 kind of prices didn't take full account of the rise in handicap.
I am prepared to back D'Urberville at 4/1 or bigger (as that way I can build in the risk of a bounce effect) but I had felt 7/1 would be needed to attract me to back Pipers Piping.
I was initially drawn to review Pipers Piping because I wasn't familiar with the betting pattern. But since then I have seen a jocked up entry tomorrow for an apprentice handicap and am prepared to consider that the handicap today may well be generous. Tomorrows race is 0-65 and would be then contestable with a penalty as well as top weight.
So I'm looking at Pipers Piping today and have cut my required price to just under 13/2
I am prepared to back D'Urberville at 4/1 or bigger (as that way I can build in the risk of a bounce effect) but I had felt 7/1 would be needed to attract me to back Pipers Piping.
I was initially drawn to review Pipers Piping because I wasn't familiar with the betting pattern. But since then I have seen a jocked up entry tomorrow for an apprentice handicap and am prepared to consider that the handicap today may well be generous. Tomorrows race is 0-65 and would be then contestable with a penalty as well as top weight.
So I'm looking at Pipers Piping today and have cut my required price to just under 13/2
When I did my assessment of the race I felt Dashing Eddie was beatable and that the 13/8 7/4 15/8 kind of prices didn't take full account of the rise in handicap.
I am prepared to back D'Urberville at 4/1 or bigger (as that way I can build in the risk of a bounce effect) but I had felt 7/1 would be needed to attract me to back Pipers Piping.
I was initially drawn to review Pipers Piping because I wasn't familiar with the betting pattern. But since then I have seen a jocked up entry tomorrow for an apprentice handicap and am prepared to consider that the handicap today may well be generous. Tomorrows race is 0-65 and would be then contestable with a penalty as well as top weight.
So I'm looking at Pipers Piping today and have cut my required price to just under 13/2
I am prepared to back D'Urberville at 4/1 or bigger (as that way I can build in the risk of a bounce effect) but I had felt 7/1 would be needed to attract me to back Pipers Piping.
I was initially drawn to review Pipers Piping because I wasn't familiar with the betting pattern. But since then I have seen a jocked up entry tomorrow for an apprentice handicap and am prepared to consider that the handicap today may well be generous. Tomorrows race is 0-65 and would be then contestable with a penalty as well as top weight.
So I'm looking at Pipers Piping today and have cut my required price to just under 13/2
I got 6/1 about Pipers Piping earlier today. Last time Leonna Mayor was up she was beaten in a photo finish, I think at 6/1 "Pipers" is value
Hasn't been better than 6.8 here
Even so, there will be a long wait before he is entitled to run in a 0-65 again after yesterday's run away success
Even so, there will be a long wait before he is entitled to run in a 0-65 again after yesterday's run away success
Top and bottom has time since last race as well as handicap rating, but Hackett off 52 has been leniently treated. George Downing has draw 6 and a decent chance. Hopefully to be second rather than win.
Just not good enough. Josh Crane is a jockey worth noting, and well done to the man I knew as spin dwyer when he was in Yorkshire
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