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sandyhood
02 Feb 12 10:55
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Is this a common phenomenon?
Looking at the race Pipers Piping doesn't look out of the ordinary until you look at the amounts of money trying to get on and lay.
Is this a technique used by punters wanting to back and lay, so they put large amounts up to discourage offers or requests (and get other punters to place a bet)?

I'm just interested - a few minutes ago Ladbrokes cut their price from 11/2 to 5/1 but I didn't see that as significant

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By:
sandyhood
When: 02 Feb 12 11:11
The queueing money has gone down. Most matched at 6.4 and 6.2.

At the time I'm writing:
Total matched on this event:     £18,646
Reduction Factor     16.7%
Betting summary - Volume:     £6,506

Compare this to the favourite
Total matched on this event:     £19,074
Reduction Factor     29.5%
Betting summary - Volume:     £7,788
By:
JohnLaurie
When: 02 Feb 12 11:14
Virtually every Chris Beek runner is heavily backed and/or shortened up
By:
sandyhood
When: 02 Feb 12 11:25
That seems to have happened here. Seems odd that a syndicate are taking prices which net off as poorer value than the books. Lots of 5/1 around, and (provided they don't have restrictions at Ladbrokes) both better value there and without commission.
By:
sandyhood
When: 02 Feb 12 12:24
When I did my assessment of the race I felt Dashing Eddie was beatable and that the 13/8 7/4 15/8 kind of prices didn't take full account of the rise in handicap.
I am prepared to back D'Urberville at 4/1 or bigger (as that way I can build in the risk of a bounce effect) but I had felt 7/1 would be needed to attract me to back Pipers Piping.
I was initially drawn to review Pipers Piping because I wasn't familiar with the betting pattern. But since then I have seen a jocked up entry tomorrow for an apprentice handicap and am prepared to consider that the handicap today may well be generous. Tomorrows race is 0-65 and would be then contestable with a penalty as well as top weight.
So I'm looking at Pipers Piping today and have cut my required price to just under 13/2
By:
sandyhood
When: 02 Feb 12 12:24
When I did my assessment of the race I felt Dashing Eddie was beatable and that the 13/8 7/4 15/8 kind of prices didn't take full account of the rise in handicap.
I am prepared to back D'Urberville at 4/1 or bigger (as that way I can build in the risk of a bounce effect) but I had felt 7/1 would be needed to attract me to back Pipers Piping.
I was initially drawn to review Pipers Piping because I wasn't familiar with the betting pattern. But since then I have seen a jocked up entry tomorrow for an apprentice handicap and am prepared to consider that the handicap today may well be generous. Tomorrows race is 0-65 and would be then contestable with a penalty as well as top weight.
So I'm looking at Pipers Piping today and have cut my required price to just under 13/2
By:
Schickelgruber
When: 02 Feb 12 12:35
I got 6/1 about Pipers Piping earlier today. Last time Leonna Mayor was up she was beaten in a photo finish, I think at 6/1 "Pipers" is value
By:
sandyhood
When: 02 Feb 12 15:32
Well done Schickelgruber
By:
sandyhood
When: 02 Feb 12 15:33
I think she might come out tomorrow
By:
Virgin
When: 02 Feb 12 15:34
Schickelgruber    wd
By:
sandyhood
When: 02 Feb 12 17:46
Could be 6/1 for a repeat tomorrow
By:
sandyhood
When: 03 Feb 12 13:50
Hasn't been better than 6.8 here
Even so, there will be a long wait before he is entitled to run in a 0-65 again after yesterday's run away success
By:
sandyhood
When: 03 Feb 12 13:58
Top and bottom has time since last race as well as handicap rating, but Hackett off 52 has been leniently treated. George Downing has draw 6 and a decent chance. Hopefully to be second rather than win.
By:
sandyhood
When: 03 Feb 12 14:15
Just not good enough. Josh Crane is a jockey worth noting, and well done to the man I knew as spin dwyer when he was in Yorkshire
By:
sandyhood
When: 03 Feb 12 14:19
Leonna Mayor next time in an apprentice race please
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