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An inquest into the death of Wales football manager will be opened at the coroner's court in Warrington on Tuesday
Helen Carter
guardian.co.uk,
An inquest will open on Tuesday into the death of the Wales football manager Gary Speed at his home in Cheshire.
A spokeswoman for the coroner, Nicholas Rheinberg, confirmed her office had been informed of the death by police. The inquest will be opened at the coroner's court at Warrington town hall before a full hearing takes place at a later date.
Speed, 42, was found by his wife, Louise, in the garage of their home in the village of Huntington, near Chester, shortly after 7am on Sunday. Police said the death was not being treated as suspicious. The couple lived in Huntington with their two teenage sons, and Speed was said to have been a devoted family man.
At a later date, the coroner will establish the cause of death. It has been widely reported that Speed took his own life, but this has yet to be confirmed officially.
A Cheshire police spokeswoman said: "Officers went to the scene where a 42-year-old man was found dead. The next of kin have been informed and have confirmed the identity of the man as Gary Speed.
"There are no suspicious circumstances surrounding the death. The family have requested that they are left in peace to grieve at this difficult time."
The previous day, Speed had appeared on BBC1's Football Focus programme talking enthusiastically about his team's improved fortunes and his hopes for success in World Cup qualifying matches in 2012.
Dan Walker, a presenter who spent four hours with him on Saturday, described his friend as "as bubbly as I've known him".
"He was talking about his kids, how they were really coming on and talking about playing golf next week," he said.
"It's awful to think someone who was so gifted and so well liked, with the rest of his life to look forward to, has been cruelly removed. He was in such a good mood about the show and said he'd love to come back before Christmas."
A book of remembrance has been set up in the reception ares of the Football Association of Wales (FAW) headquarters in Cardiff. An area outside has been set aside as a garden of remembrance.
The FAW said: "We extend our sympathies and condolences to the family. We ask that everyone – especially the media – respects the family's privacy at this very sad time.
"Gary was appointed one year ago and was given the brief to prepare the Wales senior squad for qualification to the Fifa 2014 World Cup in Brazil. During his year in charge, the results and performances in the final European Championship qualifiers and friendly games suggested that there were strong grounds for optimism that the team could challenge for a place in the finals in three years' time."
The FAW praised Speed's exemplary career, describing him as a versatile player who could feature in midfield as well as defence.
In a statement, it said everyone at the FAW admired his passion for the job and "that this tragedy should have taken someone so young and talented is a huge loss not only for his family and friends, but as a nation as a whole".
The chief executive, Jonathan Ford, said he was devastated by the news of the death, adding that his thoughts and prayers were with Speed's wife and family.
Speed's former Newcastle United teammate Shay Given, who attended a charity fundraising event with him in May, broke down in tears on television as a minute's silence was held at the start of Swansea City's match against Aston Villa. Fans joined in a chant of: "There's only one Gary Speed."
At Anfield, Liverpool's Welsh player Craig Bellamy asked not to play against Manchester City after hearing the news of his manager's death. A series of players joined in the tributes on social networking sites.
Speed was awarded an MBE in the 2010 Queen's birthday honours list and retired from playing the same year after winning 85 caps for his country.
He represented Leeds United, Everton, Newcastle and Bolton Wanderers during his lengthy and successful career. Fans left flowers at the Leeds ground, Elland Road, on Monday.
Speed's parents were from Chester but he was born in the Welsh border town of Mancot and was always proud to represent Wales. His father, Roger Speed, played football for Wrexham before returning to his trade as a joiner.
Flags outside the Welsh assembly in Cardiff were flying at half-mast on Monday.
Manchester United player Michael Owen, who went to the same school as Speed, said he was devastated and that when the news broke, the whole of Cheshire was in "utter shock and disbelief".
A spokesman for Downing Street said: "The prime minister was deeply saddened to hear of the death of Gary Speed, who was greatly respected by football fans across the country both as a player and manager. The prime minister's thoughts are with his family and friends on this very sad day for fans everywhere, especially in Wales."
Plaid Cymru assembly member Bethan Jenkins called on fellow politicians to observe a minute's silence during Tuesday's plenary session.
Helen Carter
guardian.co.uk,
An inquest will open on Tuesday into the death of the Wales football manager Gary Speed at his home in Cheshire.
A spokeswoman for the coroner, Nicholas Rheinberg, confirmed her office had been informed of the death by police. The inquest will be opened at the coroner's court at Warrington town hall before a full hearing takes place at a later date.
Speed, 42, was found by his wife, Louise, in the garage of their home in the village of Huntington, near Chester, shortly after 7am on Sunday. Police said the death was not being treated as suspicious. The couple lived in Huntington with their two teenage sons, and Speed was said to have been a devoted family man.
At a later date, the coroner will establish the cause of death. It has been widely reported that Speed took his own life, but this has yet to be confirmed officially.
A Cheshire police spokeswoman said: "Officers went to the scene where a 42-year-old man was found dead. The next of kin have been informed and have confirmed the identity of the man as Gary Speed.
"There are no suspicious circumstances surrounding the death. The family have requested that they are left in peace to grieve at this difficult time."
The previous day, Speed had appeared on BBC1's Football Focus programme talking enthusiastically about his team's improved fortunes and his hopes for success in World Cup qualifying matches in 2012.
Dan Walker, a presenter who spent four hours with him on Saturday, described his friend as "as bubbly as I've known him".
"He was talking about his kids, how they were really coming on and talking about playing golf next week," he said.
"It's awful to think someone who was so gifted and so well liked, with the rest of his life to look forward to, has been cruelly removed. He was in such a good mood about the show and said he'd love to come back before Christmas."
A book of remembrance has been set up in the reception ares of the Football Association of Wales (FAW) headquarters in Cardiff. An area outside has been set aside as a garden of remembrance.
The FAW said: "We extend our sympathies and condolences to the family. We ask that everyone – especially the media – respects the family's privacy at this very sad time.
"Gary was appointed one year ago and was given the brief to prepare the Wales senior squad for qualification to the Fifa 2014 World Cup in Brazil. During his year in charge, the results and performances in the final European Championship qualifiers and friendly games suggested that there were strong grounds for optimism that the team could challenge for a place in the finals in three years' time."
The FAW praised Speed's exemplary career, describing him as a versatile player who could feature in midfield as well as defence.
In a statement, it said everyone at the FAW admired his passion for the job and "that this tragedy should have taken someone so young and talented is a huge loss not only for his family and friends, but as a nation as a whole".
The chief executive, Jonathan Ford, said he was devastated by the news of the death, adding that his thoughts and prayers were with Speed's wife and family.
Speed's former Newcastle United teammate Shay Given, who attended a charity fundraising event with him in May, broke down in tears on television as a minute's silence was held at the start of Swansea City's match against Aston Villa. Fans joined in a chant of: "There's only one Gary Speed."
At Anfield, Liverpool's Welsh player Craig Bellamy asked not to play against Manchester City after hearing the news of his manager's death. A series of players joined in the tributes on social networking sites.
Speed was awarded an MBE in the 2010 Queen's birthday honours list and retired from playing the same year after winning 85 caps for his country.
He represented Leeds United, Everton, Newcastle and Bolton Wanderers during his lengthy and successful career. Fans left flowers at the Leeds ground, Elland Road, on Monday.
Speed's parents were from Chester but he was born in the Welsh border town of Mancot and was always proud to represent Wales. His father, Roger Speed, played football for Wrexham before returning to his trade as a joiner.
Flags outside the Welsh assembly in Cardiff were flying at half-mast on Monday.
Manchester United player Michael Owen, who went to the same school as Speed, said he was devastated and that when the news broke, the whole of Cheshire was in "utter shock and disbelief".
A spokesman for Downing Street said: "The prime minister was deeply saddened to hear of the death of Gary Speed, who was greatly respected by football fans across the country both as a player and manager. The prime minister's thoughts are with his family and friends on this very sad day for fans everywhere, especially in Wales."
Plaid Cymru assembly member Bethan Jenkins called on fellow politicians to observe a minute's silence during Tuesday's plenary session.
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Gary so well liked by the public, that we all want to know why this happened.
"Police said the death was not being treated as suspicious."
They need to get a Mr. Monk or Sherlock Holmes on the case. Accepting things as they appear is rather naive.
They need to get a Mr. Monk or Sherlock Holmes on the case. Accepting things as they appear is rather naive.
Not being treated as suspicious is standard line for meaning it was not murder and therefore not the police's responsibilty. The reasons he did it may well be suspicious which will be found out in the inquest.
Very interesting how Robbie Savage and his close pals have not mentioned his wife but do mention his Dad and sons a lot.
The-Mouth says it all, wait b4 you make comments because we WILL get to know, don't worry.
les said the better at this stage unless YOU know something in which case your presence is required, tommorrow afternoon!
les said the better at this stage unless YOU know something in which case your presence is required, tommorrow afternoon!
people should step back and let the facts come
to the surface.
to the surface.
no mention of letter left--you would think a message left for sons at least
not sure what percentage of suicides who dont leave a letter
not sure what percentage of suicides who dont leave a letter
No business of anybody but the family for now, is it. The vultures will have to wait for the inquest.
'Vultures' seems harsh.
It's got people scratching
their heads, that's all.
It's got people scratching
their heads, that's all.
at this most diffcult times for the family,i would hope this forum would celebrate his endevors and targets which he has gained.he was muched loved,and will be missed.,
Exactly, perhaps only Gary will ever know, what happened
in the garage.
in the garage.
There will be no additional information given at this week's inquest.It will be a formal opening and last just a few minutes.
a talented footballer ,looked to be heading for a real career in management at a young age ,all rubbing off on all the people he touched in his life steeped in nice to be nice ,now all gone wrong , appeared to be a breath of fresh air to his fellow countrymen . R.I.P. GARRY SPEED A huge loss to YOUR FAMILLY ...FRIENDS and RELATIONS ..Living the future , lives with everyone forever ,SAD SAD LOSS , NEVER FORGOTTEN ........... Never known more toubled times than at present for many people....................... one reason or another ..
i think it is not relevant imo as to "why" as if he had troubles they are his and his family's..an icon in the sports world for many many reasons and just such a huge loss at such a young age, may his soul rest in peace and whatever is dug up should be forgotten and let his family, friends and fans deal with their loss...I have not read a newspaper apart from RP in nearly 18 months because I am sick of the gutter they dig up and ruin peoples lives and no doubt they will try again to take the shine off a magnificent career and role model to many
good news doesnt sell newspapers ,thats why they are at a crossroads of what is acceptable and whats not ,only ever sold all papers looking for top up, when bad news on the go ,,the way it is in the industry .once the inquiry gets the ok today , GARY SPEED S life willbe in the public domain , and all that entails . hope it remains dignified at least till the funeral is over . the family deserve that whatever the future brings ....all our thoughts are with them at this time .a giant of a man to his chosen profession ,SADLY MISSED .
three factors worth considering; (1) why hanging, not tablets, whisky or whatever? (2) did you ever think anything could be wrong in the life of TIGER WOODS?
(3) did you ever think there could be anything wrong in the life of RYAN GIGGS?
speculation isn't necessary, I've got my own idea(s) and you have yours but, for sake of the family left behind (for whatever reason!), we'll refrain from further comment, eh?
(3) did you ever think there could be anything wrong in the life of RYAN GIGGS?
speculation isn't necessary, I've got my own idea(s) and you have yours but, for sake of the family left behind (for whatever reason!), we'll refrain from further comment, eh?
Gary Speed hadn't argued with his wife and he wasn't depressed: Suicide footballer had a happy marriage, says agent
The Wales manager’s agent and best man Hayden Evans said Speed was ‘happily married’ and that his widow Louise is bewildered by his suspected suicide.
Mr Evans said: ‘They were happily married and anyone who knows them will tell you that. This is why it is a mystery.
‘We genuinely at the moment have no clue whatsoever what has caused it and I have been with the family all day.
‘Everybody is asking the same question and no one has an answer. We are all in shock.’
When asked about the circumstances behind Speed's death and whether the Wales boss had argued with Louise before killing himself, Evans added: 'Louise is saying that's not the case. She just doesn't understand it.'
When asked if 42-year-old Speed had suffered bouts of depression, Mr Evans said ‘none whatsoever’.
He added: ‘The one thing the family and me as one of his closest friends would totally refute is that. There was no indication of any problems and never has been’.
Speed appeared happy as he left the BBC studios in Salford on Saturday afternoon after filming Football Focus. His wife found him hanged in the garage of their £1.5million mansion near Chester just after 7am on Sunday.
The Wales manager’s agent and best man Hayden Evans said Speed was ‘happily married’ and that his widow Louise is bewildered by his suspected suicide.
Mr Evans said: ‘They were happily married and anyone who knows them will tell you that. This is why it is a mystery.
‘We genuinely at the moment have no clue whatsoever what has caused it and I have been with the family all day.
‘Everybody is asking the same question and no one has an answer. We are all in shock.’
When asked about the circumstances behind Speed's death and whether the Wales boss had argued with Louise before killing himself, Evans added: 'Louise is saying that's not the case. She just doesn't understand it.'
When asked if 42-year-old Speed had suffered bouts of depression, Mr Evans said ‘none whatsoever’.
He added: ‘The one thing the family and me as one of his closest friends would totally refute is that. There was no indication of any problems and never has been’.
Speed appeared happy as he left the BBC studios in Salford on Saturday afternoon after filming Football Focus. His wife found him hanged in the garage of their £1.5million mansion near Chester just after 7am on Sunday.
Remember Vinnie Jones in his book said he was intent on suicide for a brief time after he had retired from playing, can't be underestimated the difficulty of readjusting to life after a long career playing. But I do think it is unforgiveable to do that to your family.
'matt' YOU don't KNOW what he's done to his family!
wait, pls!
wait, pls!
bruce4syth 29 Nov 11 12:25
three factors worth considering; (1) why hanging, not tablets, whisky or whatever? (2) did you ever think anything could be wrong in the life of TIGER WOODS?
(3) did you ever think there could be anything wrong in the life of RYAN GIGGS?
speculation isn't necessary, I've got my own idea(s) and you have yours but, for sake of the family left behind (for whatever reason!), we'll refrain from further comment, eh?
but you had to !
three factors worth considering; (1) why hanging, not tablets, whisky or whatever? (2) did you ever think anything could be wrong in the life of TIGER WOODS?
(3) did you ever think there could be anything wrong in the life of RYAN GIGGS?
speculation isn't necessary, I've got my own idea(s) and you have yours but, for sake of the family left behind (for whatever reason!), we'll refrain from further comment, eh?
but you had to !
Footballer Joey Barton was at the centre of controversy today over comments he made on Twitter about the death of Gary Speed, describing suicide as a 'selfish' act.
Despite an outcry from other users on the social networking site, the QPR captain has refused to apologise for his 'insensitive' comments.
Welsh football legend Gary Speed was tragically found hanged at his home on Sunday morning in what is thought to have been suicide.
Like countless others, Barton took to Twitter to speak of his shock at Speed's death and to pay tribute to him.
He posted: 'Just hearing about Gary Speed, to say am shocked is an understatement.
'My thoughts are with his family and friends. Really sad news.'
However, his tributes were then swiftly followed - with astonishingly tactless timing - by his views on suicide.
The outspoken footballer added: 'Suicide is a mix of the most tragic, most selfish, most terrible (and I want to believe preventable) acts out there.'
As Twitter users bombarded Barton in an online backlash, the star - unrepentant - branded his critics as having 'half a brain' instead of apologising for his offensive comments.
He added: 'Feedback on here, small minority as usual strongly disagree with what I said. If they read carefully or had half a brain, they'd understand.'
Last night his comments were criticised by football fans and suicide counselling groups, with Malcolm Clarke - chairman of the Football Supporters' Federation - telling the Daily Star: 'This is completely insensitive and inappropriate.
'It is disrespectful to Gary's family. We should be concentrating on the positive impact he made on the game at a time like this.'
Meanwhile counsellor Beth Neil, from the Welsh branch of Survivors of Bereavement By Suicide, added: 'He has no idea what kind of trauma Gary was going through. This is just sick.'
Many Twitter users also rounded on Barton. One user, Leazeslad, said: If anyone is in any doubt about what a p**** Joey Barton is, read his tweet about selfishness and suicide, on this day of all days.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2067440/Joey-Bartons-Gary-Speed-comm...
Despite an outcry from other users on the social networking site, the QPR captain has refused to apologise for his 'insensitive' comments.
Welsh football legend Gary Speed was tragically found hanged at his home on Sunday morning in what is thought to have been suicide.
Like countless others, Barton took to Twitter to speak of his shock at Speed's death and to pay tribute to him.
He posted: 'Just hearing about Gary Speed, to say am shocked is an understatement.
'My thoughts are with his family and friends. Really sad news.'
However, his tributes were then swiftly followed - with astonishingly tactless timing - by his views on suicide.
The outspoken footballer added: 'Suicide is a mix of the most tragic, most selfish, most terrible (and I want to believe preventable) acts out there.'
As Twitter users bombarded Barton in an online backlash, the star - unrepentant - branded his critics as having 'half a brain' instead of apologising for his offensive comments.
He added: 'Feedback on here, small minority as usual strongly disagree with what I said. If they read carefully or had half a brain, they'd understand.'
Last night his comments were criticised by football fans and suicide counselling groups, with Malcolm Clarke - chairman of the Football Supporters' Federation - telling the Daily Star: 'This is completely insensitive and inappropriate.
'It is disrespectful to Gary's family. We should be concentrating on the positive impact he made on the game at a time like this.'
Meanwhile counsellor Beth Neil, from the Welsh branch of Survivors of Bereavement By Suicide, added: 'He has no idea what kind of trauma Gary was going through. This is just sick.'
Many Twitter users also rounded on Barton. One user, Leazeslad, said: If anyone is in any doubt about what a p**** Joey Barton is, read his tweet about selfishness and suicide, on this day of all days.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2067440/Joey-Bartons-Gary-Speed-comm...
As much as i hate to say it,the only explaination that would figure if all above are correct about being happy,no note etc,etc is a Michael Hutchence game gone wrong.But what do we knoow?
Wales manager Gary Speed's body was found by his wife Louise, an inquest has revealed.
The Wales football manager's inquest was opened and adjourned, after a coroner confirmed there were no suspicious circumstances surrounding his death.
A full hearing will take place at Warrington Coroner's Court at a later date.
It comes after friends rebuffed speculation about his private life, which had been prompted by the 42-year-old's apparent suicide
The Wales football manager's inquest was opened and adjourned, after a coroner confirmed there were no suspicious circumstances surrounding his death.
A full hearing will take place at Warrington Coroner's Court at a later date.
It comes after friends rebuffed speculation about his private life, which had been prompted by the 42-year-old's apparent suicide
I've already commented on another thread re this matter, and if there's one thing in life I've learned, is not to pre-judge.
The one thing that does puzzle me is this....‘happily married’ and that his widow Louise is bewildered by his suspected suicide.
I can only speak from a personal point of view, but if I found mrs stew hanged in my home, I wouldn't be bewildered, I'd be devastated and still under sedation.
That's not to say anything dodgy was going on, because as I pointed out before, most people who take their lives, usually appear very happy beforehand, due, apparently, to the fact it will soon be all over. (whatever the suffering is)
The one thing that does puzzle me is this....‘happily married’ and that his widow Louise is bewildered by his suspected suicide.
I can only speak from a personal point of view, but if I found mrs stew hanged in my home, I wouldn't be bewildered, I'd be devastated and still under sedation.
That's not to say anything dodgy was going on, because as I pointed out before, most people who take their lives, usually appear very happy beforehand, due, apparently, to the fact it will soon be all over. (whatever the suffering is)
At least he only took his own life, there have been cases, were people have taken the lives of thier loved ones (wife and kids)prior to taking their own
Cheers
Cheers
A friend of mine committed suicide ten days after getting married.
Although there was no hard evidence he had problems with his new wife.... she defo knew more than ever came out at his inquest.
To this day four years on, we still don't know what really went on behind closed doors.
Although there was no hard evidence he had problems with his new wife.... she defo knew more than ever came out at his inquest.
To this day four years on, we still don't know what really went on behind closed doors.
Stewarty, Mrs Speed didn't say "I'm bewildered" I'm not sure if Gary Speed's agent used that word either, I think it's just an unfortunate choice of adjective by the the Daily Mail reporter.
Yep, don't think Mrs Speed should be judged for the reporter's choice of phrase.
sad situation...........i doubt if the full story will come out
and thats what keeps it going R.I.P.
and thats what keeps it going R.I.P.
i work for a mental health trust so have experienced the effect suicide can have on families. gary speed had is own reasons for taking his own life and whilst i would never judge him or anyone else for that matter, my overiding feelings as a mom and parent is that if what is being reported is fact , then quite possibly one of his children could so easily have found him in the garage instead of his wife. that for me is a selfish act. i hope his family eventually find strength and are able to move on with their lives.
7am is also am odd time. the night before he went to sleep knowing he was going to top himself first thing in the morning. where was his wife at the time, she must have been asleep. it cant be all organised in 2 minutes, if she was awake she must surely be wondering where he was.
facts
stupid ignorant comment is it. have you ever witnessed a person trying to hang themselves and running to get a ligature cutter to cut them dowm. hardly a sight for anybody to witnesss let alone a child.
have you ever seen anybody trying to hang themselves , and running to try and get a ligature cutter to cut them down. hardly a sight for anybody to witness let alone children.
stupid ignorant comment is it. have you ever witnessed a person trying to hang themselves and running to get a ligature cutter to cut them dowm. hardly a sight for anybody to witnesss let alone a child.
have you ever seen anybody trying to hang themselves , and running to try and get a ligature cutter to cut them down. hardly a sight for anybody to witness let alone children.
the only person who could possibly know why he did it is mrs speed
no doubt she will speak to the press in due course
no doubt she will speak to the press in due course
something led to this tragedy, and the public have a right to know, to change the current beliefs and philosophies of the world today e.g if you cheat on your wife you are scum, and a social outcast, or other behaviours which the public consider disgusting. Instead of castigating people like Tiger Woods, Ryan Giggs etc in the media, and we all make fun of them as they are public figures, the media need to understand the damage they are doing and that these people need help, guidance, whatever. A less aggressive reporting style would help heal the world.
diktat......not an odd time.
i live by some big cliffs......&.often sunrise is the time as if they cant face this day.
i live by some big cliffs......&.often sunrise is the time as if they cant face this day.
indeed mad dog..
as teenage boys they would have been so proud to have him as a father
as teenage boys they would have been so proud to have him as a father
latest, from a source, suggests mrs speed was intent on leaving gary and taking kids with her...I know no more but, unfortunately, it figures and why was the agent so adamant nowt was wrong?
bruce...think it more likely to be a case of deppression rather than his mrs leaving him
we'll see m8 but one thing for sure TRUTH is gonna hurt real bad!
What on earth was he depressed about??
According to those close to him there was nothing wrong.
Everything in his work going well,young doting kids,plenty of money and a loving wife.
Either someones lying or he did not commit suicide.
According to those close to him there was nothing wrong.
Everything in his work going well,young doting kids,plenty of money and a loving wife.
Either someones lying or he did not commit suicide.
I know nothing bruce ....but that has allways been my mindset....we shouldent be
judgeing it......but these women do what they like......& get court support
judgeing it......but these women do what they like......& get court support
Im hearing rumours that a tabloid was about to run a story, would explain why he went from being 100% the evening before to doing what he did that morning. Strict laws on the tabloids need to be brought in
nashwan
ignorant comment to say that it was a selfish act - because one of his children could have found him. If you're so involved in this aspect, you should surely realise that there is no rationale of thought going through the persons mind at the time of the 'act'.
ignorant comment to say that it was a selfish act - because one of his children could have found him. If you're so involved in this aspect, you should surely realise that there is no rationale of thought going through the persons mind at the time of the 'act'.
fact
i am not going to argue or debate this with you especially on this thread, and to a degree i take your point about the mindset of suicides but you can also have rational suicides where the person knows exactly what they are doing and just choose to end their life. the only person who knows is no longer here.
i am not going to argue or debate this with you especially on this thread, and to a degree i take your point about the mindset of suicides but you can also have rational suicides where the person knows exactly what they are doing and just choose to end their life. the only person who knows is no longer here.
Agree with mange facts, although has very little to beat
Slippy you cannot just post that. How would you know? What does it involve?
You know what?
Why don't you all just stfu and wait until you know the facts?
This country tilts me so hard sometimes
Why don't you all just stfu and wait until you know the facts?
This country tilts me so hard sometimes
about time the speculation stopped.Only person who knows
what happened and why is Speed,himself.Maybe the inquest
will throw something up,until then people should now let
the matter rest.
what happened and why is Speed,himself.Maybe the inquest
will throw something up,until then people should now let
the matter rest.
Unfortunately Chompy this is how people are it looks worse because it is written but there will be men all over pubs this week asking why he did it. It is no disrespect to the man who was clearly loved and admired by many, but this is what happens.
Sky Sports dedications...Sky Sports New infatuation...rounds of applause...minute's silence...front ten pages of newspapers...
But nobody yet knows WHY he did it. What if it turns out to be something bad? The post-Diana fawning this nation seems to set about now is beyond a joke.
If he committed suicide through depression, his death is NO sadder than that of anyone else committing suicide.
This country really needs to get over itself sometimes.
I'm sure there are loads out there thinking similar.
But nobody yet knows WHY he did it. What if it turns out to be something bad? The post-Diana fawning this nation seems to set about now is beyond a joke.
If he committed suicide through depression, his death is NO sadder than that of anyone else committing suicide.
This country really needs to get over itself sometimes.
I'm sure there are loads out there thinking similar.
Perhaps.why.what.if.maybe.how.strange.shock.unbelievable.surreal.stunned.non... united.handsome.loved.kids.wife.father.sister.funeral.buried.remembered.life...
I really cant understand why someone would hang themselves with the intention of death
surely sleeping pills are the way to go and saves some poor person from having to live with the trauma of a swinging dead body for the rest of their lives..i can only speculate as to why this was the chosen method..and ian curtis and michael hutchence and auto asphyxia is the only logical reason i can come up with.my best regards to his family.
surely sleeping pills are the way to go and saves some poor person from having to live with the trauma of a swinging dead body for the rest of their lives..i can only speculate as to why this was the chosen method..and ian curtis and michael hutchence and auto asphyxia is the only logical reason i can come up with.my best regards to his family.
the outcome of his actions is bad enough but knowing his wife or kids would find him like that just beggars belief.
Some people have very little to live for and it's only the thought of what it might do to others that keeps them from ending it all - I have every sympathy with anyone in that position, especially if it's chronic, but I'm sure in every case if the worse came to the worst, there'd ALWAYS be people CLOSE, claiming to never having any idea!
I'm well versed with such situations having knew people that've threw the towel in, and as I see it, there are many voicing unqualified opinions that really ain't got a clue.
It really ain't a nice subject for a forum guys, and that's why (until now) I've done my utmost to stay away from all these threads
I'm well versed with such situations having knew people that've threw the towel in, and as I see it, there are many voicing unqualified opinions that really ain't got a clue.
It really ain't a nice subject for a forum guys, and that's why (until now) I've done my utmost to stay away from all these threads
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What on earth was he depressed about??
According to those close to him there was nothing wrong.
Everything in his work going well,young doting kids,plenty of money and a loving wife.
Either someones lying or HE DID NOT commit suicide.
as a forum, notwithstanding those who 'voice' silly, immature postings, this is the only one making any sensemy first thought(s) 'hope this 'crime scene' is preseverved!'
do you realise how easy it would be for a small gang to abduct anyone, demand a 'pin' number and do whatever subsequently?
the police (bless 'em!) have assured us there are no suspicious circumstances, the same 'body' which 'knee-jerked' so dramaticallly and arrested chris jefferies for murdering jo yeates as it went round in circles.
as an avid watcher of crime on sky I'm afraid my cynicism stretches too far but the programmes are educational, somne scenarios are unbelievable and so how people can post amidst an out-pouring of grief is totally incomprehensible, and unnecessary.
mine is to introduce another dimension, the above should not be viewed disrespectfully, I'm genuinely sorry about the fate of gary speed but from experience of newspaper 'conferences' when editors and associates hammer out 'what's new' and pool ideas for forthcoming publications I'm thinking way beyond the ordinary, genuine person in the street.
perhaps it will all come out in the wash, perhaps it wont but this will be remembered for decades as a tragedy.
ATB
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What on earth was he depressed about??
According to those close to him there was nothing wrong.
Everything in his work going well,young doting kids,plenty of money and a loving wife.
Either someones lying or HE DID NOT commit suicide.
as a forum, notwithstanding those who 'voice' silly, immature postings, this is the only one making any sensemy first thought(s) 'hope this 'crime scene' is preseverved!'
do you realise how easy it would be for a small gang to abduct anyone, demand a 'pin' number and do whatever subsequently?
the police (bless 'em!) have assured us there are no suspicious circumstances, the same 'body' which 'knee-jerked' so dramaticallly and arrested chris jefferies for murdering jo yeates as it went round in circles.
as an avid watcher of crime on sky I'm afraid my cynicism stretches too far but the programmes are educational, somne scenarios are unbelievable and so how people can post amidst an out-pouring of grief is totally incomprehensible, and unnecessary.
mine is to introduce another dimension, the above should not be viewed disrespectfully, I'm genuinely sorry about the fate of gary speed but from experience of newspaper 'conferences' when editors and associates hammer out 'what's new' and pool ideas for forthcoming publications I'm thinking way beyond the ordinary, genuine person in the street.
perhaps it will all come out in the wash, perhaps it wont but this will be remembered for decades as a tragedy.
ATB
as an avid watcher of crime on sky I'm afraid my cynicism stretches too far but the programmes are educational
this has to be one of the most unwittingly ironic statements I have ever read on this forum
do you realise how easy it would be for a small gang to abduct anyone, demand a 'pin' number and do whatever subsequently?
"whatever subsequently" would be withdraw 300 quid from an atm, then have to wait until the next day, presuming this bunch or moriartys had the brains they could wait until 11.50pm and get themselves £600, still not a great return on killing a man and leaving no clue until the next months bank statments arrives by which time the gang will have divyd the dough up and spread to the four winds
According to those close to him there was nothing wrong
According to people close to Pol Pot he was good to his mum and some of the things he sayed were just misconstrued by over eager followers.....
this has to be one of the most unwittingly ironic statements I have ever read on this forum
do you realise how easy it would be for a small gang to abduct anyone, demand a 'pin' number and do whatever subsequently?
"whatever subsequently" would be withdraw 300 quid from an atm, then have to wait until the next day, presuming this bunch or moriartys had the brains they could wait until 11.50pm and get themselves £600, still not a great return on killing a man and leaving no clue until the next months bank statments arrives by which time the gang will have divyd the dough up and spread to the four winds
According to those close to him there was nothing wrong
According to people close to Pol Pot he was good to his mum and some of the things he sayed were just misconstrued by over eager followers.....
Makes you wonder if a few of these male sounding id's are really women they love a bit of scandal and gossip? why don't people mind their own business its got absolutely nothing at all to do with them , imagine it was your own family and you had 1000.s of internet sleuths coming up with all this about your daughter son wife doubt you would feel so clever then.
i just pray to god one day i will reach your standards
Jesus i thought he was referring to me and i must now apologise i blame sainsberries 18 cans £10 offer i can see it all ending badly.
What on earth was he depressed about??
According to those close to him there was nothing wrong.
Everything in his work going well,young doting kids,plenty of money and a loving wife.
Either someones lying or HE DID NOT commit suicide.
as a forum, notwithstanding those who 'voice' silly, immature postings, this is the only one making any sense
LMFAO. Not read many bruce4syth posts but pretty much every one has made him look a ****
The opening line is too absurd for words. Learn the game thicket.
According to those close to him there was nothing wrong.
Everything in his work going well,young doting kids,plenty of money and a loving wife.
Either someones lying or HE DID NOT commit suicide.
as a forum, notwithstanding those who 'voice' silly, immature postings, this is the only one making any sense
LMFAO. Not read many bruce4syth posts but pretty much every one has made him look a ****
The opening line is too absurd for words. Learn the game thicket.
think theres a question mark 3 down at the end
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The unexpectedness and suddenness of his actions seem to suggest this was an event brought on by an immediate external crisis rather than a lingering illness. I suspect the proverbial was about to hit the fan and rather than bring shame on his family and his own ruination he chose to bring matters to a sudden conclusion.
Whether he was under any police investigation or not I imagine will only become clearer at the inquest.
Whether he was under any police investigation or not I imagine will only become clearer at the inquest.
re. above. lost a line.....than a lingering internal mental distress. I wonder if he realised the proverbial was about to hit....
There was probably some hidden catastrophe in his life that left him feeling he had no way out. Don't think long term depressive illness was the reason here.
Think youre probably right AT and the trouble with being famous is you are more likely to feel that the world wont forget.
If he was under investigation I'm inclined to think The Coroner will use his discretion and rather than cause the family further distress whatever it is will not be made public. Also the friends in high places will ensure everything is resolved behind closed doors.
If you look closeley at his eyes in the recent pictures of him then it is clear, well to me anyway, that he had his demons. I have been told that there is an underlying issue that will probably never be revealed.
Nov 30, 2011 -- 12:14PM, Slippy Blue wrote:
If you look closeley at his eyes in the recent pictures of him then it is clear, well to me anyway, that he had his demons. I have been told that there is an underlying issue that will probably never be revealed.
how many people have come on here saying "they have been told" - crazy. i do think though that long term mental illness / depression seems more and more unlikely
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