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11 Nov 11 10:13
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He had the odd good horse here and there and I remember him having the one two in the Cambridgeshire with Tobermory Boy winning,

but can't remember any other horses or what happened to him, can you ?!

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By:
Topscore57
When: 11 Nov 11 10:25
Full Extent
By:
sandysboy
When: 11 Nov 11 10:28
Dont know what happened to him but he used to train at side of the M1 near Barnsley I think
By:
Topscore57
When: 11 Nov 11 10:30
High Hoyland, i think he still lives there.
By:
wee eck
When: 11 Nov 11 10:35
Full extent, won the gymcrack at odds of 7-1 I was lucky enough

to have had a £500-70, I think the winning jockey was J Lowe.
By:
knot in wood
When: 11 Nov 11 10:45
had a big string in the late 80s around 70-80 horses,all of a sudden had dropped to 20/30 for some reason.
used to get some info from the yard manny years ago,silkstone and dardinella lady are two who stick in the mind.
By:
ged
When: 11 Nov 11 10:47
Goodbye Shelley? - did it win that G1 2yo fillies race over a mile at Longchamp?

Leysh?

Had a horse that did well in amateur riders races - Meekah? or something. Won the first at Chester one day.
By:
timeless
When: 11 Nov 11 10:50
so far, only Leysh rings a bell Crazy
By:
ged
When: 11 Nov 11 10:52
did he train Ubedizzy?
By:
ged
When: 11 Nov 11 11:00
I remember a horse called Let Me Play of Norton's that ran in the last race on the card at Chester one day. The horse stumbled badly on the turn-in and unseated its jockey. As we left to go home, I saw the lad walking down the middle of the course with a lead rope to retrieve his horse who was being held by someone. He got to about the furlong pole and saw that the horse's foot was hanging off, and turned on his heel and walked back in tears. I almost cried with him. One of the saddest things I've seen on a racecourse - the horse's name seemed to make it all the worse somehow.
By:
timeless
When: 11 Nov 11 11:06
it's horrible when we see it on the telly so it must be devastating for those who care for them day in day out Sad
By:
ged
When: 11 Nov 11 11:16
Mr Confusion

Angel something
By:
AlainCharnier..Macau.
When: 11 Nov 11 11:17
Myra Nesbitt was Ubedizzy.
By:
timeless
When: 11 Nov 11 11:19
bloody hell,

how could I forget Mr Confusion,

the most ridiculous disqualification ever,

after Royal Gait of course !
By:
Topscore57
When: 11 Nov 11 12:06
High Estates, think was listed class i 80's
By:
Prince Rupert
When: 11 Nov 11 13:01
Timeless, Leysh was the one that won the Cambridgeshire (at 33/1) under John Lowe with the more fancied stablemate Morwray Boy ridden by Tyrone Williams second at 11/1. I will never forget, because I did the forecast, as well as backing them both. 1984 it was.
By:
timeless
When: 11 Nov 11 13:04
LOL, nice one for remembering,

I wonder who trained Tobermory Boy/Lad Grin
By:
onlooker
When: 11 Nov 11 14:43
I have Steve Norton listed with just 4 horses in 1966.

In 1968 he had increased to 16 - mostly Jumpers.

By 1971 he had 46 - and was training at Silkstone.

Jockeys: Steve Natriss(NH) - Apprentices: M Wood (7st) Steve Goulding (6st 7lb)

Nothing of serious note, though - and I cannot see any owners who may have 'bankrolled' him - leading me to think that he did it on his own.

The infamous Ken Richardson was one of his owners, though.

In 1982 he had 55 horses listed - 25 of whom were 2-yr-olds, including Goodbye Shelley and Parissaul... the 2-yr-0lds no doubt arriving on the strength of Full Extent's exploits as a juvenile, the year before.

Stable jockey: John Lowe (7st 8lb)

Amongst the owners were the Brooks - with Sandy Brook being bis Lady Rider.

He went on to have an even stronger team in the rest of the 1980s -

Re: the Cambridgeshire, when he had 1st and 2nd -
I well remember reading in the Life, at the time (Alastair, I think) - that 'he had never seen so many  blank faces in a winner's enclosure' - and that 'perhaps the wrong one had won'.
By:
tip1uk
When: 11 Nov 11 14:49
It was Sandy brooks who bankrolled Steve (knocker) Norton
One of his better horses was Laser Lady. Steve was a good
judge but unfortunately the drink got the better of him
By:
timeless
When: 11 Nov 11 14:50
nice research onlooker,

and I remember that quote too !
By:
Shalimah
When: 11 Nov 11 20:54
Ollie Pears who now trains was apprentice rider there for quite some time.
Tobermorry Boy was trained by Whitaker
By:
Gibberish
When: 11 Nov 11 20:57
The winner was Leysh and I'm not sure about the second but it could have been something like Melton Mowbray.

Leysh definitely was the winner...I backed it at 33/1!
By:
Gibberish
When: 11 Nov 11 20:57
The winner was Leysh and I'm not sure about the second but it could have been something like Melton Mowbray.

Leysh definitely was the winner...I backed it at 33/1!
By:
timeless
When: 11 Nov 11 21:00
you've done well not to read thru the thread.
By:
Gibberish
When: 11 Nov 11 21:17
I missed Prince Rupert's post!
By:
onlooker
When: 11 Nov 11 21:17
Tobermoray Boy ended up with Jack Hardy, as an 8 year old, after Whittaker.
By:
sparrow
When: 11 Nov 11 21:20
Onlooker, In the 1970s I backed a horse called Vulwell, trained by Norton he won a Selling Hurdle at Catterick or Wetherby at odds of 33/1. Do you have any details of this please?
By:
ringlets
When: 11 Nov 11 22:57
Didn't he have a good novice hurdler called Nerak? I think it won the Victor Ludorum at Haydock.
By:
onlooker
When: 11 Nov 11 23:14
I will find it, sparrow.

It does ring a bit of a bell - bet is was a Vulgan offspring.

Off out for my Friday night pint(s) now -

So please look in again tomorrow.
By:
Gerry Gallbladder
When: 11 Nov 11 23:35
Feck me onlooker - it's 23:14 and you're off out for a pint! Must be blood lust imo.
By:
tip1uk
When: 11 Nov 11 23:53
Vulwell was a vulgan mare. It was at Teeside when it won at 33/1
I can remember asking Leslie Steele for a 5000 to 100 and he took
it with a smile on his face as I reminded him that after it had finished it's previous race well beaten, it pulled up abruptly just after the winning line and started to have pick of grass.

I had only backed it because knockers had told me it had never worked
better. Les was steaming and still moaned about it for years after
By:
daniels mother
When: 12 Nov 11 00:10
goodbye shelley won the prix marcel boussac at longchamp paid around 37/1 on the PMU ,it was on the day ardross got beat in a photo in the arc (possibly 1982 )
By:
pension fund
When: 12 Nov 11 00:18
I rode a horse for him at Redcar once. Around 1977/78 I think. He said to me "Don't be afraid to give him a smack". I'd have been done under the current rules.Mischief

As mentioned Nerak was a good juvenile hurdler he trained. Steve died young many years ago.
By:
onlooker
When: 12 Nov 11 04:01
Court Harwell
                      Harwell
                                      East Africa
VULWELL               
                                   VulganGrin
                      Killeany Castle
                                      Manzanillo

Appeared to have a short career ...

Ran 4 times unplaced as a 4-yr-old over Hurdles, for Steve Norton

Ran just 7 times in the following season - 1975/76 - in either Opportunity (Conditionals, nowadays) Handicap Hurdles, or Selling Handicap Hurdles.

It did nothing - other than WIN a Selling Handicap Hurdle - as posted above - on Friday February 27th 1976 - on Firm ground.

2-15 Lord Lovetin Handicap Hurdle (Selling) 2m 5f.

1.  VULWELL(bl) - 6-9-9 G Graham*5
     (hdway 6th. led 3 out, ridden, ran on well)
2.  Sweet Dough - 4-10-8 Tommy Stack
3.  Viaduct - 7-10-13 Joe Crowley

18 ran
Dist: One length, 4l, 8l

SP: 33/1(50s), 8/1, 11/4(op 7/2,tchd 11/2)

No bid

owner: M Ramsden
----------------

Vulwell ran just once more ...

on March 2nd - at Doncaster - in a Selling Handicap Hurdle.
Carrying a 7lb penalty, and again ridden by 5lb claimer G Graham.
Started at 11/1(opened 8s)
  (hit 6th, soon ridden, tailed off when pulled up)

Looks as if it may, possibly, have sustained a 'career' ending injury.
By:
sparrow
When: 12 Nov 11 10:08
Thank you very much for that, onlooker.
I was told by a friend that they was going to land a touch with this horse. As time went by nothing was heard from the supposed source and the horse had barely a few races. Some 2 years later I noticed in the Sporting Life that he was running that day and had shown improvement on his previous run, which I had missed. When I spoke to my friend he said he had lost contact with his source and was not bothered about backing it. I just thought it must be worth a few quid each way. My friend has not got over the shock to this day.
By:
timeless
When: 12 Nov 11 12:06
thanks all, I didn't know he'd passed on,

rip.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 19 Oct 24 21:41
RIP Steve
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