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With their ability they should be able to land the big pots where us mug punters almost always find them too hard.
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I don't know any pro's who don't do ppots
!!The easiest way for punters to win is if they study aw meetings as you can put a line through 60% of the runners most meetings,fortunately most punters don't seem to realize this.
!!The easiest way for punters to win is if they study aw meetings as you can put a line through 60% of the runners most meetings,fortunately most punters don't seem to realize this.
IMO a thread subject designed specifically to get a rise out of thegiggilo 
All contrived these posts,as much of the carp on here is.
Something not contrived mustn't be far away?
Best of luck if it has not already happened giggs
Best of luck if it has not already happened giggs
Goes into hospital for inducement monday if nothing happens over the next two days.Cheers drew,i'm pretty hands on as far as helping out but will still try and get some work done,up till 3am everynight so won't be so bad helping out.
no. of course not . ludicrous . It would mean a professional playing in races he has no professional interest in . It would be very rare indeed if a professional was in any way interested in all 6 races on any card. Wouldnt be the slightest bit interested in a roll over either . why ? for the same reason he wouldnt be interested in the national lottery constantly rolling over . Placepots have by their very nature , too many variables in for any pro . They are pros for many reasons ...extreme discipline , thorough research , careful selection of individual events and a proper staking policy . As well as other factors of course . A question for all who doubt what i have said .......how in Gods name can you research all the races on a card for placepots ?
Here's one ^^^^i am a pro punter and you're second to last sentence answers your last,most pros will have studied every runner in every race and have a shortlist in every race.The bet is a massive advantage over your daily punter,in every way!!
ok you are a pro punter . I was a bookmaker with 4 shops in the north west and knew many pros. I never knew one who wished to do the placepot buut clearly there is at least one . By definition , the more events you play in , the more variables there are and the less chance you have of controlling those variables. That , gigilo , is basic mathematics. of course as a pro you will know that accountancy and mathematics , and the maths of probability [ if you did A level maths you will know all about that ] are essential weapons in a pro's armoury .
I couldn't even get the bets on when they weren't going in the pool because of constantly winning on them,banned for 50 mile radius.All hills shops banned in midlands and shown my profile,the only slight negative about the bet is the take out if your forms 10x better than an average punter everythings in your favour.There's nothing complicated about it,your form against an average punter over six races they can't possibly win,for the average punter it's a waste of time with such little studying.
I know one who does....has done for over a decade...he only does jumps Sept to April.
Duncan when they weren't going into the pool,you could drive to surrounding hills shops within a certain area and all of them wouldv'e been phoned through by the time you reached the next shop.Thats how great the bet was,they just wouldn't take them,now they go in the pool i don't get so involved but anyone doing a full card and knowing horses on that card that are going to be overbet ,should be doing the bet.
Pros would be very interested BUT 27% takeout and virtually all bets go in pool is off putting.
thegiggilo
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I don't know any pro's who don't do ppotsCool!!The easiest way for punters to win is if they study aw meetings as you can put a line through 60% of the runners most meetings,fortunately most punters don't seem to realize this.Shocked
hegiggilo • October 29, 2011 2:22 AM BST
Duncan when they weren't going into the pool,you could drive to surrounding hills shops within a certain area and all of them wouldv'e been phoned through by the time you reached the next shop.Thats how great the bet was,they just wouldn't take them,now they go in the pool i don't get so involved but anyone doing a full card and knowing horses on that card that are going to be overbet ,should be doing the bet.Wink
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I don't know any pro's who don't do ppotsCool!!The easiest way for punters to win is if they study aw meetings as you can put a line through 60% of the runners most meetings,fortunately most punters don't seem to realize this.Shocked
hegiggilo • October 29, 2011 2:22 AM BST
Duncan when they weren't going into the pool,you could drive to surrounding hills shops within a certain area and all of them wouldv'e been phoned through by the time you reached the next shop.Thats how great the bet was,they just wouldn't take them,now they go in the pool i don't get so involved but anyone doing a full card and knowing horses on that card that are going to be overbet ,should be doing the bet.Wink
EH ?
pablo gonzales
29 Oct 11 01:20
no. of course not . ludicrous . It would mean a professional playing in races he has no professional interest in . It would be very rare indeed if a professional was in any way interested in all 6 races on any card. Wouldnt be the slightest bit interested in a roll over either . why ? for the same reason he wouldnt be interested in the national lottery constantly rolling over . Placepots have by their very nature , too many variables in for any pro . They are pros for many reasons ...extreme discipline , thorough research , careful selection of individual events and a proper staking policy . As well as other factors of course . A question for all who doubt what i have said .......how in Gods name can you research all the races on a card for placepots
You want to become an independant i'll be your best/worst customer.
29 Oct 11 01:20
no. of course not . ludicrous . It would mean a professional playing in races he has no professional interest in . It would be very rare indeed if a professional was in any way interested in all 6 races on any card. Wouldnt be the slightest bit interested in a roll over either . why ? for the same reason he wouldnt be interested in the national lottery constantly rolling over . Placepots have by their very nature , too many variables in for any pro . They are pros for many reasons ...extreme discipline , thorough research , careful selection of individual events and a proper staking policy . As well as other factors of course . A question for all who doubt what i have said .......how in Gods name can you research all the races on a card for placepots
You want to become an independant i'll be your best/worst customer.
I am not a pro but I am a modest winner and placepots can, relatively often, offer very good value. I do win on them.
pablo I think one of the misconceptions in punting is that increasing the variables decreases the angle a professional can take on a given bet/race. I totally agree that what is effectively a 6-race accumulator introduces variables that make it hard to be sure of yourself, but as you said, basic mathematics skills are required to assess value and many punters that play the placepot do not take these into account.
As one loose example of what I am trying to say, I placed a 16 line perm at a summer jumps meeting two years back (including all 4 that ran in the 4-runner novice chase). The outsider (16-1) won that race and that knocked virtually all of the (presumably) recreational money out. I won the bet to a 2 pound stake and the dividend was nearly 700 pounds. All because of one surprising result, where it really didn't cost me much as a player to perm all four horses.
There are loads of other examples that illustrate the point but I'll not bore everyone by elaborating. Suffice to say that a mathematical approach to placepot betting can, in the right circumstances, make it a very good value bet.
pablo I think one of the misconceptions in punting is that increasing the variables decreases the angle a professional can take on a given bet/race. I totally agree that what is effectively a 6-race accumulator introduces variables that make it hard to be sure of yourself, but as you said, basic mathematics skills are required to assess value and many punters that play the placepot do not take these into account.
As one loose example of what I am trying to say, I placed a 16 line perm at a summer jumps meeting two years back (including all 4 that ran in the 4-runner novice chase). The outsider (16-1) won that race and that knocked virtually all of the (presumably) recreational money out. I won the bet to a 2 pound stake and the dividend was nearly 700 pounds. All because of one surprising result, where it really didn't cost me much as a player to perm all four horses.
There are loads of other examples that illustrate the point but I'll not bore everyone by elaborating. Suffice to say that a mathematical approach to placepot betting can, in the right circumstances, make it a very good value bet.
Thats a poor example as you couldv'e done hundreds of small perms alike and you said that was the only result pure chance,you may as well do straight line of favs as doing a bet like that especially on aw meetings.
To win on the bet is all form related,turf meetings are more complex as you're factoring in everything so usually ending up with larger perms.If you're doing the aw its all time based if doing it as it should be done,very few punters will be doing this for one race never mind six.It's easier to cut perms down on a high % of aw meetings,but on the flip side punters won't invest heavily when crds are impossible.There are huge edges to all meetings and surfaces,that very few take advantage of thus the bet banned from shops and having to go in the pool.I could go on but would take another thousand words.
To win on the bet is all form related,turf meetings are more complex as you're factoring in everything so usually ending up with larger perms.If you're doing the aw its all time based if doing it as it should be done,very few punters will be doing this for one race never mind six.It's easier to cut perms down on a high % of aw meetings,but on the flip side punters won't invest heavily when crds are impossible.There are huge edges to all meetings and surfaces,that very few take advantage of thus the bet banned from shops and having to go in the pool.I could go on but would take another thousand words.
Thats a poor example as you couldv'e done hundreds of small perms alike and you said that was the only result pure chance,you may as well do straight line of favs as doing a bet like that especially on aw meetings.
To win on the bet is all form related,turf meetings are more complex as you're factoring in everything so usually ending up with larger perms.If you're doing the aw its all time based if doing it as it should be done,very few punters will be doing this for one race never mind six.It's easier to cut perms down on a high % of aw meetings,but on the flip side punters won't invest heavily when crds are impossible.There are huge edges to all meetings and surfaces,that very few take advantage of thus the bet banned from shops and having to go in the pool.I could go on but would take another thousand words.
To win on the bet is all form related,turf meetings are more complex as you're factoring in everything so usually ending up with larger perms.If you're doing the aw its all time based if doing it as it should be done,very few punters will be doing this for one race never mind six.It's easier to cut perms down on a high % of aw meetings,but on the flip side punters won't invest heavily when crds are impossible.There are huge edges to all meetings and surfaces,that very few take advantage of thus the bet banned from shops and having to go in the pool.I could go on but would take another thousand words.
Before To*e Direct in the offices, freak Placepot dividends would now & again occur.(12 years ago or more?), but hardly ever now.
It was good fun in the 80s & early 90s to have big perms in the shops knowing they were not in the tote pool.
It was good fun in the 80s & early 90s to have big perms in the shops knowing they were not in the tote pool.
My perms were refused before the toat was even introduced,after having several big wins over a months period the hills shops around my area put the stakes up to 10pences when no other shops anywhere were doing so.You mention 12 years ago which is about right,hills did exactly the same with handicap chases on 6 horse tricast races at around the exact same time another bet that was knocked back and probably the best value bet around apart from the ppots.
i knew a lad who 15-20 yr ago made his fortune from placepots in the shops not in the pool,he targeted small field meetings,jumps on bad ground,and he would have a 5k placepot single line(1 line to 5k,).i know he won 350k and 287k just from a big stake single line ,where the number of runners never got above 8 per race,
If that were true he was either very lucky,stupid or both.
Really, comingupthehill !
£5,000 single line stake on a placepot, or have I misunderstood?
Could you name the obliging (skint) layer please?
£5,000 single line stake on a placepot, or have I misunderstood?
Could you name the obliging (skint) layer please?
he was a semi pro footballer,and he moved from a terraced house to a detched mansion in alderlay edge within 3 months,we are talking in the silver bucks wayward lad days,where you would have 3 races with bankers in for placepots and only 3 to find.so a 5k ,10k line if not affecting the pool is a good bet.
It would be impossible to get that bet on as it wouldv'e been phoned through just on a £50 straight,thats a lot of petrol.
laddies at first,then they stopped him - he was the reason they went into the pools,he struggled in the end to get any sort of bet on,he went to the track ,stephen little would lay him,once they went into the pool then the bet becomes pointless.
Well as being as he was a football player ''at the end of the day''it was a mugs bet and he got lucky IF he got that amount on.
think about it if a punter wants a 5k placepot ,any bookie would risk it,you instantly think ,single line,6 races ,and remember - you ve got eveidence that most fail ,i.e all the punters each day not getting it up.
the fact they did the bet out of pool tells you they think that your not going to get it up- so they did lay it,but not for long.
the fact they did the bet out of pool tells you they think that your not going to get it up- so they did lay it,but not for long.
Yet had 5k straight lines on,whats he doing now 20 team accas on football....
Yet had 5k straight lines on,whats he doing now 20 team accas on football....
once they went pool inclusive - the bet became redundant,so no,
What i'm saying is he wouldv'e moved onto other crazy bets as all gamblers do!!!
to say your on a betting web site you ve got a low opinionin of so called gamblers.
It's my recreation after doing the cards all day,you would rarely see me on here before midnight.
Cheers 50% chance of being born within 48 hours,otherwise induced.
Try showing her one of Lazarus2 posts,the laughter might induce her.
Btw going back to the original placepot topic.In about 92 or 93 I did the PP at Newbury at a Billies shop.A friend who worked there copied mine and placed it with an Indy.
It copped for over £19k,the largest ever at the time,I collected without a problem but when my mate went to collect he was stunned.They had a limit on payouts for the PP and for his 25p perm he collected just over £400.
A lesson learned for the future for him regarding checking rules and betting with small indies not placing into the pool.
Btw going back to the original placepot topic.In about 92 or 93 I did the PP at Newbury at a Billies shop.A friend who worked there copied mine and placed it with an Indy.
It copped for over £19k,the largest ever at the time,I collected without a problem but when my mate went to collect he was stunned.They had a limit on payouts for the PP and for his 25p perm he collected just over £400.
A lesson learned for the future for him regarding checking rules and betting with small indies not placing into the pool.
good luck giggs .............and i wont come out of retirement to take your placepots . you have given a fairly persuasive argument that it certainly can be lucrative to the professional
I almost lost a friendship with a manageress over the bet a couple of years back,they were taking place 6s she did me a favour for a few months by taking them and i never really had a touch till a freak dividend came up and i took them for 25k.Think the place 6 paid 6x the ppot and they didn't go in the pool as i was having £400 on a slip to any stake from pennies upwards,taken her two years to forgive me.
At the time i was doing them as i could see freak divis were coming up but they were so random it was impossible to predict why.
At the time i was doing them as i could see freak divis were coming up but they were so random it was impossible to predict why.
yes and therein lies the secret to it. you dont need many hits . not like betting odds on . one careful study in a massive roll over and being a pro , you would see things that other average or " mug" punters couldnt se in a month of sundays , that would give you an edge . Of course the problem that the book has is that it cant get out of it ...not like a running canadian for example . the book is stuck with it !!!
Like you said, 22 years ago, you could have 1984@2p no problem. Then Hills cut everything. They increased the minimum stake unit and cut the maximum perm. Ended up in Sheffield you could have maximum of 4 lines per slip to 25p minimum units
I still have 20,000 lines on now,not as often as i used to and that all goes in the pool.
Giggsy-good luck with the imminent arrival and i hope he/she p1ssses you off by being a Toffee/Manure fan but give it up with the placepot bollix -you know that i know (heres aclue-Fakenham will be ya starter)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlsBObg-1BQ&feature=related
Anytime you want to lay some give me a shout without the takeout!!!All this you know i know carp,i never understand anthing you're on about EVER and that goes for most.You come up with these make stories and claim them as fact when they're just made up utter nonsense,thats why its not even worth replying.One day you might snap out of it but i doubt it.
Anytime you want to lay some give me a shout without the takeout!!!All this you know i know carp,i never understand anthing you're on about EVER and that goes for most.You come up with these make stories and claim them as fact when they're just made up utter nonsense,thats why its not even worth replying.One day you might snap out of it but i doubt it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=eAOdlgFJDAI
ok i will refresh the grey matter -can you remember getting a big placepot up at Fakenham a while back -bearing in mind you dont normally do placepots over the jumps -unless of course they pay big -and for the record for any follower of this goon whilst he was a member of a forum i was involved with away from here he was not able once to come up with one of these gargantuan placepot returns that he claims on a regular basis before the event -true or not giggsy-heres another clue re Fakenham placepot -i was on Holiday at the time in Egypt -hope this helps
-heres another clue re Fakenham placepot -i was on Holiday at the time in Egypt -hope this helps
Giggsy giggsy come out where ever you are.
I rem the Fakenham story . . . . .
I rem the Fakenham story . . . . .
think giggs is honest....he used to post his pots on here
Anything ever come of this then ?
I am a fan of gigs but why such vitriol towards him ?
I am a fan of gigs but why such vitriol towards him ?
I read a book once about pro punters,and I hope you don`t take this personly but with that mindset you will never make as a punter or otherwise,here is one chapter from that book,
what makes a pro punter differ from a average joe punter is this,1st the pro will be selective and I mean selective,2nd the pro punter will take winning and losing with the same grace,the average joe will get to caught up with the whole oh I have £100 on this fav and if it dos`nt win then i have to go and tell the wife I lost the shopping money,this leads to pressure,3rd the pro as soon as the gates only knows in his heart of hearts that he has chossen the horse on a system he trusts and he can do nothing about it now,the average joe is holding on tight to his docket willing the horse to win,putting pressure on himself,if it gets beat average joe will BLAME himself and go looking though the race to find a reason why he should`nt have backed the horse,while the pro will just say that was as strange race leave it there and move on,finaly and probally the best line from the book is this,the average joe will blame himself for lossing money,and human nature says I WANT MY MONEY BACK A,S,A,P,then all hell breaks loose and he will go chasing his losses which leads to cloudly judgement and stupid bets,while the pro will lay in wait for his next pray and then pounce on it and get all his money back and more, HERE LAYS THE GOLDEN TICKET,
what makes a pro punter differ from a average joe punter is this,1st the pro will be selective and I mean selective,2nd the pro punter will take winning and losing with the same grace,the average joe will get to caught up with the whole oh I have £100 on this fav and if it dos`nt win then i have to go and tell the wife I lost the shopping money,this leads to pressure,3rd the pro as soon as the gates only knows in his heart of hearts that he has chossen the horse on a system he trusts and he can do nothing about it now,the average joe is holding on tight to his docket willing the horse to win,putting pressure on himself,if it gets beat average joe will BLAME himself and go looking though the race to find a reason why he should`nt have backed the horse,while the pro will just say that was as strange race leave it there and move on,finaly and probally the best line from the book is this,the average joe will blame himself for lossing money,and human nature says I WANT MY MONEY BACK A,S,A,P,then all hell breaks loose and he will go chasing his losses which leads to cloudly judgement and stupid bets,while the pro will lay in wait for his next pray and then pounce on it and get all his money back and more, HERE LAYS THE GOLDEN TICKET,
Yes, but generally they have a cashback deal.
willie..Will ashley finally sell newcastle..IIhave my doubts.
wiiiefcuk - not while theres 52k pies to sell every week at £4 odd a pop .....kerching
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQMqWAiWPMs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQMqWAiWPMs
......and funnily enough the one day giggsy sent me a text wiv a perm for wherever i was in willies neighbourhood at time i knew it was all billy bullshine cos ive been a coinnoseur of the bet since its inception.......as was joe the postie Stevie
Great lad and i hope he is still at it
Great lad and i hope he is still at it
terrific lad , one of the good guys
as for ashley , feel for toon fans puttin up with him just sees clubs for what he can make out of them
as for ashley , feel for toon fans puttin up with him just sees clubs for what he can make out of them
what do ya do though re the club hello that you hav followed since 70s - when i first went the club had wooden stands and its club shop was nothing more than a portakabin and even then it was politically motivated cos it was always a cash cow over anything else
check this kids album out by the way .......ooooooosssssss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDvX1hzGZN4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X7boEZOzG0
second one care of cold feet tonight
check this kids album out by the way .......ooooooosssssss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDvX1hzGZN4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X7boEZOzG0
second one care of cold feet tonight
ps my pop at giggsy was of the time cos he didnt get that Fakenham placepot up on this thread .....fact
with so many of so called big clubs struggling now may be time for fresh investment at toon it wont come form ashley , sucsess doesnt interest him only sales ,including pies as you say
massive massive club , underachieving for a long time
massive massive club , underachieving for a long time
that dirty ba was giving gers 7p in the pound for merch , bear in mind was a club getting up of its knees
his day will come
his day will come
bought debenhams as well but majority telt him te feck off - much the same as Rangers - his ads are totally misleading - 70% off etc yet you can still buy cheaper elsewhere most of time
giggilo was posting on the politics forum recently, I think.
Pro punters do do the placepot and other pool accumulators; there is a mathematical bias to be exploited.
Works like this:
In a field of (say) ten runners, where the fav is 2/1 and the others are 10/1, there would likely be an even distribution over the rest of the field while the fav would attract a disproportionately high % of the stakes; it being overwhelmingly the second choice in combinations. If the fav is unplaced, it turns a mathematical disadvantage into an advantage, and when it happens 3 or 4 times on a card very good dividends can occur.
That seems to be part of the theory anyway - I have to say I'm unsuited to that way of betting, and never made a penny that way.
Pro punters do do the placepot and other pool accumulators; there is a mathematical bias to be exploited.
Works like this:
In a field of (say) ten runners, where the fav is 2/1 and the others are 10/1, there would likely be an even distribution over the rest of the field while the fav would attract a disproportionately high % of the stakes; it being overwhelmingly the second choice in combinations. If the fav is unplaced, it turns a mathematical disadvantage into an advantage, and when it happens 3 or 4 times on a card very good dividends can occur.
That seems to be part of the theory anyway - I have to say I'm unsuited to that way of betting, and never made a penny that way.
Giggilo still posts occasionally elsewhere, think poor health has stopped him posting regularly but is probably still the best analyst on the internet, yes we all know of his legendary post race stuff but its hard to argue with his pre race analysis a lot of the time.
Some recent efforts on same card.
22nd January 2020
Dancing rave 9/2 victor 4/1 hills
It looks as though dancing rave may need a mile,was pulled in by stewards last time out,not quite sure why as was just slightly outpaced finished behind javelin and tomorrows favourite was probably a little better than that run,has first time pieces just hope they go quick enough as is best run was penultimate run when fourth in a better handicap at newcastle..Shamameya the favourite was second in the wolves race never got a clear run and comeback run after long lay off,the obvious pick and favourite,bint dandy veteran now is not a total lost cause a fourth over c/d off 69 in october and a third off 64 in decmber again over c/d and in this grade..A mark of 63 tomorrow,couldn't totally discount at 25/1.
Dancing Rave won 7/2, Bint Dandy 2nd 10/1
Paddleyourowncanoe 11/4 victor/hills/ppower/sportsbook 3/1 generally 7/2 betfred
Paddleyourowncanoe rated 140 over the sticks returns to the flat first run since 2017 852 days,didn't show a lot on the aw then was running off 59 and beaten,disappointing if can't run well in a poor race for horses rated upto 60 again three seasons on,top two in handicap amanto and nafaayes look decent ew alternatives.
Paddleyourowncanoe W 11/4
3.55
Something lucky 11/2 victor Green door 8/1 victor
Rarely win something lucky and green door anymore,green doors only won one race in last three seasons a seller in december,it looks like he's on downgrade but was only august when third to zac brown,recent form nowhere near as good third to chitra in this grade with something lucky a head infront..Both usually in the first four here,as long as decent pace to aim at obvious place chnces in this grade,cappananty con has same formline through chitra might try some speculatuve forecasts..
Green Door W 4/1, Something Lucky 2nd 7/2
3 winners and 2 2nds in 3 races,also 2 big F/Cs, others he put up for same meeting 2 came 3rd and the other 4th.
All this race analysis is put up the afternoon before, when prices 1st come out, which if you are lucky enough to be able to get on is fine but usually ruins the prices for the rest of us, but don't think anyone can deny his ability to get to the gist of a race though.
Some recent efforts on same card.
22nd January 2020
Dancing rave 9/2 victor 4/1 hills
It looks as though dancing rave may need a mile,was pulled in by stewards last time out,not quite sure why as was just slightly outpaced finished behind javelin and tomorrows favourite was probably a little better than that run,has first time pieces just hope they go quick enough as is best run was penultimate run when fourth in a better handicap at newcastle..Shamameya the favourite was second in the wolves race never got a clear run and comeback run after long lay off,the obvious pick and favourite,bint dandy veteran now is not a total lost cause a fourth over c/d off 69 in october and a third off 64 in decmber again over c/d and in this grade..A mark of 63 tomorrow,couldn't totally discount at 25/1.
Dancing Rave won 7/2, Bint Dandy 2nd 10/1
Paddleyourowncanoe 11/4 victor/hills/ppower/sportsbook 3/1 generally 7/2 betfred
Paddleyourowncanoe rated 140 over the sticks returns to the flat first run since 2017 852 days,didn't show a lot on the aw then was running off 59 and beaten,disappointing if can't run well in a poor race for horses rated upto 60 again three seasons on,top two in handicap amanto and nafaayes look decent ew alternatives.
Paddleyourowncanoe W 11/4
3.55
Something lucky 11/2 victor Green door 8/1 victor
Rarely win something lucky and green door anymore,green doors only won one race in last three seasons a seller in december,it looks like he's on downgrade but was only august when third to zac brown,recent form nowhere near as good third to chitra in this grade with something lucky a head infront..Both usually in the first four here,as long as decent pace to aim at obvious place chnces in this grade,cappananty con has same formline through chitra might try some speculatuve forecasts..
Green Door W 4/1, Something Lucky 2nd 7/2
3 winners and 2 2nds in 3 races,also 2 big F/Cs, others he put up for same meeting 2 came 3rd and the other 4th.
All this race analysis is put up the afternoon before, when prices 1st come out, which if you are lucky enough to be able to get on is fine but usually ruins the prices for the rest of us, but don't think anyone can deny his ability to get to the gist of a race though.
I just lobbed £162 into the kitty @ Newcastle,that's my average stake for a placepot.
I can confirm much that that is posted on here. The placepot was a very popular "pro" bet which I made a living from between 1989 - 1993. There was a very successful group of us doing this near Epsom.
One reason was you could bet outside the pool but the really big one was you could make the 8 boxes per line into smaller boxes (4 or 8 per box) and have 30 selections in a race. That sounds mad but you would put fav in 10 times, second fav 4 times and cover the rest of the field. It was a little more complicated than that but you get the idea.
The other thing was you could do 1p or sometime lower stakes allowing you to put in 1000's of selections. At the festival we would be able to lay out £500 to £800 on 1000's of selections knowing what ever the result you would get the pot in for 50p of the dividend. If fav's came in it maybe £2 or more...you just wanted the outsiders to come in. We won thousands some days but only lost a few hundreds if the results made the placepot £300 or less.
I was told the bookies lost fortunes on the placepot in those days - that is why it all went into the pool eventually.
One reason was you could bet outside the pool but the really big one was you could make the 8 boxes per line into smaller boxes (4 or 8 per box) and have 30 selections in a race. That sounds mad but you would put fav in 10 times, second fav 4 times and cover the rest of the field. It was a little more complicated than that but you get the idea.
The other thing was you could do 1p or sometime lower stakes allowing you to put in 1000's of selections. At the festival we would be able to lay out £500 to £800 on 1000's of selections knowing what ever the result you would get the pot in for 50p of the dividend. If fav's came in it maybe £2 or more...you just wanted the outsiders to come in. We won thousands some days but only lost a few hundreds if the results made the placepot £300 or less.
I was told the bookies lost fortunes on the placepot in those days - that is why it all went into the pool eventually.
I can remember doing a placepot at Market Rasen one Easter bank holiday, I had it up for £32 quid and thought I'd get a nice return, circa 1981 ish, it paid £1.50 !
Stewarts imo after some 58 years punting the Giggilo is the best I have ever read and followed, he is superb at what he does. at what he does.
I also had my most embarrassing gambling story around that time. There was a 19 runner race around a gaff track with an even money Pipe horse (which was a dog) so we put the entire field into the race. Trying to save a few pounds I removed the fav as I didn't fancy it all and also the two 100/1 shots. Of course I went out as the fav won by a furlong followed by the two rags. 16 selections out of 19 and went out a placepot.
Can you beat that !
Can you beat that !
i would agree with above , gig best ive seen on here regarding form and times , and real shame eejits wrecked the placepot thread it was definately one of best threads ever and if you were new like i was at time you learned an awful lot
put in a lot of work tbf but it paid off well for him i know that for a fact , very decent guy aswell
put in a lot of work tbf but it paid off well for him i know that for a fact , very decent guy aswell
I have got three lines in the last for £9.60 each. 1,4,9.
gl slippy...n over j 5/4fav to place at newcastle a while back finished 4th and cost me 4k...didn't lay off .
Thanks sofiakenny, if I only get 1 place then I'll win. I quite fancy Pinch Of Ginger to run a solid race again but haven't punted it for the win. Good luck if you are having a punt in this race.
do i fook do a place pot. mug bet....fook that
I think some bookmakers didn't put the slips into the pool,indi bookies ?
I do the placepots everyday, not a pro but do take it seriously since I retired.
28 Jan 2020 11:26:26 Southwell Placepot 15716131
Leg 1: 1,2,14
Leg 2: 3
Leg 3: 3,4
Leg 4: 1,6
Leg 5: 1,2,3,4
Leg 6: 1,6,8
144 0.20 28.80 Bet placed
28 Jan 2020 11:24:34 Newcastle Placepot 15716126
Leg 1: F,2
Leg 2: 1
Leg 3: 4
Leg 4: 1,7
Leg 5: 2,4
Leg 6: 4,8
16 0.50 8.00 Bet settled 237.40
28 Jan 2020 11:26:26 Southwell Placepot 15716131
Leg 1: 1,2,14
Leg 2: 3
Leg 3: 3,4
Leg 4: 1,6
Leg 5: 1,2,3,4
Leg 6: 1,6,8
144 0.20 28.80 Bet placed
28 Jan 2020 11:24:34 Newcastle Placepot 15716126
Leg 1: F,2
Leg 2: 1
Leg 3: 4
Leg 4: 1,7
Leg 5: 2,4
Leg 6: 4,8
16 0.50 8.00 Bet settled 237.40
Giggilo is still sulking because we are leaving the EU.He is also obsessed with slagging Tommy Robinson.He might well be good at placepots but the fella is an out and out to$$er.
If only everyday went as well
28 Jan 2020 11:26:26 Southwell Placepot 15716131
Leg 1: 1,2,14
Leg 2: 3
Leg 3: 3,4
Leg 4: 1,6
Leg 5: 1,2,3,4
Leg 6: 1,6,8
144 0.20 28.80 Bet settled 77.76
28 Jan 2020 11:26:26 Southwell Placepot 15716131
Leg 1: 1,2,14
Leg 2: 3
Leg 3: 3,4
Leg 4: 1,6
Leg 5: 1,2,3,4
Leg 6: 1,6,8
144 0.20 28.80 Bet settled 77.76
About twenty years ago a retired couple used to go round the Scottish and North of England courses in a camper van with a Sky ariel on it. They basically only did the placepot with considerable success. I was quite friendly with them and they gave me quite a few racing books and a copy of the Raceform disc to evaluate. Sometimes son or son in law was with them but suddenly they stopped coming. I had their address and phone number but did not like to phone as I assumed that one had possibly died.
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