WHATS THE POINT IN BETDACK STILL EXISTING????

All the MUGS gone skint

RDT 'customers' on-course would be lost without it !!

I wonder if any company has ever been given a bigger chance to take customers away from it's major rival, than Betfair has given to Betquack. Surely the PC hike and all the other negative effects that flow from it, was the chance Betquack had been waiting for, yet they seem unable or unwilling to take that chance by the balls.

Makes you wonder which company has got the more inept management. Betfair for shooting itself so firmly in both feet over PC AND major site unreliability - or Betquack for not having the brains or business accumen to jump on the opportunity. Maybe running a betting exchange does not require management with any brains.

Dack traders just arb between there and here. Riskfree profit

2.5% COMMISSION AND £200 IN FREE BETS IF YOU SIGN UP BETWEEN 1/10 AND 31/12

WORTH SIGNING UP AND DOING SOME BUSINESS IMO

Do IBEX still exist ?

Yes, salmon - that was the l ink that I posted -

but it asterisked out.

Looked tonight - and looking at some of the amounts up there on the horses, at varying levels of prices, surprised me.

Go direct to b*t tor.com

The only explanation anyone can give is its all so badly run that it must be a tax write off by Mr Desmond!!! Well if it is they are doing a great job theyve been handed it all on a plate through what betfair have got up to in the last few years and theyve made a complete mess of competing

Betfair is very good at responding to my numerous emails about the failings of the videos. I know the problem with videos is not always that of BF as the bookies who use the same feed have had identical issues.
Unfortunately I do not have to combat the PC so I have nothing to say about that.
I have pulled money out of the purple site with no problem whatsoever.
I might use it more but the number of markets in football is very limited and this is where I might use them.

ok please someone point me to the error of my ways here -why doesnt one of the big 3-4 bookmaking firms set up their own betting exchange run along similar lines to betfair therefore negating the need for silly online betting sites that just continuously refer you every time you want a decent chunk on -they have far better advertising policies for the fbots/casino/games markets already in place which they could quite easily capitalise on and are only interested in taking a punter on if hes a born loser/he can mark their card/ or they can arb him till their hearts content -how many premium charge accs do you think are owned by the big boys-a high percentage i would venture and thats what the premium charge is all about imho

yes salmon but they could still run their other operations alongside a betting exchange and im sure from a company point of view even now most every day punters would know of the name Ladbrokes over Betfair -after all they are on almost every high street/main road so they are deffo more high profile -with any sort of business nous they could/would quickly blow this lot away with a bit of aggression i reckon -bf is in a mess with very little respect for its client base and anyone that bought their shares when they came out should have made a killing by selling them straight away

Its 2 ticks worse both sides on purple so its immaterial whether backing or laying or commission levels - maybe odds on excepted. I never get lower than 4% here - currently 4.7 and am 2.5 on purple but can't bet there - how can they be so dumb to not see I'd be the obvious person to move if they were competitive.

guess its because no one bets there so staff have plenty of time to answer e-mails

Any offer that's available on betfair can be matched on betd@q if you're willing to take an increment lower (backing) or higher (laying). As your offer is matched on betd@q the offer will disappear on betfair. I suspect it may be people on here churning between sites to avoid pc (they may have a private deal with betd@q) or it may be betd@q themselves. Either way, you've got to put the bet up to get matched and if you do it through their API (trading software is available) you'll eventually end up on 1%. You'll have to work out for yourself if 1% commission and an increment out beats x% commission with up to 60% pc.  I suspect it would in most cases but it certainly does in mine and I'm betting (backing) up to several grand per race. I won't be using betfair again until I'm automated and even then I'll be offering liquidity on betd@q. If more of you people who hanker after "a viable alternative" would follow suit there might just be "a viable alternative". This post will probably get me banned so cut and paste and stick it elsewhere.

'Surely Dermot Desmond is better than this or is he content to have the whool pulled over his eyes by his staff? '

Mr Desmond took his ball home soon enough where The Sportsman was concerned, so i doubt anyone's pulling the wool over his eyes.


the idea that Betdack dont want to take on Bfair and the idea that the big 4 bookies havent seriously looked into the possibility of an exchange are both a bit silly imo, but from an early stage Bfair has had an almost monopoly share of the market and liquidity and it would take a massive investment in terms of advertising/IT etc to try to overhaul them. The fact there would have to be a doubt re. to what extent 2 profitable exchanges could co-exist would also be offputting.

The end is not that far away,youngsters arnt interested in the main,the muggs are now in very short supply.Its  probably only the grey brigade keeping it all afloat

Doesn't surprise me barry. There's a lot more liquidity there than that which is visible.

Any offer that's available on betfair can be matched on betd@q if you're willing to take an increment lower (backing) or higher (laying). As your offer is matched on betd@q the offer will disappear on betfair.

Just in case I gave the wrong idea, you'll probably still get matched if you request the betfair odds but you won't get the same near instantaneous response.

You dont match eff all on betquack lets be serious. Its all fake money matched by their traders. The moment they match a grand they retreat a mile and meke it hard for you to match any more. To anyone with a brain its crystal clear what goes on. I think everyone is desperate for a some competition between exchanges but it seems the only people that arent are betquack themselves.

lol im not mate ive tried it for 3 months and its a joke

if its 5.2 on betfair and you ask for 5.1 youll match 1k then thats it. trust me feck no one needs betdack to work more than me but sadly it doesnt