sorry wolfhanger,ther should have been a comma after your nme,i was posting to you about the likely pursuits of the anti pair feck/gerry.

feck, as gerry seems so  coy all of a sudden,perhaps i could ask you a question.

Is it not true that you'd be happy to see the back of NH racing?

Indeed feck,you want to ban meat consumption,ban NH racing,ban the use of the whip.


Your views represent less than 1% of racing followers,and hopefully those who take part/run the sport shall allways bear that in mind when faced with yours and people like gerrys propoganda.

My main objection to the whip is it's an aid to cheating which is why the cheats want to hang on to it.

By racing set I'm talking about those who put on the sport. Punters don't decide to put NH racing on unsuitable ground.

Feck and Gerry I understand you both bet on NH racing. If you consider use of the whip to be so wrong are you not then BIG hyprocrites.

I'm a hypocrite because I think the whip's an aid to cheating?????

Why do you Gerry?

^ What a bizarre post.

Christ - and you say that my post was bizarre. Anyway, thank you for confirming that you lied about me wanting to ban NH racing and lied also when you stated that I had said I didn't bet on it. I take it your cheque for £1000 is now in the post to Greatwood zebadei.

I believe the RSPCA has said  it does not hurt and the world horse welfare body has said its not cruel.
Those boys would all like to ban racing too So that really should put the tree huggers minds at rest on that point
HTH

I think anybody reading this thread can see what ppking and others have stated in the past, especially under your other nomme de plume, that you are utterly barking mad.

pistols at dawn

As somebody who pretty much shares your view about the current issue zebadei I must say I am a bit uneasy with your bacon question. you must know that Jews and Muslims don`t eat bacon. As it happens neither do I though I don`t fall into either of those categories. I don`t eat meat at all but I don`t equate that with being a tree-hugger or wanting to ban racing. I just don`t like it.

You insulted me. Take it back.

it doesn't need to get out of hand, none of us are responsible for this mess

Both sides have people on it that have an entrenched view and can't see beyond it.

I love horse racing, particularly NH but can't help but feel it's a guilty pleasure when I see a horse running around with a floppy leg after a fall or every time that the green screens are erected around a stricken horse. "They have a pampered life in a world where the horse is pretty much obsolete" I tell colleagues who say its cruel but because I enjoy the sport so much doesn't mean I'm deaf to debates, criticism or questions that question real issues that are valid.
I have no sympathy with the jockeys, their arguments are not compelling and are really just admissions that they are going to continue to break the rules and don't want to be punished for doing so.
I think the key is does the whip hurt the horse?
Even on this topic there is conflicting support as there are posts that say it doesn't and then not too long after there are posts citing missus? If it doesn't hurt then what is the missus?

In a nut shell, if the whip doesn't hurt the horse then why limit it's use? Let the jockeys hit the horse as many times as they want.
If the whip does hurt the horse then we have a limit to the number of times that you can hurt the horse and if you ignore that and exceed this limit prepare to be punished for it.

z
you still owe me an apology.

Lets face it having a set number is just silly

Not if it's zero. No need for any fines, bans, disqualifications etc.

yeah feck but as you want to ban NH racing,amogst other things,the number of times you suggest  a jockey can give a horse a reminder is somewhat meaningless .