Ruby Walsh has told paul nicholls

Geraghty seemed to be saying much the same about his arrangement with Henderson earlier. The law of unforeseen cosequences.

* consequences

who told you that?

This sounds rather silly and implausible to me .
Are two accomplished, highly experienced jockeys saying they could not adapt to a different regulatory regime in regard to race riding ...that would show them up as very limited and one dimensional indeed.
If the British based jockeys can change and get on with it -why can't anyone else ?

becuz their grouse is all about the different rules over here and in Ireland, surely you can appreciate that!

walshes think there bigger than the game itself....hope pumpkin calls his bluff.

Geraghty said that the rules are fine if you're riding one who travels, but if you're riding a lazy one who needs a few smacks to get going, by the time you're at the last, you've used your quota up.

He singled Brave Inca out as a good example of one who needed plenty of encouragement with the jockey's aid.

He also opined that Harchibald might have beaten Hardy Eustace in the Champion Hurdle under the new rules.

Vubiant have a look at Ruby Walshs complete record in the Aintree Grand National. Most certainly not limited and one dimensional. Walsh and Geraghty know that the regulatory regime is an ass.

Does Rooby get paid a retainer and, if he does, I wonder what the owners who pay it think of this?

just speculation then really

I`ve never seen anybody define Walsh`s agreement with Nicholls. I imagine it is not a straightforward retainer as he certainly rides Mullins horse if he thinks it has a better chance.

World class jocks, trainers, horses == not wedded to British racing. So if BHA sh*ts in its own pit, we will have to pay the price.

99% certain that he gets no retainer from either. I would imagine that PNs opinion of the new rules is the same as RWs

And I suppose the anti-whip brigade will argue does it matter that Harchibald might have beaten Hardy Eustace - every race will still have a winner, etc

Well yes, imo, because as others have argued, the competitiveness is being taken out of the sport.

Btw, Hardy Eustace received at least 14 encouragements from the jockey's aid after the penultimate hurdle in that great race.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3AHDcaVX_k

this might be a bad example but it's surely difficult to ride in tandem in both countries, a bit like playing rugby league and then rugby union?
both chase and kick 'eggs' but rules are different, apparently!

Its horses like Hardy Eustace that followers of the game love.

As well as a fine horseman, world-class jockey and excellent communicator, Ruby is also widely-recognised as a short-fused, petulant, tantrum-thrower.

Let's hope the latter weaknesses don't overcome the initial stengths

It might well be logical for him to ride primarily in Ireland,where he is not going to get regular bans. I would think a well-informed decision not a tantrum.

Holding races up at Aintree due to a personal reverse can never be well-informed, I'd have thought, SS.

Come on, Headmaster. 'widely-recognized as a short-fused, petulant, tentrum-thrower'?? What you mean is that he isnt a right thinking Englishman who belongs to the same club as you!
Absolutely rot, mate.

So the other jocks followed because of Ruby's personal interest, and not because of common principle? Come on!

I've given up on you, Yank.  Backwoodsman doesn't even begin to describe it.

I've only blocked one user before, so you're now in a very select club. (Just incase you start to wonder in future why I'm not taking the bait.....)

Byyeeeeeeeeeeeee

Headmaster blackballed me from his club.

Headmaster looking at your last thread do you not think it might be a bit ironic to have just called someone else "a short-fused, petulant tantrum-thrower"?

All rights to Headmaster to slag off any sportsman he chooses. No rights to anyone else to call him to account.

How is Ruby a tantrum thrower Headmaster. Always seemed very calm to me. Examples please?

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Headmaster looking at your last thread do you not think it might be a bit ironic to have just called someone else "a short-fused, petulant tantrum-thrower"?

I would if that's the first I'd heard of it, Arkle.  This goes way back though.


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george b, dont say things like that hardy mightnt have beaten harchibald, my biggest ever bet was on harchi that day

ruby walsh is a dedicated, pragmatic professional; he 'works' for money but loves race-riding; as a person he leaves absolutely nothing to be desired unless those who comment know him very personally and can enlighten us further.
AP is also a tremendous bloke, genuine as the day is light and, significantly, lists ruby as a very good friend.
they are passionate about jockeyship and are saddened by the 'unprofessional' deeds of this current BHA set-up. read newspapers but don't read into everything you read!

So many opinions, but this sums it up quite well for me.....


McCoy had earlier said he believed it was time to “stop talking and get on with riding” as the prospect of strike action appeared to be receding.

However, writing in the Daily Telegraph, McCoy said: “Many of my colleagues have been coming to me and complaining about the penalties and I agree with them.

“No offence to them but why should I be the one who sticks his head above the parapet? I don’t want to be portrayed as the troublemaker here and tarnish my own reputation.”

Jamie Spencer took a far better stand. Then again, those who love to slag jocks well say it was self serving because of the ride he gave Cape Blanco.
But he pointed out that French and Aussie jocks stuck together while English jocks took a kicking and rolled over. Rings true to me.

Is this McCoy the multi-millionaire who is going all out to ride 300 winners this season, and who will be riding a high percentages of favourites, many of whom will be steering jobs?

Hmmmm, I wonder why he doesn't want to go on strike...

Hmmmm, I wonder why he doesn't want to go on strike...




I'm just gussing, but perhaps it's something to do with all the juicy rides he'll get from Nicholls if Ruby packs it in over here...

*guessing

He's already gonna miss 9 days through the Wetherby debacle - the thought of a strike must absolutely kill him. I hope for her sake, he doesn't catch Chanelle having a quick drag on a ****.

*f a g

unfortunately subject has deteriorated; often happens when truth is submitted!

Ruby "Rules or Rules". "It's not right the rule is wrong".. "I'm not riding in tuesday, or friday and  now every ride i take i will have to work it out what is on ten days in advance(the time the ban starts)". "I dont think i will be able to ride in the UK midweek". "I think there will be strike"

It is the penalties the jockeys are objecting to more than the rule itself.

The BHA should forget the bans and fines and simply disqualify the horse.

Ironically, Paul Nicholls has complained in the past about Ruby riding at rubbish meetings in Ireland, though I think it was the risk of injury rather than bans that concerned him.

Note what Ruby is saying. Not that he won't ride in Britain at all but he will be reluctant to ride in low-paying races if he risks losing a big payday by picking up a ban. Not really a point of principle.

For those who think AP should fight for the jockeys, it is not his job. It is Kevin Darley's job. If AP started taking over others would question why when there is already a Chief Executive of the PJA.

He also said itv remains to be seen whats on 10 days from that date..I can't see him risking a ride on one of Walshes to miss 6 to 10 of Willies

Complete overreaction from Ruby IMO.It sounds like he plans to break the rules, can't count or thinks himself above the rules. He come across as vain and arrogant so maybe the later.

He is being perfectly practical and pragmatic. He is also being protective of his living. The BHA have kowtowed to the "anti whip" lobby. Now they can live with the consequences.

Increasingly, the best horses will run in the bigger races in Ireland and France.

The sponsors will soon get the message and move there as well. With Racing UK and ATR carrying meetings from those countries, the only thing that will be missing will be terrestrial coverage.

But then, Channel 4 will maybe get the message and start carrying meetings from Ireland and France on a Saturday afternoon.

Paul Roy doesn`t half have a lot of relatives.

There's been a family hoedown on here these last few weeks...

So Ruby doesn't want to come over?, well so the hell what??, its called horse racing afterall, jockeys are only bit players, there'll still be a winner in every race.

quay_street
Agreed - what you say makes sense. If the horses and jockeys are running in France or Ireland what difference does it make to punters who aren't at the meetings?
On course betting will go, rack track receipts will go. The sponsors will move the off shore meetings.
Animal Aid will achieve their goal of the demise of horse racing.

The BHA have taken a NON-ISSUE and made a laughing stock of UK racing. Racing has many more REAL issues it should be dealing with than this nonsense. How can anyone have any confidence in these incompetents promoting and securing a better future for racing when they are destroying it from within. If it wasn't so serious it would be laughable....what a shambles....

Whatever about Ruby Walsh riding in the UK under these arrangements I think it is a total no no for Barry Geraghty as he is fond of the stick and i dont think he will adapt. Believe though that those running the game in the UK are on a path of self destruction. These horses are treated better most humans in the world and are occasionally given a few slaps of the whip to encourage them to earn there keep . Big deal.

wel done BHA another f#ck up nicholls needs walshe more dan he needs him it the same with all irish jockies the ar way better than yer jockies if JOB got a ban and ballydoyle crew stepped in and same with frankie and goldolphin if they said they were pullin out of english racin this would b all over

wel done BHA another f#ck up nicholls needs walshe more dan he needs him it the same with all irish jockies the ar way better than yer jockies if JOB got a ban and ballydoyle crew stepped in and same with frankie and goldolphin if they said they were pullin out of english racin this would b all over

wel done BHA another f#ck up nicholls needs walshe more dan he needs him it the same with all irish jockies the ar way better than yer jockies if JOB got a ban and ballydoyle crew stepped in and same with frankie and goldolphin if they said they were pullin out of english racin this would b all over

wel done BHA another f#ck up nicholls needs walshe more dan he needs him it the same with all irish jockies the ar way better than yer jockies if JOB got a ban and ballydoyle crew stepped in and same with frankie and goldolphin if they said they were pullin out of english racin this would b all over

wake up mick your head is resting on the return button

the coffie is on

Be careful Mick you wont be able to sleep tonight.

racing no different  than  any  other sport,  the  top players have an  arrogance  in  their  make up  that  puts  them  above  rules , regulations , and  the  law .same as OUR  DEVOTED   M.P. s , what  a joke  lot .  Football still  leaders  ,thanks  to arrogance  on  and  off the  pitch  , top man  allowing firing of  rockets from  a  window ,  sets  the  place  on  fire  ,  just  beggars  belief ,  but  a  different  breed  of  people  .  Grand  NATIONAL  JOCK  no  d ifferent ,broke  rules  before   ,got  of  with it , so  onwards  and  upwards  it  goes  ,governing  body of  sports , need to  look  at  themselves  ,and  take  a stand  , SORT IT OUT  NOW  ...........