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bruce4syth
23 Oct 11 14:51
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he can't afford to honour the current arrangement they have; I'll bet willie mullins has had something to say and why not?

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By:
salmon spray
When: 23 Oct 11 14:54
Geraghty seemed to be saying much the same about his arrangement with Henderson earlier. The law of unforeseen cosequences.
By:
salmon spray
When: 23 Oct 11 14:55
* consequences
By:
GAMBLINGJOCKEY
When: 23 Oct 11 15:02
who told you that?
By:
Vubiant
When: 23 Oct 11 15:04
This sounds rather silly and implausible to me .
Are two accomplished, highly experienced jockeys saying they could not adapt to a different regulatory regime in regard to race riding ...that would show them up as very limited and one dimensional indeed.
If the British based jockeys can change and get on with it -why can't anyone else ?
By:
bruce4syth
When: 23 Oct 11 15:07
becuz their grouse is all about the different rules over here and in Ireland, surely you can appreciate that!
By:
maxheadroom
When: 23 Oct 11 15:08
walshes think there bigger than the game itself....hope pumpkin calls his bluff.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 23 Oct 11 15:08
Geraghty said that the rules are fine if you're riding one who travels, but if you're riding a lazy one who needs a few smacks to get going, by the time you're at the last, you've used your quota up.

He singled Brave Inca out as a good example of one who needed plenty of encouragement with the jockey's aid.

He also opined that Harchibald might have beaten Hardy Eustace in the Champion Hurdle under the new rules.
By:
Arklearkle
When: 23 Oct 11 15:09
Vubiant have a look at Ruby Walshs complete record in the Aintree Grand National. Most certainly not limited and one dimensional. Walsh and Geraghty know that the regulatory regime is an ass.
By:
Daryl Revok
When: 23 Oct 11 15:10
Does Rooby get paid a retainer and, if he does, I wonder what the owners who pay it think of this?
By:
GAMBLINGJOCKEY
When: 23 Oct 11 15:11
just speculation then really
By:
salmon spray
When: 23 Oct 11 15:14
I`ve never seen anybody define Walsh`s agreement with Nicholls. I imagine it is not a straightforward retainer as he certainly rides Mullins horse if he thinks it has a better chance.
By:
Yank
When: 23 Oct 11 15:16
World class jocks, trainers, horses == not wedded to British racing. So if BHA sh*ts in its own pit, we will have to pay the price.
By:
Arklearkle
When: 23 Oct 11 15:22
99% certain that he gets no retainer from either. I would imagine that PNs opinion of the new rules is the same as RWs
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 23 Oct 11 15:25
And I suppose the anti-whip brigade will argue does it matter that Harchibald might have beaten Hardy Eustace - every race will still have a winner, etc

Well yes, imo, because as others have argued, the competitiveness is being taken out of the sport.

Btw, Hardy Eustace received at least 14 encouragements from the jockey's aid after the penultimate hurdle in that great race.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3AHDcaVX_k
By:
bruce4syth
When: 23 Oct 11 15:26
this might be a bad example but it's surely difficult to ride in tandem in both countries, a bit like playing rugby league and then rugby union?
both chase and kick 'eggs' but rules are different, apparently!
By:
Steamship
When: 23 Oct 11 15:28
Its horses like Hardy Eustace that followers of the game love.
By:
The Headmaster
When: 23 Oct 11 15:35
As well as a fine horseman, world-class jockey and excellent communicator, Ruby is also widely-recognised as a short-fused, petulant, tantrum-thrower.

Let's hope the latter weaknesses don't overcome the initial stengths Sad
By:
salmon spray
When: 23 Oct 11 15:37
It might well be logical for him to ride primarily in Ireland,where he is not going to get regular bans. I would think a well-informed decision not a tantrum.
By:
The Headmaster
When: 23 Oct 11 15:40
Holding races up at Aintree due to a personal reverse can never be well-informed, I'd have thought, SS.
By:
Yank
When: 23 Oct 11 15:41
Come on, Headmaster. 'widely-recognized as a short-fused, petulant, tentrum-thrower'?? What you mean is that he isnt a right thinking Englishman who belongs to the same club as you!
Absolutely rot, mate.
By:
Yank
When: 23 Oct 11 15:43
So the other jocks followed because of Ruby's personal interest, and not because of common principle? Come on!
By:
The Headmaster
When: 23 Oct 11 15:46
I've given up on you, Yank.  Backwoodsman doesn't even begin to describe it.

I've only blocked one user before, so you're now in a very select club. (Just incase you start to wonder in future why I'm not taking the bait.....)

Byyeeeeeeeeeeeee Shocked
By:
Yank
When: 23 Oct 11 15:51
Headmaster blackballed me from his club.Shocked
By:
Arklearkle
When: 23 Oct 11 15:54
Headmaster looking at your last thread do you not think it might be a bit ironic to have just called someone else "a short-fused, petulant tantrum-thrower"?
By:
Yank
When: 23 Oct 11 15:55
All rights to Headmaster to slag off any sportsman he chooses. No rights to anyone else to call him to account.
By:
Masterminded
When: 23 Oct 11 15:56
How is Ruby a tantrum thrower Headmaster. Always seemed very calm to me. Examples please?
By:
The Headmaster
When: 23 Oct 11 15:58
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Headmaster looking at your last thread do you not think it might be a bit ironic to have just called someone else "a short-fused, petulant tantrum-thrower"?


I would if that's the first I'd heard of it, Arkle.  This goes way back though.


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By:
elisjohn
When: 23 Oct 11 16:00
george b, dont say things like that hardy mightnt have beaten harchibald, my biggest ever bet was on harchi that day
By:
bruce4syth
When: 23 Oct 11 16:01
ruby walsh is a dedicated, pragmatic professional; he 'works' for money but loves race-riding; as a person he leaves absolutely nothing to be desired unless those who comment know him very personally and can enlighten us further.
AP is also a tremendous bloke, genuine as the day is light and, significantly, lists ruby as a very good friend.
they are passionate about jockeyship and are saddened by the 'unprofessional' deeds of this current BHA set-up. read newspapers but don't read into everything you read!
By:
stewarty b
When: 23 Oct 11 16:02
So many opinions, but this sums it up quite well for me.....


McCoy had earlier said he believed it was time to “stop talking and get on with riding” as the prospect of strike action appeared to be receding.

However, writing in the Daily Telegraph, McCoy said: “Many of my colleagues have been coming to me and complaining about the penalties and I agree with them.

“No offence to them but why should I be the one who sticks his head above the parapet? I don’t want to be portrayed as the troublemaker here and tarnish my own reputation.”
By:
Yank
When: 23 Oct 11 16:05
Jamie Spencer took a far better stand. Then again, those who love to slag jocks well say it was self serving because of the ride he gave Cape Blanco.
But he pointed out that French and Aussie jocks stuck together while English jocks took a kicking and rolled over. Rings true to me.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 23 Oct 11 16:05
Is this McCoy the multi-millionaire who is going all out to ride 300 winners this season, and who will be riding a high percentages of favourites, many of whom will be steering jobs?

Hmmmm, I wonder why he doesn't want to go on strike...
By:
stewarty b
When: 23 Oct 11 16:11
Hmmmm, I wonder why he doesn't want to go on strike...




I'm just gussing, but perhaps it's something to do with all the juicy rides he'll get from Nicholls if Ruby packs it in over here...
By:
stewarty b
When: 23 Oct 11 16:11
*guessing
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 23 Oct 11 16:14
He's already gonna miss 9 days through the Wetherby debacle - the thought of a strike must absolutely kill him. I hope for her sake, he doesn't catch Chanelle having a quick drag on a ****. Mischief
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 23 Oct 11 16:15
*f a g
By:
bruce4syth
When: 23 Oct 11 16:35
unfortunately subject has deteriorated; often happens when truth is submitted!
By:
Anaglogs Daughter
When: 23 Oct 11 16:43
Ruby "Rules or Rules". "It's not right the rule is wrong".. "I'm not riding in tuesday, or friday and  now every ride i take i will have to work it out what is on ten days in advance(the time the ban starts)". "I dont think i will be able to ride in the UK midweek". "I think there will be strike"
By:
Ramruma
When: 23 Oct 11 16:55
It is the penalties the jockeys are objecting to more than the rule itself.

The BHA should forget the bans and fines and simply disqualify the horse.
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