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Since the whip changes, several races have alread been lost by horses where their jockeys evidently feared to use the whip. Others horses which needed encouragement during a long race, have simply been left to fade in the distance for the same reason rather than being put into the race and given at least a chance. If a jockey is having to think of how many strikes he has used, he cannot be fully concertrating his efforts on gaining the best possible place for his horse. For me many horses running to these rules have not run to their true ability and the spectacle of NH racing is already diminished.
The reason why I have always preferred jumps racing has been the sight of horses travelling over a distance and the skill and bravery of jockeys in judging pace, timing, presentation at fences,tactics and giving their all in a finish. I suspect there are many who share these feelings.
Perhaps I am wrong about all this - but if I am right, then in bringing in these changes, the BHA has emasculated the sport to such an extent that many of its true supporters will no longer support it. The Arab spring shows what happens when rulers no longer have the support of their people. If the regulator of a sport is so out of kilter with those who support it, it has lost its legitimacy and must go.
The reason why I have always preferred jumps racing has been the sight of horses travelling over a distance and the skill and bravery of jockeys in judging pace, timing, presentation at fences,tactics and giving their all in a finish. I suspect there are many who share these feelings.
Perhaps I am wrong about all this - but if I am right, then in bringing in these changes, the BHA has emasculated the sport to such an extent that many of its true supporters will no longer support it. The Arab spring shows what happens when rulers no longer have the support of their people. If the regulator of a sport is so out of kilter with those who support it, it has lost its legitimacy and must go.
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Superbly written and reasoned,one of the best threads written for many months.I am in full agreement with the content.
VWD lacson.
VWD lacson.
A refreshing and well thought out post from someone who rarely posts and is clearly a genuine enthusiast for the sport
Well done and I agree entirely with your sentiments
Unfortunately the BHA are in the process of destroying the sport we love
Well done and I agree entirely with your sentiments
Unfortunately the BHA are in the process of destroying the sport we love
You are NOT wrong.
Your appraisal is first class, and correct.
Unfortunately, the 'Whitehall type Mandarins' that run racing are more concerned about a few - yes, I repeat, A FEW - 'Antis' and woolly-minded 'Welfare worshippers'.
However, the tide appears to be possibly turning.
Jamie Steer sounded like a broken man on the Morning Line, this morning - and they have already backed down from a stance of.... "that is it, there will be turning back," etc - of just a week ago.
In all business, and walks of life - you should recognise, and look, after the exiting loyal customers you have already got - rather than ALIENATE them - and TEST their LOYALTY-
- By rushing headlong into trying to attract a mostly MYTHICAL amount of Newbies - that only exist in the daydreaming minds of the DELUDED Racing for Change WASTEFUL CLOWNS.
Your appraisal is first class, and correct.
Unfortunately, the 'Whitehall type Mandarins' that run racing are more concerned about a few - yes, I repeat, A FEW - 'Antis' and woolly-minded 'Welfare worshippers'.
However, the tide appears to be possibly turning.
Jamie Steer sounded like a broken man on the Morning Line, this morning - and they have already backed down from a stance of.... "that is it, there will be turning back," etc - of just a week ago.
In all business, and walks of life - you should recognise, and look, after the exiting loyal customers you have already got - rather than ALIENATE them - and TEST their LOYALTY-
- By rushing headlong into trying to attract a mostly MYTHICAL amount of Newbies - that only exist in the daydreaming minds of the DELUDED Racing for Change WASTEFUL CLOWNS.
Who voted that Steer and Roy should 'speak' on 'our' behalf?
Who or what has given them the right to bring the sport into disrepute?
Two weeks ago the the whip or 'jockey's aid' wasn't a public issue, then suddenly it's all over the focking place and the sport is in turmoil with Richard Hughes handing in his license, jockeys threatening to strike and Christophe Soumillon calling English racing an "EMBARRASSMENT".
Perhaps it is all about egos, after all didn't Roy tell Nick Luck that they want to be "world leaders" on racing issues such as the whip?
I've never been as disillusioned with the sport as I have been these past 2 weeks. Watching jockeys scared to do their best for fear of breaking the rules, and others giving fine rides to win races but being penalised heavily for doing so.
What a fecking shambles.
Who or what has given them the right to bring the sport into disrepute?
Two weeks ago the the whip or 'jockey's aid' wasn't a public issue, then suddenly it's all over the focking place and the sport is in turmoil with Richard Hughes handing in his license, jockeys threatening to strike and Christophe Soumillon calling English racing an "EMBARRASSMENT".
Perhaps it is all about egos, after all didn't Roy tell Nick Luck that they want to be "world leaders" on racing issues such as the whip?
I've never been as disillusioned with the sport as I have been these past 2 weeks. Watching jockeys scared to do their best for fear of breaking the rules, and others giving fine rides to win races but being penalised heavily for doing so.
What a fecking shambles.
Lacson,
Thank you for expressing exactly how I feel. I gave up betting on the flat some time ago, worn down by the sheer volume of racing, the crushing sameness of the cards, the mediocrity of many of the people involved. But I'd never given up on jumping, still loved it as much as I did when I first got into the game over forty years ago.
At the end of racing yesterday, I decided that I would no longer bet on NH racing either, because I no longer trust or enjoy the product I'm being offered. It's the only protest available to punters, and the more of us that take this route, the more chance there is that the clowns at the BHA will be exposed as unclothed emperors.
I still have a half share in a staying chaser, but as he has always needed a deal of encouragement in his races although totally genuine and hard to beat in a tight finish, I cannot see him thriving in the current environment. I'll stick with him, because he's done nothing wrong, nor have his trainer and lad. But that will be the end of my involvement as an owner, which began in 1980.
Thank you for expressing exactly how I feel. I gave up betting on the flat some time ago, worn down by the sheer volume of racing, the crushing sameness of the cards, the mediocrity of many of the people involved. But I'd never given up on jumping, still loved it as much as I did when I first got into the game over forty years ago.
At the end of racing yesterday, I decided that I would no longer bet on NH racing either, because I no longer trust or enjoy the product I'm being offered. It's the only protest available to punters, and the more of us that take this route, the more chance there is that the clowns at the BHA will be exposed as unclothed emperors.
I still have a half share in a staying chaser, but as he has always needed a deal of encouragement in his races although totally genuine and hard to beat in a tight finish, I cannot see him thriving in the current environment. I'll stick with him, because he's done nothing wrong, nor have his trainer and lad. But that will be the end of my involvement as an owner, which began in 1980.
Was at Stratford yesterday the place was packed with people who didnt give a t oss about the racing,the only time interest was high was when the 2 horses died.Thats what racing for change and the BHA have done to this great sport.
Totally agree lacson,the BHA have done such damage to the public perception of our sport with these ill judged new rules,
not only has the non racing media's reporting of whats going on given rise to the general public having a poor perception of the sport,but the extreme animal rights fanatics have been fuelled by an opportunity to attack another sport that involves animals.
Imv owners,trainers,jockeys and true racing enthusiasts should stand together against the new rules,which are not good for racing,for those involved in racing and for horses running in races.
not only has the non racing media's reporting of whats going on given rise to the general public having a poor perception of the sport,but the extreme animal rights fanatics have been fuelled by an opportunity to attack another sport that involves animals.
Imv owners,trainers,jockeys and true racing enthusiasts should stand together against the new rules,which are not good for racing,for those involved in racing and for horses running in races.
I said the same thing a few days ago. I have been to Cheltenham every year for the last 8 or 9 years. sadly I dont think I will go this year. its just not the same. your forever thinking, "has he got any of his 8 left for the finish" I am now expected to watch my horse finish second because the winner has not used his allocation until the finish. it doesnt make good viewing.
I said the same thing a few days ago. I have been to Cheltenham every year for the last 8 or 9 years. sadly I dont think I will go this year. its just not the same. your forever thinking, "has he got any of his 8 left for the finish" I am now expected to watch my horse finish second because the winner has not used his allocation until the finish. it doesnt make good viewing.
Seeing as this "Public Perception" is based on one event per year why not give the RSPCA a bigger Bone to chew on and tell them that the Grand National, as it is, will be abolished, a a new kinder race called "The New National" will be born
Redesign Liverpool on the Cross Country course at Cheltenham, limit the field to 25, Make the Chair a Bank, make more turns so they cant go as fast, make the conditions of the race more stricter ie a horse is not eligible if fallen more than twice and give them that in return for more hits of this whip they "Endorse" as not being cruel
If you have to have the toe off there's no need to take the head as well..
The original idea did come from another poster and ive just jazzed it up btw
Redesign Liverpool on the Cross Country course at Cheltenham, limit the field to 25, Make the Chair a Bank, make more turns so they cant go as fast, make the conditions of the race more stricter ie a horse is not eligible if fallen more than twice and give them that in return for more hits of this whip they "Endorse" as not being cruel
If you have to have the toe off there's no need to take the head as well..
The original idea did come from another poster and ive just jazzed it up btw
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