The Morning Line

Worst episode ever!

Kevin DARLEY in situ.

One thing is for sure, it cannot be worse than last weeks Lesley Graham led debacle

Jamie Steer, "joins us on the phone."

I seen that I Say it was stunning to say the least...Well one was left stunned after watcing it.

what has an aussie got to do with british racing ??

Blimey - He sounds like a broken man !

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What are your thoughts on the whip changes? #morningline

Channel 4 Racing


Nick Luck says racing's been humiliated over the last few days when speaking with Jamie Steir, Director of Raceday Operation & Regulations

Steer admits they, "did not run the penalty structure past the jockeys."

" HI, it's Mike here"

MIKE FKN WHO?
Waste of space

I tweeted them last week Analogs to say I was disappointed that Lesley Graham's review of Welsh Hen Nights got more coverage than an Ascot preview - got a very lively tweet back from them.

wISH AN ALL BLACK WAS THERE TO  PUNCH THAT FOOKIN AUSSIE IN THE HEAD.

That is where the problem lies - Darley had a brainstorming session with Jockeys!

Decent performance from Mr Luck there.

An unfortunate turn of phrase.

Darley out of his depth here

Kevin Darly just needs to say we have been ignored in this process.

Jockeys met with the BHA in June.

Jockeys were then informed of the new Rules - along with everybody else - on Sept 27th

The Rules were implemented on Oct 10th.

We need to talk about Kevin

jockeys are now saying that they weren't informed of the severity of penalties

Ah now i wont have that . .He barely touched him

FOOKIN ELL BUICK. Uses his whip like a 4year old girl.

channel4 team getting stuck in

this whip fiasco will continue

Calm down, Sherlock.

buick using that whip so gently that nobody now believes it doesn't hurt

Buick whips his girlfriend harder than that

Problem is jockeys are as clueless as the BHA. As Darley just said, this was agreed and only when the fines came in did they object, and Darley still can't say much about the jumps until the season is in full swing.

Jamie Stier confirmed jockeys were not consulted on whip penalties

Here we go....

The CEO of World Horse Welfare.

WHW inventing garbage just to get their minute in the limelight.

They have been now.

'public perception'

Horse Welfare "We accept the new whip doesn't hurt"

nick luck FUMING

The Horse Welfare man sounds as if he is spluttering on his Lentils.

Claims 20 horses a year are marked, and the skin broken.

UNTRUE.

He done a poll among his staff no doubt and put it down as the general public.

I,m heading towards thinking fook horses welfare. Race horses are treated better than fookin cats

WHW playing the indignity card and pretending he knows something about horses

"we carried out survey of our supporters"

would nick luck give current trainers or current jockeys such a hard time he has given this lot this morning ?

wonder how much a year this tree hugger is on? get him off.

Get this over-excitable gobsh!te off this RACING programme.-

He's worse than listening to McCririck.

as per usual 25 minutes in and no races discussed.

they better be careful or they will run out of tome for the quiz.

Roly Owers ... what a tube!!

general public watch 2 races a year---grand national---derby

no one complained about the whip---just jumps

*time*

Is there any racing today?

People who think public perception does not matter should tell us who will fund the sport if sponsors walk away.

Kevin Darley = Chocolate teapot

Take racing off terrestrial TV ... problem solved.

tambhoy5     22 Oct 11 08:26 
as per usual 25 minutes in and no races discussed
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Some might see that as 'a result'.

were not exactly talking bull fights

Roly Owers sputtering

900 whip offences a year because the BHA introduced new lower strokes rules.
it's been said before on here but everytime the BHA reduce the number of strokes it simply gives idiots like these more ammo.
they are either too thick or too devious to accept that jockeys are hitting horses much less but that there are more whip offences because of new stringent rules.

Roly Owers. Spouting the type of rubbish that the BHA has based these rules on. Welcome to racing run by the animal rights brigade.

xmoneyx: Grand National viewers did complain about the stick.

In fact, these should be known as the Jason Maguire memorial whip rules.

darley drowning in his own incomptence

catt cuddling upto him  (youve had an impossible job kevin)

even luck couldnt fail to question his change of mind every few days

Will Nick ask the questions real slow for Darleys guest test ?

Or tell him to grow some fookin balls

ok---never realised--thx

Simon Holt, you the man!

900 whip offences, what sort of percentage is that with horses ridden per year ?

must be very low.

"Ramruma Joined: 11 Dec 02
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xmoneyx: Grand National viewers did complain about the stick.

In fact, these should be known as the Jason Maguire memorial whip rules.
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fifteen times more complained about balding telling treadwell he could afford to get his teeth done

the BHA must be really happy to have their own man inside the PJA

What odds against anyone on the BHA ever admitting they've made a mistake (any issue over next say 12 months)?
Listening to Steir is like listening to a politician. Doesn't actually lie but doesn't tell the whole truth !

Outpost - I have always thought that would be his preferred option.

i can see jockeys striking an steir resigning

Ramruna. How many viewers complained about the whip to the BBC? (By the way I know the answer just want to find out what you are getting at)

Too late for silly rhetorical questions roggrain. The whip debate is  over and we are on to the Racing Post Trophy and Old Roan Chase. Get with the programme!

Steir and Darley must go. The other geezer I couldn't give a cr a p about. He was there for the taking and the C4 team missed it.

Where was the punters representative? Its our money they are distributing do't we have a say other than tweets?
How come a 'rule for cheats' never came up?

Ridiculous.

And 'whip offences' more often refer to hitting in the wrong place not over use of the whip.

What I would like to know is how many 'whip offences' were based upon number of hits.

Fair enough Ramruna. By the way. Almost 8 million viewers watched the Grand National. Apparently 8 complained. The whip debate is not over. It cannot be over or racing is destined to collapse.

Luck talks over Simon Holt's inside info tip. Though each-way suggests the Lee family is not that confident.

Book review up next - anything but racing on this show IMO

Worse still - all these Francis books are FICTION.

I've read the book (kindle). It is not that bad if you are a fan.

id rather read the bible than one of this guys books

I went to the book shop yesterday for that new book for men with small p1n1s1s......she said "its not in yet"






THATS THE ONE!

felix francis ffs

thanks for that interview ill be able to sleep tonight now

already stopped watching as they've already covered this week's race.

Btw, the Francis book talks about kicking horses in the belly which the public might find more off-putting than the whip.

How many correct answers did Dick Francis's son get in the guest test,and what horse did Sam Thomas pick out for his dark horse,I had to turn off due to burnt toast incident in the kitchen.

you did the "right thing"

900 whip offences a year. what percentage is that of actaul runners? must be very small. surprised the toff didn't pick that up

Sam Thomas? Seven in the Guest test.

time  for  regulation  for  jockeys.     as   in license  trade  .question  ability  to  perform  their  trade  ,  FIT  AND  PROPER  PERSON  COMES  TO  MIND  .start  with  honesty  ,integrity  ,no  previous  convictions  on  police  records  ,  play  within  rules    100%  or  you put  the  sport  in  trouble  .B.H.A.  SEEMS  A TOTALLY  TOOTHLESS  organisatoin  who  pander  to  trainers  owners  and  mostly  jockeys , afraid  to  clean out  the  baddies  ,  they  know  who  they  are  ? Time for a punters  charter  with a  body  on  B.H.A.  .punters to  keep  a  league  table  of  non   triers    be  it  jock  ,trainer  or  owner  ,..  Every  day  sees    threads  about  what  has  gone  on  ,    Betfair  please  tell us  why  mc  cain  now on payroll,  mc  guire   his  jock  set  the  alarm  bells  ringing  after  national  ,, he  d  done  it  before at  donny  I think  . Let  them  away  with  abuse  once  and  they  repeat it  again at  a  later  date  .do   they  condone  over  use  of  whip  come  what  may  ??discuss???   unfortunately  an  apprentice  got  a  lot  of  stick  for  a  poor  performance  just  yesterday  ?  classic  example  of  what  is  not  being  addressed  properly  by  B/H/A/....