BBC News this morning! What the f @ c k has the BHA brought upon us?

Where they hot?

praying that the BHA get some decent rules revision out today....
Praying even more that comical roy of the rovers is out as well

Doubt if you will get Roy boy falling on his sword he enjoys being captain mainwaring to much.

He looks more like Captain Pugwash..

Now i wonder who could be Master Bates ???

I think all of the BHA are Master Bates

And to rub it in, there still calling it a Whip, the whip has been banned in Btitish Horseracing.

The BBC asked two airhead bimbos " Should horses be whipped ? ". Hardly a cross section of public opinion. Disgraceful journalism, as per usual .

the BBC has been anti horse racing for years.
why do you think they put balding and carson on the programmes.

harry2.1 21 Oct 11 09:35 
The BBC asked two airhead bimbos " Should horses be whipped ? ". Hardly a cross section of public opinion. Disgraceful journalism, as per usual .

Although pretty representative of the average racegoer thses days imo.

Its called selective views, as bad as interviewing the person, from World Horse Wellfear, the Joke Pub have been taking advice from, i bet he has been watching recording off it none stop. wetting his panties with Orga$ms and floating high on Elation.

Truble is with the new Persauder, it looks like the old whip, and the people who gain there living from horseracing certain press dogs keep writing about banning the already banned whip, a borring story on in a borring weet week, and the so called amamal lover, who hates horses, the CONMAN mouth-piece, who has chanpioned his crusade to ban the already banned Whip,for his selfish greedy lifestyle, Rupert MacMouth, (He dose not give a fiddlers f*ck about a racehorses wellfare), (FACT), but he dose not mind cioning in on his Con,a Drama Queen Hypo-crite, "if he cares so much, why dose he not make a donation to any retired racehorse charity, from his kickbacks he a gladly recive from his immoral earning", kets say a percentage of the £2.000 CASH he demands from opening betting shops, ect, nevver mind the TV apperances, all gained from a lie he a championed for far to long, off the racehorse's back, there a few Ruperts, farcing around British racecorses,bluffing there way, SINdicate sellers, bloodstock exburks, talking bull, to people who know absolutly nothing about race horses or racing, as long as there willing to listen to there bull and buy.

John and Jenny McCririck are patrons of Greatwood and have done a huge amount for horse welfare. Then again, we shouldn't let the facts spoil your stream of (semi)consciousness acklash.

The McCriricks will end up with a field full of ineffective racehorses in their back garden if they are not careful!

race conditions = horse fitness = outcome of usage of the instrument = racehorse = ?

Yes the real world is a bit of a shocker isn't it?

You can pick what you like out of this morning's programme. Perhaps you don't like the idea of a little balance. They did interview Tom Dascombe more than once. For me the most important thing he said was that it is the waving of the whip that motivates the horse - so why hit it then?

I am no fan of big macs blustering but he has contributed greatly financially to the care of retired racehorses and that is no bad thing imo.

They could have mentioned the limited opportunities for reluctant horses if they cant use the whip sensibly. We need an outraged media like a hole in the head if it gets like dog racing when dodgy dogs get put to sleep because they will not run. The Law of Unintended Consequences ?

jmdc/differndum. show me the facts, prove The Selfish Ranter gives his own CASH, like the CASH he gets from personal appearance's like opening betting shops ect, for CASH. I will repeat, the whip is BANNED in British horseraceing. B.A.N.N.E.D.

In previous years, nothing to do with racing or betting, I would be asked my opinion by the BBC/ITV/press/radio.

Can I tell you now they are after a story not the truth. The truth is not sensational. They want stories of wheals on the hindquarters of horses, bleeding gushing out of raw wounds, horses limping round the stables with festering sores and sadistic jockeys revelling in inflicting pain driving the horses on with no care or concern for their welfare.

This is what they really want, it makes a good story.

One thing for sure Guinness2dear, Claire Balding will not be playing the part of seaman Staines....

You make the valid point six gun, the media have usually prepared their story before interviewing anyone and choose the soundbytes accordingly.

I emailed the BBC, the other day - following an ERROR that a woman 'Sports' reporter made on the BBC News.

Started a thread on the same item ... reproduced, below ...
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Misguided, and incorrect, Whip report on BBC News

onlooker:   14 Oct 11 13:42

BBC 1-00 o'clock News - just had a Woman Sports reporter (Well, after all, the Head of BBC Sport is a WOMAN, too) reporting on the 'Jockeys Strike'.

In explaining the issue, she said...

" Jockeys are only allowed to strike the horse 7 times in a race - BUT -

They HAVE to hit the horse 5 times in the final furlong.

There we go - 'a little  knowledge is a dangerous thing' - and now the Public have a FURTHER WRONG impression.

-add ... First Rule of journalism .... VALIDATE your FACTS.

six guns, the FACT, and thet dont give a dam if it wright or wrong or give a dam what damage they do, even if there wrong, there 90% of them are scum, Horseracing have more than its fair share of these corrupt scum.

dod, names dates how much, has that lieing scum, give to "racehorse charitys", proof please ??????????, anyone can spout the mouth off, like that selfish Hypo-crite, and when is he going to revile this claim, of the Corruption that went on in The Sporting Life, when he was in charge of reporting, he said, he was sorry he did not expose it at the time, well JMdc, you seem to know the lieing ranter, ok. can you persuade him to revile what he is hiding, from the racing public, ther still about........ He at one time, protrayed, himself i'm representing the punter, (THE PUNTERS PAL) MaC the Mouth, untill an easer touch came along, too inhance his FACE, for his pocket, ranting on about something that dose not excist, the banned whip in British Horsefacing,there is something that resembles one. just something too PERSUADE.

^

found a paper boy, .

Gerrygallbladder, can you also, give me proof of MaC the Mouths, generosity

acklash

Here are a couple of specifics (which no doubt you'll pick holes in)....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00cndz6

Cash In The Celebrity Attic - The infamous and outspoken racing tipster John McCririck and his long suffering wife 'the Booby' invite the Cash in the Attic team into their fascinating London home, so they can raise money together for retired racehorses.

http://www.doolallys.com/Poker/poker-articles/littlewoods-poker-all-star-challenge.htm

Celebrity Poker - £2000 raised by McCririck for Greatwood

The point I'd make though acklash is that McCririck and his wife have done almost unquantifiable good in terms of using their profile (his profile really) to raise public awareness of Greatwood and the tremendous work it does. If you could put a figure on this, I'm sure that it would run into tens of thousands.

Someone has to say it but if he has raised all that much for the said Charity how come (from memory on C4 racing) they have only re-homed 80 horses over the years ! I nearly fell of my chair when that figure was mentioned, from all the bold talk I thought that it must be thousands..

I think Greatwood is a brilliant charity. I do though question when famous or rich people make charitable donations because they are tax free. So dependent upon the level of tax to be paid decides the level of the donation.
Add to that J Mac opened his house for others to pay the money he donated and the celebrity poker was money he won raised in a celebrity poker match. I know it is nit picking but there is a large element of self publicising as well.

A bit like Who want to be a Millionaire and their charity shows. Massive tax relief hugely reduce donations.

Not quite the same as you and me putting our hands in our pockets and handing over our cash. In my opinion of course.

Gerry Pallbearer...So he opened up his house for "Cash In The Attic," no fee involved for the smelly one then ? And he went on "Celebrity Poker" for nothing ? Oh dear he would not even talk to you unless cash was involved.Consign him to the dustbin...

Just a quickie,Gerry.

Who was the the most prominent opponent to a ban on foxhunting ?

Who was the most prominent opoenent to a ban on on Coursing ?

flyingbolt - You surely can't think that Mac is more prominent than Prince Charles, the Duchess of Cornwall, Prine William, Prince Harry, David Cameron, the Duke of Westminster, David Bellamy, Harry Enfield, Jeremy Irons, Bryan Ferry (and his son Otis), Sir Mark Prescott or even Clarissa Dickson-Wright?

Oh dear..surely Gerry Gallbladder is not the Booby...Surely not ...

Gerry I think Flyingbolt was refering to the horseracing industry. This is a horse racing forum.

brigust

But according to nearly everyone on here Mac spends at least as much time being a celebrity or promoting himself as he does being a horseracing journalist. For the purposes of flyingbolt's question maybe Mac should be excluded from the list of possible answers too then?

Gerry you have just exposed yourself as the Booby.Please give John his supper,pat him on the head,take his nappy off and get yourself a good nights sleep.Tommorrow will be a whole new day.....

The thing about Fat Mac going on these supposed celebrity type programmes that have nothing to do with racing is that once he goes on one, the makers of others (some might even be the same makers) then know he's open to possibly going on their programme and that probably explains why he's been on Celebrity Big Brother and all of the spin-offs of that, Wife Swap, Coach Trip (all Channel 4 at the time) Hell's Kitchen, the Weakest Link as well as various chat shows (Alan Titchmarsh etc.) and radio stations.

Surely it's only a matter of time before he goes on I'm A Non-entity......and then ends up doing the Iceland adverts!

What you have to remember guys is groups like Animal Welfare infiltrate racing and other animal related forums just to create unrest and push their message. These guys aren't punters and their agenda is not the success of our sport. It is the demise of it.

Getting into arguments with these blinkered activists is just what they want. All they seem to do all day long is infest these debates with their one-sided views.

If guys like Gerry Gallbladder were genuine, pro-active, successful punters they would do anything not to change the status quo. But they aren't. That is why they pour out their nonsensical drivel.

Try not to give them the time of day. They may go away.

Not for me to talk for flyingbolt, but did he mean most prominent from witin racing, GG?

I remember at newmarket one day when my daughter (then 9) went up to big mac to ask him to sign her programme.
she was really pleased because she already had luca cumani and frankie dettori on there but mac told her to go away and buy his book and he would sign that for her. 

I've never had any time for him since that day.

brigust, I should have another read of your last post - most of it from what I have read on here appears to sum you up pretty well. I haven't got a clue whether you are a successful punter or not but like most of your comments that is totally irrelevant to the overall picture. As I have said before the horse itself doesn't seem to matter to you - it just provides something you can bet on - that and the mistaken belief that unless you hit a horse with a whip it isn't trying is all you seem to care about. Horse racing is not a closed shop although that by your reference to 'our sport' is what you would like - it is a sport that can be enjoyed by anyone. It is you who is blinkered.

r carver - I thought I answered your point earlier on the thread....

But according to nearly everyone on here Mac spends at least as much time being a celebrity or promoting himself as he does being a horseracing journalist. For the purposes of flyingbolt's question maybe Mac should be excluded from the list of possible answers too then?

I think Greatwood is a brilliant charity. I do though question when famous or rich people make charitable donations because they are tax free. So dependent upon the level of tax to be paid decides the level of the donation.

WALOFS. If you donate an amount to charity the charity can claim back the tax you paid on that amount. If you pay tax at x% that means it will personally cost you (100 - x)% of the donation.


If guys like Gerry Gallbladder were genuine, pro-active, successful punters they would do anything not to change the status quo. But they aren't. That is why they pour out their nonsensical drivel.

I'm a genuine, pro-active, successful punter and one of the reasons I want rid of the whip is because it's an aid to cheating.

How can we take seriously anyone who uses their real name to post on this forum...

Shouldn't you be attending a Sunday coffee morning for sweety wives you simple minded fk?

And a real charmer to boot !!

Sorry, that was a bit ott. Fed up hearing that obvious play on my forum name.

Differentdrum. All you did in your last post was show just how completely ignorant you are of horse racing.

Frankly your views mean absolutely nothing to me. All I am interested in is the success of horseracing in this country. To achieve success the sport relies completely on finances from gambling. If horseracing becomes a safe haven for crooks and cheats then there is only one way it can go, down.

That is exactly why I cannot understand the stance of anyone who wants the whip banned because it is definitely a 'cheats charter'. So by that fact I discern you are not a successful gambler otherwise you too would would be worried about crooks and cheats.

And I do believe the whip should be used when necessary. The decision about when and whether to use the whip I am quite happy to leave to the professionals I respect.