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Perhaps I gave him too much credit for being his own man as Head of Communications.
Perhaps he told the Board ages ago that last week was not the right time to introduce the new rules and that if they went ahead it would be a PR disaster.
Perhaps they chose to ignore him and he lacked the courage of his convictions and gave them an ultimatum.
If that's the case, I wonder if he feels his position is untenable and without the full confidence of the Board in abiding by his advice how can he continue to feel comfortable in his role?
If, on the other hand, he failed to inform the Board of the potential PR disaster looming then he has only himself to blame if he gets the boot this week.
Perhaps he told the Board ages ago that last week was not the right time to introduce the new rules and that if they went ahead it would be a PR disaster.
Perhaps they chose to ignore him and he lacked the courage of his convictions and gave them an ultimatum.
If that's the case, I wonder if he feels his position is untenable and without the full confidence of the Board in abiding by his advice how can he continue to feel comfortable in his role?
If, on the other hand, he failed to inform the Board of the potential PR disaster looming then he has only himself to blame if he gets the boot this week.
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Too hard - probably yes.
Being PR man for the t****rs at the BHA must be about as tricky as being in charge of nursery provision for King Herod.
Being PR man for the t****rs at the BHA must be about as tricky as being in charge of nursery provision for King Herod.
he looked totally knackered last night when giving that statement.
Suspect he is doing the best he can in having to represent a board of directors who probably should be restricted to being honorary trustees or patrons of much smaller groups such as the local street Annual Royal Wedding Committee
Suspect he is doing the best he can in having to represent a board of directors who probably should be restricted to being honorary trustees or patrons of much smaller groups such as the local street Annual Royal Wedding Committee
This is the review group.
Andrew Merriam (Chairman) Chairman of the Stewarding and Disciplinary Policy Committee
Anthony Mildmay-White Chairman of the Rules Committee
Jamie Stier (Working Party Leader) Director of Raceday Operations and Regulation
Timothy Morris Director of Equine Science and Welfare
Paul Struthers Head of Communications
William Nunneley Head of Stewarding
Nigel Macfarlane Head of Disciplinary
Sara Hay-Jahans Head of Industry Recruitment and Training
Rules constructed on back of report dont even agree to their findings
2.29 Restricting the use of the whip to permitting its use down
the shoulder with the jockey’s hands remaining on the reins
only is considered to be too restrictive from a safety point of
view. The jockeys explained that restricting the use of the whip
in this manner would have an adverse effect on their ability in
assisting the horse to maintain its balance, particularly in the
later stages of a race.
Andrew Merriam (Chairman) Chairman of the Stewarding and Disciplinary Policy Committee
Anthony Mildmay-White Chairman of the Rules Committee
Jamie Stier (Working Party Leader) Director of Raceday Operations and Regulation
Timothy Morris Director of Equine Science and Welfare
Paul Struthers Head of Communications
William Nunneley Head of Stewarding
Nigel Macfarlane Head of Disciplinary
Sara Hay-Jahans Head of Industry Recruitment and Training
Rules constructed on back of report dont even agree to their findings
2.29 Restricting the use of the whip to permitting its use down
the shoulder with the jockey’s hands remaining on the reins
only is considered to be too restrictive from a safety point of
view. The jockeys explained that restricting the use of the whip
in this manner would have an adverse effect on their ability in
assisting the horse to maintain its balance, particularly in the
later stages of a race.
I e-mailed him last night. I don`t know him from Adam but his address is widely available. He replied quite quickly and thanked me for being civil as apparently a lot weren`t being. Mine I considered hostile but not abusive.Didn`t really tell me anything else I didn`t already know but the tone was pleasant. I doubt Roy would be in the unlikely event he replied at all.
Thank you, salmon. In that case I unreservedly withdraw all my calls for him to go.
It seems that perhaps most of the time his hands are tied by his inept colleagues.
It is to be hoped that he does not become the sacrificial lamb as a way of covering for Roy's deficiencies.
It seems that perhaps most of the time his hands are tied by his inept colleagues.
It is to be hoped that he does not become the sacrificial lamb as a way of covering for Roy's deficiencies.
That's what he gets paid for.
And of course will receive a healthy pension for..
He is a branch off the same tree. They all should go..
And of course will receive a healthy pension for..
He is a branch off the same tree. They all should go..
the CEO has gone has he not LL, cant be long now....
The CEO was a temporary appointment anyway FD. They have an Aussie lined up for it permanently 
What I saw him reading out last night was very like Roy speak from Saturday . Try a straight bat and frustrate the natives .
I suspect the difference is that Struthers KNOWS it is a mess. Roy seems blithely unaware.
Roy is totally aware. His Everest like ego refuses to come down from its pedestal and back down even when he is driving over the cliff and taking everyone with him. Golden rule no. 1 of a CEO or a Chairman. Never admit to the peasants that you made a mistake.
Lucky Lucan, I think you are entitled to say what you want on this forum...but when you are demanding heads it is not appropriate to do that when a) you don't know what you're talking about and b) are doing it from a position of anonymity.
Apart from that - kick on son.
IMO.
Apart from that - kick on son.
IMO.
Roy is fast becoming the Gerald Ratner of the racing world.
The Headmaster appears to think you need a good whipping Lucan.
the fact he has called himself the headmaster tells you all you really need to know about his character...
The Headmaster, I doff my school cap to your seniority, sir.
Yes, I agree that to be promoting wholesale sackings is not cricket and is at odds with my normal desire to support the underdog.
And yet, there is something about this whole scenario that has brought out the worst in me, and I just know that it's to do with a certain person's apparent arrogance and obstinacy in seeming to ignore the thoughts and desires of the majority of punters.
I apologise if I have tarred his cohorts with the same brush when in fact they might feel just as helpless as most of us do to influence events.
Yes, I agree that to be promoting wholesale sackings is not cricket and is at odds with my normal desire to support the underdog.
And yet, there is something about this whole scenario that has brought out the worst in me, and I just know that it's to do with a certain person's apparent arrogance and obstinacy in seeming to ignore the thoughts and desires of the majority of punters.
I apologise if I have tarred his cohorts with the same brush when in fact they might feel just as helpless as most of us do to influence events.
it used to be the case that when **** ups were made gentlemen of substance fell on their own swords, nowadays their fingers have to be prised from their desks kicking and screaming
sounds like Roy has personally attached the Golden Handcuffs to his desk in High Holborn....
Yes FD, those were the days when men of principle and higher values than we mere mortals led by example and set standards of decency and probity in their commercial pursuits.
but in the interests of fairness and equanimity as the headmaster seems to be a cheer leader for the status quo maybe he can enlighten us all as to the progress made under the 2 Roys tenureship.
come on HM teach me the errors in my thinking, I am willing to back them both if your rhetoric is convincing
Are there 2 Roys FD ? [:o]
Do you mean 2 Pauls maybe
Do you mean 2 Pauls maybe
'Fat Dodgy' makes assumptions based on other folk's user names. Yep, 'Fat Dodgy'. I think I've hit a new career low 
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the fact he has called himself the headmaster tells you all you really need to know about his character...
You wouldn't know as you joined five years after me, 'Fat Dodgy', but the user name came about due to a prolonged thread with myself, Bacchanal and minnow which centred around an imaginary school. It was a rather good thread imo. But, as I said, you wouldn't know the FACTS, so I will excuse you. Anyway, this thread isn't about me, you, the whip or Paul Roy. It is about LuckyLucan demanding Struthers' head. I've said my bit, LL has replied with consideration and a touch of remorse - hats off - and good luck to him.
18 Oct 11 12:08
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the fact he has called himself the headmaster tells you all you really need to know about his character...
You wouldn't know as you joined five years after me, 'Fat Dodgy', but the user name came about due to a prolonged thread with myself, Bacchanal and minnow which centred around an imaginary school. It was a rather good thread imo. But, as I said, you wouldn't know the FACTS, so I will excuse you. Anyway, this thread isn't about me, you, the whip or Paul Roy. It is about LuckyLucan demanding Struthers' head. I've said my bit, LL has replied with consideration and a touch of remorse - hats off - and good luck to him.
i did indeed salmon. please forgive my presumption HM, I get called a fat coont all the time and have allowed this to colour my judgement.
I too think that its time for a change at the top of racing as this weeks debacle seems to me to be the thin edge of the wedge
I too think that its time for a change at the top of racing as this weeks debacle seems to me to be the thin edge of the wedge
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