martin lane to micky fitz. joke and extremely unfair! And You'd be hopin they will squash all the current bans or at least reinstate the prize money and fee

what does Paul Roy do for a real job? Are they as badly managed as the BHA?

Nick Luck

The review will be reviewed this week; with the findings of the review of the review to be reviewed on Friday. Ok?

Adrian Nicholls
Can I now go on the dole now I am banned and they took my money o yea and were does that go #mustbeneverneverland

martin lane
When the likes of Joe Fanning are getting done for the whip you know you've serious issues!!!

Claire Balding '1furlong limit is a mistake & penalties are extreme. Fine could be a precentage of prize money for owner, trainer & jockey, not just jock

David Johnson
No mention of the whip review on Channel 4 News. Surprising really seeing as the changes have been made for the general public

Richie Killoran
rumour has it that they there are putting up an overhead sign like on the motorway, at the 1furlong pole with a flashing 5!

Kim Bailey
Perhaps the review will suggest a large white line across the course a furlong from the winning post?

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What the fk was going on at the BHA meeting between 12.30pm and 6.30pm

Minute 4.11.9.b - at 3.08pm Johnston interrupted the meeting to ask for the 3.10 Pontefract to be relayed, assuring the other members of the board that his stable jockey would win the race and they should avail themselves of suitable odds with their commission agent.
When asked how he knew this, Johnston advised that his jock would f**k the rules to get this horse to win.

Wilson Renwick
Animal Aid must b lovin this. They do all they can to ruin our sport. At the moment that's nothing, as the BHA are doing it for them.

Gay Kelleway Racing
Didn't see any happy jockeys at Windsor today ! Very subdued ..... We are not in a good place in British racing at present .....

Paul Struthers  on twitter about where are the Jockeys fines gone:

BHA has said from day one and I've said numerous times on here, it sits separately, untouched in escrow in a 3rd party account until decided how best to use

Now i have seen it all this is the BHA COMMITEE..It'll take you a while to work it out it's in PDF form so it might slow your p.c.

http://bit.ly/qxyJYa

The guys in the whip guidelines committee have done such a "good job" that the rest of them will soon be out of a job. Talk about destroying a billion pound industry...all on the whim of the guy at the top who thought it would be great idea to do it now!

BHA_HighHolborn BHA
What's all the fuss about? Everything is great. Nothing to see here. Go away....shoo.

pedrobob That is the real Paul Struthers

Whip row grows as new rules remain and more jockeys are banned
• Changes to rules must be carefully considered, says BHA
• Time running out for solution, jockeys' official warns


Greg Wood
guardian.co.uk,     Monday 17 October 2011

The British Horseracing Authority appeared to shift the focus back on to the country's jockeys on Monday when it said that strict new rules on the use of the whip, which have produced a series of bans and fines since their introduction a week ago, will remain in place while the Review Group which recommended the changes considers possible amendments to the regulations.

The BHA met jockeys' representatives at its High Holborn offices on Monday, a meeting which lasted less than two hours, and later issued a statement which said that it expected its Review Group to report back by the end of the week on evidence that might support changes to the new rules.

The statement said that the BHA board had "listened to … proposals for adjustments to the new rules and guidelines on the use of the whip in horseracing". It stressed that the new rules were introduced following a review "undertaken over 10 months by an expert working group involving widespread consultation and evidence-gathering from stakeholders across the sport", and that "any change to regulations must be carefully considered".

As a result, the BHA said, "appropriate evidence needs to be reviewed and there will need to be engagement with other relevant parties. The board has directed the Review Group to undertake this process and report back by no later than the end of the week."

It remains to be seen whether this will satisfy the jockeys after an afternoon on which five more riders were banned for at least five days, at meetings which took place only after a threat of strike action by jockeys was averted on Friday when the BHA agreed to the meeting on Monday.

Kevin Darley, the Professional Jockeys' Association chief executive, was joined by the riders Frankie Dettori, Tony McCoy, Richard Hughes and Ryan Moore as he met senior racing administrators following a scheduled meeting of the BHA's board.

Darley said later: "We will continue to work closely with the British Horseracing Authority in coming days to bring this matter to a satisfactory conclusion. We will await the BHA's response to the very realistic and sensible proposals that the jockeys made to the authority today.

"However, time is pressing and amendments to the new rules that jockeys believe are workable need to be adopted very soon. As far as jockeys are concerned the current situation cannot continue, and we have made that clear to the BHA. A resolution to this issue must be found."

The list of jockeys facing significant bans increased steadily through Monday afternoon, when the jockeys found in breach of the whip rules included Kieren Fox, who was the first rider to be banned under the regulations following their introduction last week.

Fox was banned for 15 days for hitting his mount 11 times when winning a race at Salisbury on 10 October, and was banned for a further 10 days for his latest offence, on Push Me in a handicap at Windsor.

The other riders who were banned on Monday were Micky Fenton (seven days), Adrian Nicholls (five days) and Joe Fanning (five days), who were all found in breach of the rules at Pontefract, and the amateur jumps jockey Jack Quinlan, who received seven days for excessive use of the whip at Plumpton.

Fanning, who said later that the ban was only his third for a whip offence in a 21-year career, was suspended for striking his mount six times inside the final furlong, which is one more than the permitted number of strikes although fewer than the seven that are allowed through the course of an entire race. "I misjudged it," Fanning said afterwards. "I thought the first crack I gave him was outside the furlong pole. I'd used my quota, so I put my stick down near the line."

Christophe Soumillon has confirmed he will appeal against the ruling that he was in breach of the new whip rules when winning the Champion Stakes at Ascot on Saturday, as a result of which he forfeited his £52,000 share of the prize money. He was adjudged to have hit his mount, Cirrus Des Aigles, six times inside the final furlong but later complained that he had little chance of spotting the furlong pole amid the sponsor's various banners.

Following the news of the BHA review, there was speculation that next Monday's meetings, when racing is scheduled at Southwell, Leicester and Redcar, could become targets for possible strike action.

If by the winter he means the AW then that would have made more sense in some ways for flat racing at least and if the odd jockey lost their prize money percentage of a £1800 to £2000 race then that's one thing, but to bring it in during the week of the big Ascot meeting and risk a jockey losing £50k was sheer stupidity......plenty of jockeys won't win that much in prize money throughout the whole season!

It would also have given those who rode on the AW a chance to get used to the new rules under a low profile so that by the time the bigger names came back, it was generally in use and they would have to adapt but could even do so at the start of the new turf season but again under a low profile.

I think the best idea I read on here was to paint a thick white line across the track at the furlong pole. It seems that everyone agrees that the rules are great - its just that its hard for the jockeys to know when they go past the furlong marker at race speed.