Do you prefer flat or jumps?

Same as that

flat for me, jumps is a bloodbath and all about one meeting each year, flat is quality all the way through

Flat is like playing bingo, the jumps like playing poker.

100% jumps.

One thing I HATE about flat racing is those crappy 5-6f sprints every saturday. The same horses run every time and every week a different one wins! No consistency whatsoever..... but I suppose the draw decided who wins half the races.

jumps for me

Jumps by an absolute country mile.

Flat is repetitive tedium. I don't think I have ever been excited about attending a flat meeting. I must go to 10 times more jumps meetings than flat.

I really struggle to see the appeal of the flat.

I find the jumps very difficult to win at, I only bet at Chelts and the GN and that's only for fun. I do well on the flat, it's easier to find decent priced winners as the races are more competative

How about those swimming races in Germany!

? WOT PRICE THE DUCK

Im sure ive written this before

The Flat season has a rhythm, its like spending a spring and summer and early fall on a series of dates with a beautiful woman via the festivals

The Jumps season however seems you are stuck most of the winter in a monastery eating bread and water with monks only to be let out for 4 days with a pair of Brazilian Hookers, a Crate of Booze and a bag of Columbians finest

ZILZAL

those 4 days are worth it though!

sounds a bloody good 4 days though !

Although I do enjoy the big flat meetings my overwhelming preference is for the jumps - always has been and always will.

( I must say i preferred the 3 day festival )

I know what people mean about the jumps are about cheltenham, but that is mainly driven by the media and c4.

Their are so many good jump meetings between now, march and beyond.

Newbury Henasy meeting is a cracker. Then the King george... ireland at Xmas etc.

Plumpton on a wet Monday in November is what its all about

lets hope we get a decent winter then

lets hope we get a decent winter then

Flat by miles.

Any top class jump race that is not a handicap (are there are very few of them) is not even important in itself , just a pointer towards Cheltenham (except maybe the KingGeorge).People whine that the best flat horses only run for 1 or 2 seasons but at least they run fairly often while they are around. Cheltenham dwarfs everything else so completely that the very best chasers will run maybe 2 or 3 times before it.

Newburys hennessey  meeting is one of my favs, always go the 3 days. It doesnt have a lot of prizemoney or graded races but the quality is very, very high.

Do you live locally Sonko mate?

I'm not far from Newbury. Ive never been.

About 1 mile away, i live in newbury town centre.

I have been in your home town this weekend.

Surprised you have not been to newbury yet, it is one of the best tracks for the viewer.

I'm spoilt..

Aintree  Thursday - Friday - Saturday  Summer jumps  Octberfest Next week   Becher chase

Chester  Every meeting

Ah cool. I'm definitely thinking of going for the hennessey this year.

I love that race.

Jumps by a country mile for me , the Hennessey meeting is a real feel good factor and reminds you what you've got to look forward to for the next 6 months.


As with everything though it's each to their own and life would be dishwater if we all liked the same thing 

I like the jumpers,but i am a flat man through and through.

I like the jumpers,but i am a flat man through and through.

Jumps much the best

Low class jump racing is much more appealing than low class flat racing

The flat jocks are a right miserable lot too.

Ibrahima and Mr Eboue - NH stalwarts, I always enjoy your posts. Like you, I am 100% NH.

Tallywagger - It might just be me, but low class jumping is preferable to high class flat racing.

Not just you Carver ; I prefer a Plumpton class 3 or 4 handicap chase to the flat, even top quality flat.

Love the jumps its the progression through Bumper to chaser over the seasons. Chelt do overshadow other meetings but if you ignore that then those 3mile chases at Carlisle or a Nov Hdl at Newbury just bloody fantastic.

The worst quality jump meeting is still ahead of the best flat racedays in my opinion.

The first thing I thought when they announced the champions day date was that it must be a mistake as it clashes with Cheltenham. I struggle to see why anyone would have chosen a day at Ascot today over a day at Cheltenham. I even prefer to go summer jumping on Derby day.

It is strange though as I know people who have the complete opposite view.

Chepstow, Chetltenham, Chepstow, Aintree/Wincanton, Ascot/Wetherby, Exter, Sandown/Wincanton, Bangor (peddlers?), Cheltenham, Ascot, Haydock, Newbury/Newcastle, Sandown/Aintree, Cheltenham, Newbury, Ascot, Kempton, Chepstow, Leopardstown - plus all the terrific smaller, midweek meetings, and from ireland - Zilzal, it is worth spending all summer in prison to have that run to christmas!

You look at a Plumpton class 3 or 4 handicap chase, you look at form but forget about the draw.

You look at a Plumpton class 3 or 4 handicap chase and you forget about dodgy watering.

You look at a Plumpton class 3 or 4 handicap chase you do not worry about being boxed in.

You look at a Plumpton class 3 or 4 handicap chase and dont even look at the form as you know each horse.......

IS - agree with all the above! I do not bet AP on the flat, but how do you factor those elements into long range AP betting?!

jumps all day, its just better!

flat any day .... shame the season is coming to an end..
jumps kill horses

To get value consistently it is flat racing without question,of course there is value in the sticks as well but to find it takes so much longer,plus the downside of more things going wrong.

did u enjoy frankel today giggs?

Thought the race was a bit of a farce,never looked at the sectionals but seems strange that the way the race was run was totally against him yet put them to sleep so easily.The horse is far better than that a turn of foot is not what i think will show him at his best,decent gallop for 4fs and he wins at least double that distance.Visually the wins don't look that great,but to win from no pace like that to me points to the horse being exceptional,you could say queally gave it a good considerate ride i don't agree if he hadn't picked up wouldv'e been another poor ride.Basically i just want to see how quick it can go,for selfish reasons.[:x]

used to be jumps ,but the flat offers a greater challange and the changes of success/against the rewards  are better on the flat.more work,hardeer work ,but sweeter pleaserure,

ibrahima

stop telling everyone how good the 3 day fixture is, the beauty of the thur/fri is not just the standard of racing but how comfortable it is to get about.

I like good quality racing flat and jumps. Can't see how anyone would prefer Kelso or Catterick yesterday to Cheltenham and Ascot. I have had a lot more personal involvement in jumping, having been raised on a farm and attended ptp's from the age of 11 months and owned 6 winning horses all over jumps, but at 67yo, I still feel the same emotion from watching Frankel as I did from Best Mate winning his third Gold Cup.

Jumps, naturally.

althought it goes against the grain, flat by a long way for me. You may get over watering during the flat season but god more than makes up for it during the winter.

jumps in running?.

like my  hard  earned cash  to  go  straight  .   up and  down many  times  over the  jumps makes it slightly  more  difficult  with  fallers  , p/ up   etc  ,  still often my best  success is centred around  the  great  grand  national  ,   normally a  whisper  from  fellow  punters  .remember leaving apoint  to  point  in  borders and  joe  my  friends brother  tipped  me  red ru m two months  before the  race  , he  said small  jimmy  but  jumps  for  fun  at  33/1  downwards   afew  quid ew  got  near  8  k  at  that time, bet it every time he  won national  ,, funilly  piggot  reported  jumping  off  in unsaddling  enclosure at  musselburgh  after riding him over 5 f  ,saying  he  was useless ?this  year  a  call from  isle  of  man  found  me  betting  Ballabriggs    well  supported  in  that  neck  of  the  woods  ,, answer  85%  flat  for  me  .jumps  needs  a jovial  leader  like  a   dettori ..