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By:
DeKaiser
When: 15 Oct 11 20:51
Most jockeys know where the pole is with their eyes closed due to the timing.
By:
tobermory
When: 15 Oct 11 20:52
taking all his prizemoney is outrageous
By:
duncan idaho
When: 15 Oct 11 20:53
Can they not see the winning post either?
By:
tobermory
When: 15 Oct 11 20:55
this one couldn't ,Loughran, still lol at this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by5GvPtwnN8
By:
Gerry Gallbladder
When: 15 Oct 11 20:55
Of course in France (where Soumillon plies his trade), the French racing authorities are much more flexible when it comes to the rule book - just ask Ed Dunlop and the connections of Snow Fairy.
By:
wolfatthedoor
When: 15 Oct 11 20:56
Laugh  classic
By:
rscaughtboy
When: 15 Oct 11 20:58
Thanks (not) for that reminder Tobermory.Cry
By:
DeKaiser
When: 15 Oct 11 20:59
A certain irish jockey knows the post so well he drops his hands when 5 lengths clear in front Blush
By:
zilzal1
When: 15 Oct 11 21:02
Well if they keep this rule youd have to paint the grass across the courseLaugh remember it doesnt matter if you are one yard inside.

However i fully expect a backtrack next weekCool
By:
rscaughtboy
When: 15 Oct 11 21:11
Dont count on a backtrack zilzal,Lester had a call this afternoon from the BHA.They want retrospective punishment and mentioned Roberto was a case being discussed.Sad
By:
Anaglogs Daughter
When: 15 Oct 11 21:15
Just heard he's going to appeal it..fecking sure he is... and it's near 1.01 all bans and fines are rescinded on Monday [:x]
By:
Anaglogs Daughter
When: 15 Oct 11 21:43
Cornelius Lysaght
#Christophe Soumillon is on BBC5Live Sportsweek (8-45 to 9-45 this week) . .
By:
Anaglogs Daughter
When: 15 Oct 11 21:45
The jockeys saying planned strike not off as so much as 'on hold' and could be on again if peace talks on Monday don't have a 'satisfactory' outcome
By:
Kingmambo
When: 15 Oct 11 21:54
Thought Soumillon, who is generally an ar$e, spoke with exceptional sense and articulation today.
By:
Anaglogs Daughter
When: 15 Oct 11 22:01
Any man who goes to work and is fined £50,000 for trying his best is entitled to appeal.
By:
Anaglogs Daughter
When: 15 Oct 11 22:31
Christophe Soumillon
15/October/2011 re;Ascot  ''The marker is small yet for this small mistake I get a big ban''.... cost's him £50k.

C.S 26/August/2009 re: Andre Farbe ''He's so small you can hardly see him."  .. .Cost him about £2 million Cool
By:
sinnerman
When: 15 Oct 11 22:53
this rule is so stupid and unfair.on monday at pontrfract a jockey can hit a horse the same number of times  and his fine will be a few hundred quid and a ban.the fine should be the same for each race not reliant on the prize money.
By:
workrider
When: 15 Oct 11 22:55
a very good point sinnerman .not one the bha will take note of though...
By:
Gerry Gallbladder
When: 15 Oct 11 22:58
You think a few hundred quid means the same to the jockeys likely to be winning at Ascot (Soumillon, Murtagh, Spencer & co) as it does those likely to be winning at Pontefract?
By:
workrider
When: 15 Oct 11 23:01
most of the top jocks in britain will ride at ponte ..i.e. spencer fallon moore so yes ....
By:
Steamship
When: 15 Oct 11 23:02
Soumillon made the point today on RUK saying " Im ok I have money but what about other jockeys who have a family" I think he handled it with dignity, not about the money but it questions his proffessionalism  in a big race.
By:
pedrobob
When: 15 Oct 11 23:03
sectional timing so dodgy today, quite clear  that the furlong markers are in the wrong place.
If Soumillon quick, should go and measure the final furlong and check the stick is 220 yds from winning post and take that to the the Court Of Appeal
By:
workrider
When: 15 Oct 11 23:05
i can see the bha endin up with egg on their faces over this..the animal rights groups must be laughing their socks off .....
By:
Gerry Gallbladder
When: 15 Oct 11 23:12
Nice one - so if you were in charge of the British legal system you would mete out the same punishment for stealing a bar of chocolate as you would for robbing a bank? Oh and the 'punishment' would be minimal too! No flaws in that system at all imo.
By:
Diamond_Joe_Quimby
When: 15 Oct 11 23:15
The most worrying aspect was how unprofessional Roy was in interview with Nick Luck today. Huffing and almost sulking. A pathetic face for British racing.


In a sport which is on its knees over scandals like race fixing involving all sorts of un-savoury characters, if this is the highest part of the BHA agenda to question the professionalism of great jockeys like Christophe Soumillon and Richard Hughes, surely and sadly the sport is at a cross roads
By:
workrider
When: 15 Oct 11 23:21
gerry we all know were you stand re the whip...lets Put it thIs way the bha took £50,000 off a man for tapping a horse once more than he should have according to them...now that is CRIMINAL ..END OF....
By:
Gerry Gallbladder
When: 15 Oct 11 23:22
I agree DJQ. The whip affair has shown all sides up as totally unprofessional and deeply divided. If 'racing' was a business you certainly wouldn't want to buy shares in it.
By:
Gerry Gallbladder
When: 15 Oct 11 23:25
workrider

Even though the rules and penalties for transgressing them had been clearly spelt out? Surely in taking part in today's racing at Ascot, the jockeys (Soumillon included) have accepted the terms and conditions of the BHA's contract?
By:
sinnerman
When: 15 Oct 11 23:28
my point gerry is this,you have to have the same punishment whatever the meeting,if i speed in an old banger or in a ferrari the penalty is not based on the price of the car but on the speed.
By:
Diamond_Joe_Quimby
When: 15 Oct 11 23:32
Does CSs ban apply in France?
By:
Gerry Gallbladder
When: 15 Oct 11 23:32
sinnerman - So you're  saying is that all crimes of speeding should acrue the same penalty? With all due respect, I don't think you have a point!
By:
Gerry Gallbladder
When: 15 Oct 11 23:33
DJQ - yes
By:
Diamond_Joe_Quimby
When: 15 Oct 11 23:34
HTF does that make sense. Being banned for an offence in another country that is totally legal in the country you are serving the ban [smiley:crazy]
By:
Gerry Gallbladder
When: 15 Oct 11 23:38
Those are the risks you should consider beforehand I guess DJQ. In view of today's decision by the Ascot stewards, unless there are some radical changes, it may lead to jockeys from overseas deciding that the risk / reward ratio is simply not favourable enough...
By:
Gerry Gallbladder
When: 15 Oct 11 23:50
My last point on this today is that if there had been a 'no whip' rule in place at Ascot no jockey would have picked up a ban for trying too hard. Imo, none of the results would have been different either. Night all.
By:
Anaglogs Daughter
When: 16 Oct 11 08:50
Chris McGrath: Novices at the BHA make a mockery of landmark day

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Even among those still vexed by the misapprehensions and vanities that must be shed if the sport's new showcase is to achieve its potential best, it is impossible not to feel sympathy for the organisers of the inaugural Qipco Champions Day at Ascot.


Here we have the richest card in the history of the British Turf, decorated by a colt rated by no less a master than Sir Henry Cecil as without precedent in his experience. And yet the sport's regulators have somehow contrived to spread the rankest ordure across its grand new stage.

By some unaccountable, diabolical folly, the British Horseracing Authority decided to make its highly contentious new whip regulations effective from the start of this same week – giving jockeys just five days to adjust to a radical culture shock before riding Frankel and others at Ascot. Within four, one of the most seasoned and artistic horsemen of his generation had been found guilty of two highly marginal offences under the new regime. His cumulative, 15-day suspension rules Richard Hughes out of the ride on Strong Suit in the Breeders' Cup Mile at Churchill Downs next month.

Hughes surrendered his licence on the spot at Kempton on Thursday, and vowed that we will have seen the last of a superb talent unless the BHA revokes its "barbaric" new penalty structure. There are rumours that his peers may make some kind of protest at Ascot today, and they are certainly intending to withdraw their services from all three meetings scheduled on Monday.

So much for the legacy sought at Ascot today by certain big egos at the helm of the sport. Jolly well done, lads, and by the way, Strong Suit runs in the colours of the young sheikh whose Qatari homeland has underwritten today's big card – far and away the most tangible benefit from controversial revisions to the autumn calendar.

Even before the crisis escalated at Kempton, the BHA had seemed to be looking for trouble in expecting jockeys to alter the habits of years so quickly. Now one of the most intelligent and sympathetic of all riders, Hughes, has given a series of articulate and impassioned interviews after his impromptu gesture of disgust. And all the tap-room talk that might have been devoted to Frankel has instead been claimed by a sport at war with itself.

The unsparing new schedule of punishments was clearly devised as a deterrent, but it has quickly become evident that it is not just the jockeys who needed better opportunity to test the water. For Hughes to miss the Breeders' Cup after two such inoffensive rides seems so preposterous that the BHA has succeeded in turning the majority of industry professionals against it more or less overnight. The adjective chosen by most to describe their mood yesterday was "embarrassed".

Ascot today should have been an occasion for almost unqualified celebration. It is hard to imagine a more auspicious benediction: a horse for the ages, gilded by autumn sunshine on a day that might equally have been blighted by bad weather and worse going. Even those vexed by the fatuous insistence that everyone in the industry has an obligation to "get behind" the ludicrous Champions Series had been thrilled by the depth of the fields today. As things have turned out, we have been given far more alarming grounds for suspecting some fatal disconnection between the grass roots of the Turf and its notional leaders.

It is hardly surprising that these men think they can reach a new audience, whether through new whip rules or a new calendar, when so many among them are novices themselves – some of them interlopers whose self-regard has been lovingly nurtured in very different environments.

So far as the new autumn programme is concerned, today's card demonstrates the goodwill out there, or at least as to the response guaranteed by such enormous purses. For now, however, it remains predicated on a perilous misunderstanding. Anyone with a proper grasp of the international racing and bloodstock industries will recognise that a new climax to the domestic season should not compete with the Arc and Breeders' Cup, but complement them. While a slot in September would bring its own headaches, it would leave scope for those champions that have established local supremacy to meet fresh challenges thereafter. Instead they are being urged to reiterate their stature against familiar opposition.

It seems that every time the sport's leaders claim to see the bigger picture, they end up betraying a lack of perspective instead. And you may be certain that Little Englanders will never make the most of a great racing nation
By:
AlainCharnier..Macau.
When: 16 Oct 11 09:35
"vanities" an excellent choice of word.


Those that run racing actually believe taht the rest of the country give a t0ss about the sportLaughLaugh
By:
alun2005
When: 16 Oct 11 10:00
The British media aren't far behind the BHA either in terms of their delusional outlook.
By:
askari1
When: 16 Oct 11 10:25
I would rather have the sport run by the journalists from the broadsheets than by the BHA--blazered twits usually w/ a vested interest as owners and no sense of the betting and racegoing public as a stakeholder in the game.

The sport has one overwhelming problem, and it's not the horses, jockeys, trainers, races and tracks. It's how the game is marketed and run--the governance.
By:
Oasisdreamer
When: 16 Oct 11 10:41
Askari1 - your 2nd paragraph is 100% spot on.
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