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Soumillon angered by whip ban
Christophe Soumillon was left seething after being handed a five-day ban for breaching the new whip regulations during his winning ride on Cirrus Des Aigles in the Qipco Champion Stakes at Ascot.
The new rules, which came into effect on Monday, state a rider can only use his whip seven times in a Flat race, with only five of those 'hits' allowed inside the final furlong.
Belgian-born, French-based Soumillon was ruled to have used his whip six times in the last furlong, and as well as his ban he also forfeited his riding fee and percentage of prize-money, amounting to around £50,000.
Soumillon said: "I'm very embarrassed for English racing today. You have a lot of problems, but the whip is not one of them.
"Jockeys are not here to whip horses, they are here to make the horses do their best and that is what I tried to do. We now have padded whips, they are very soft and I hit my horse to make him do his best in the last furlong.
"Maybe I should have hit him before the final marker, but the rules have only been in one week. I just gave six, I didn't give eight, nine or 10. For a little mistake they give me a five-day suspension and I'm fighting for the title in France, so it is important for my career, and they take away all my prize money, around £50,000."
He went on: "Never can a fine like this have been handed out in sport. I never saw Zinedine Zidane get a fine like this, or Michael Schumacher in Formula One. I cannot understand why they change it one week before Champions Day.
"I was just beside So You Think, who everybody knows is a very tall horse. How can I see the furlong marker? There are (blue and white) publicity banners everywhere on the track, how can I see the marker? The marker is small yet for this small mistake I get a big ban.
"I don't understand and I think the English jockeys have to get together to sort it out because it is impossible to work this way. I was very afraid to get a suspension. You can't change the rule in one week.
"We are civilised people. This is 2011, not 1800, you can't kill people like they used to. The rules can change, but not like that. The rules should all be the same, you can't cut people's heads and legs off. The rules should be the same everywhere in the world. I will take a good lawyer and see what I can do."
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Soumillon angered by whip ban
Christophe Soumillon was left seething after being handed a five-day ban for breaching the new whip regulations during his winning ride on Cirrus Des Aigles in the Qipco Champion Stakes at Ascot.
The new rules, which came into effect on Monday, state a rider can only use his whip seven times in a Flat race, with only five of those 'hits' allowed inside the final furlong.
Belgian-born, French-based Soumillon was ruled to have used his whip six times in the last furlong, and as well as his ban he also forfeited his riding fee and percentage of prize-money, amounting to around £50,000.
Soumillon said: "I'm very embarrassed for English racing today. You have a lot of problems, but the whip is not one of them.
"Jockeys are not here to whip horses, they are here to make the horses do their best and that is what I tried to do. We now have padded whips, they are very soft and I hit my horse to make him do his best in the last furlong.
"Maybe I should have hit him before the final marker, but the rules have only been in one week. I just gave six, I didn't give eight, nine or 10. For a little mistake they give me a five-day suspension and I'm fighting for the title in France, so it is important for my career, and they take away all my prize money, around £50,000."
He went on: "Never can a fine like this have been handed out in sport. I never saw Zinedine Zidane get a fine like this, or Michael Schumacher in Formula One. I cannot understand why they change it one week before Champions Day.
"I was just beside So You Think, who everybody knows is a very tall horse. How can I see the furlong marker? There are (blue and white) publicity banners everywhere on the track, how can I see the marker? The marker is small yet for this small mistake I get a big ban.
"I don't understand and I think the English jockeys have to get together to sort it out because it is impossible to work this way. I was very afraid to get a suspension. You can't change the rule in one week.
"We are civilised people. This is 2011, not 1800, you can't kill people like they used to. The rules can change, but not like that. The rules should all be the same, you can't cut people's heads and legs off. The rules should be the same everywhere in the world. I will take a good lawyer and see what I can do."
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Yep, seething.
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why is this only a problem in england BHA out to distroy english racing for all time
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why is this only a problem in england BHA out to distroy english racing for all time
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All i can say is...Don't expect too many oversea jockeys at Royal Ascot. 15 day ban for 1 ride.
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Look on the bright side though..
They might have to cancel the Shergar cup  |
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someone needs to charge the bha with bringing the game into disrepute...because that is exactly what they have done..their authority needs to be challenged or an alternative quickly sought...the impact on NH will be significant and a lot of races ruined by this nonsense.
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Simple solution : refund all money to Soumillion , Hughes , Gemelova etc etc , announce on Monday that the rules will be amended as follows :
7 strikes total for flat races to be used at the jockeys discretion 9 strikes for NH races at jockeys discretion corrective use to stop horses wandering etc NOT to count in total usage Job done. |
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Its that simple BOB, its taken them 10 months to make a **** up such as this though
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that paul roy the **** should b knee capped the bha looked like fools when they tryied to catch inocent fallon and ruined his carrer for a year and a half know there tryin to ruin the rest of the jockies
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that paul roy the **** should b knee capped the bha looked like fools when they tryied to catch inocent fallon and ruined his carrer for a year and a half know there tryin to ruin the rest of the jockies
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wd Bob, that will do it. Do you think the BHA have anyone with any common sense like you?
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job done if your happy about horses been hit 7 times in a furlong,although we no jockeys wil hit them 8, because thats why the rules were modified because jockeys wernt compiling with the old rules,it seems that people think rides like spencers on cape blanco are acceptable
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Sounds like a piece penned by a Betfair Forumite,The Seething part was the giveaway imo
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manyana ...exactly what should be done....they have a lot to answer for imo....
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I wonder what Mark Johnston thinks about all this,,,he's a BHA director,Vet and trainer??
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Do you think that now would be a good time to point out to Soumillon that it's British Racing - not English?
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Workrider,do you reckon their stupid enough to follow suit here in ireland?
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You know what they say "a camel is a horse designed" by committee. Never truer than the current situation. The whole lot of them need to be cleared out.
In addition, thinking about it this afternoon, Darley needs to go. Somewhere along the line the jockeys have been disenfranchised. Darley and/or his people either agreed to something he wasn't empowered to agree or more likely, he said nothing when he should have made the strongest of protests. Perhaps, the salary comes too easily. |
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Gerry has the Andy Murray Syndrome
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Think the clue is in the initials OnTheSnaff; BHA = British Horseracing Authority.
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Onthesnaff......It will not happen in Ireland........they tried last year to wreck the greyhound industry and hunting.........it will never happen in a country like Ireland thats why we are the world leaders in producing race horses and greyhounds(ozzies think different)........it's more than a leisure sport in Ireland it's an industry.
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fkk me, how stupid are you guys? you tax on profit..really?? REALLY?? you must get 2 dollars a year from the bookies/punters, Should tell the jockey that might make him understand why he got banned 50k for whipping his horse one extra time
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no onthesnaff ..the racecourses would be empty after a week ...common sense is missing from british racing ...they've got to be seen pleasing the animal rights groups....they let themselves be bought to this , by not putting their foot down as soon as the animal groups started kicking up a fuse ....no one likes seen beaten horses been smacked ..but this has gone beyond anything ever witnessed before or since...the people who now have the biggest imput into racing i.e. animal rights groups ,know nothing about racing....
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TAXI for the leader and QIPCO need to pull their dosh. Who wants to be associated with that sh*t. You simply could not make it up could you.
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why do mug punters think you need to no something about racing to discuss the whip,if crufts were on bbc 2 and the owners were whacking their dogs with sticks ,what do you think would happen
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To be honest poster I think it is a little important to know your subject. Trust you have sat on a horsie?
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Qipco need to pull the plug and go elsewhere,The Aga Khan very shrewd in staying out of Britain with his horses,more rich owners need to follow suit
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Is a big big difference between a doggie (unless you are sat on its back) and a horsie.
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for the anti whip brigade.....have a look at the finish of the last race at wolves.....the jockey had to give the winner a couple o smacks down the neck just to stop it running off the track ...AFTER THE RACE....
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Ist time That is libel.Either retract or I will report you
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There certainly should be more threats by those who know about horses, whip debate, crap prize money, no 2012 fixture list, too many meetings, a sport dictated to by bookmakers. How much more of a kicking are those in charge going to give this sport?
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Just got back from a great day @Ascot. and this has really taken the shine off it for me. Feel gutted for Christophe. How can a pompous steward deny a man his wages for a days work. There must be a labour law which this breaks. That's the trouble with the BHA, run by the old school tie brigade who still think the jockeys are pieces of sh1t.
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The grand national has plenty to answer for
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i totally agree with bobsievier nice and simple slaps down the neck to help horses concentrate should not count and all jockeys who have had riding fees and prizemoney taken away be fully reimbursed the bha are complete idiots and the laughing stock of world racing
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i totally agree with bobsievier nice and simple slaps down the neck to help horses concentrate should not count and all jockeys who have had riding fees and prizemoney taken away be fully reimbursed the bha are complete idiots and the laughing stock of world racing
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That 50k straight back into the bookies pocket...err industry
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I notice on these whip threads a larger than usuual number of inadvertently duplicated posts
A sure sign that emotions are running very high on this issue |
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Adrian Nicholls
Games gone 55k done the pisser c s must be pised I would jump off the air France flight Nicky Macka A great days racing overshadowed by another whip case. #sortitoutbha |