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ashleigh
12 Oct 11 15:36
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Report IrishRover • October 12, 2011 3:37 PM BST
yep stewards enquiry may be voided
Report Deltâ • October 12, 2011 3:37 PM BST
ban + fine em all for continuing after yellow flag
Report councillor • October 12, 2011 3:37 PM BST
What a shambles. The rider of Kings Counsel was not sure and kept looking at others and lost the race through that anyway. Will void the race IMO
Report pumphol. • October 12, 2011 3:38 PM BST
I backed it yesterday at 14/1 Cry
Report ashleigh • October 12, 2011 3:38 PM BST
on glorybe hope so.
Report amelia1253 • October 12, 2011 3:38 PM BST
hope not backed the fav
Report Greg_Gory • October 12, 2011 3:38 PM BST
glorybe deemed a runner,so race must of taken place Silly
Report blackpood • October 12, 2011 3:39 PM BST
was well green here, but down on the day so far, so hopr race stands
Report zebadei • October 12, 2011 3:40 PM BST
Should if you follow the rules be a void race and a ban for all those who ignored the yellow flag.
Report kw • October 12, 2011 3:41 PM BST
what was the guy with the whip doing cracking it diectly in front of Glorybe in the 1st place. No wonder it didn't start. Joke
Report pablo gonzales • October 12, 2011 3:41 PM BST
if  its  voided  then there  was  only  one  runner  ...glory  be  as that  is  the  only  horse  officially  declared  a  runner .if  a race  has  been  voided  then  surely  all  the  horses  havent  run as  it  isnt  a  race ???  this  is  marvelous
Report wee eck • October 12, 2011 3:42 PM BST
If the stewards or starter ordered the yellow flag race must be voided
Report anth699 • October 12, 2011 3:42 PM BST
has to be a void race,otherwise why make rules and jockeys should be fined,could have been carnage.
Report dunlaying • October 12, 2011 3:43 PM BST
SNAFU
Report DFCIRONMAN • October 12, 2011 3:43 PM BST
If WHISTLE not used with YELLOW FLAG ...then surely it is not the STOP race sign?
Report anth699 • October 12, 2011 3:43 PM BST
pablo?  if the race is void all stakes refunded
Report Handy Andy • October 12, 2011 3:44 PM BST
Guy waving the yellow flag thought he was at Silverstone!
Report wee eck • October 12, 2011 3:45 PM BST
watchit, so is it half a race?Laugh[;)]
Report pablo gonzales • October 12, 2011 3:46 PM BST
yes  i  know  anth.  i  was  being  facetious  .
Report anth699 • October 12, 2011 3:46 PM BST
yellow flag stop race,whistle to gain attention
Report Greg_Gory • October 12, 2011 3:47 PM BST
flagman gone to work with only half his tools Laugh
Report wee eck • October 12, 2011 3:47 PM BST
watchit I had a bet on the 2nd in running, no race suits me.
Report zebadei • October 12, 2011 3:48 PM BST
If they dont void for a clearly waived yellow flag,then they set the precedent for any future yellow flag to be ignored.

Sadly its going to cost me.
Report zipper • October 12, 2011 3:48 PM BST
The yellow flag man does has he is told  by the stewards  .. whats the problem the race is void  remember the Grand National
Report Here come the steamer • October 12, 2011 3:51 PM BST
y was there a yellow flag anyway
Report Greg_Gory • October 12, 2011 3:54 PM BST
VOIDED
Report ashleigh • October 12, 2011 3:55 PM BST
race voided.
Report ashleigh • October 12, 2011 3:55 PM BST
race voided.
Report Handy Andy • October 12, 2011 3:56 PM BST
noooooooo
Report amelia1253 • October 12, 2011 3:58 PM BST
****g c  u   n   t
Report ashleigh • October 12, 2011 3:59 PM BST
cry bet paying out on winner, more will follow.
Report wee eck • October 12, 2011 4:00 PM BST
watchit saved me a right few quid I can tell you, happy days.[;)]
Report pablo gonzales • October 12, 2011 4:00 PM BST
what  is  even  more  hilarious  is  that  betfair must  be more  confused  than  anyone  because they  still  havent  settles  the  race  10  minutes  after  it  was  officially  voided !!  well  done  betfair...surely  its  not  that  hard ??
Report johnbunnell • October 12, 2011 4:01 PM BST
i've been refunded expected losses on claret

so lucky
Report MrHunt • October 12, 2011 4:01 PM BST
av noo
Report macca007 • October 12, 2011 4:02 PM BST
FFS £50 EACH WAY AT 9 TO 1 .............................SUMS IT UP
Report anth699 • October 12, 2011 4:09 PM BST
only possible outcome!
Report anth699 • October 12, 2011 4:14 PM BST
and jockeys will be suspended!
Report wee eck • October 12, 2011 4:16 PM BST
When you think of it did the jockeys think the yellow flag was being waved by someone

from the local mental hospital, they took no notice at all.
Report zebadei • October 12, 2011 4:18 PM BST
tbh it did occur to me it was one of the on track in running players!
Report wee eck • October 12, 2011 4:20 PM BST
[;)]
Report Arleystation • October 12, 2011 4:21 PM BST
Who made the decision to stop the race in the first place? Invariably there are stricken horses far nearer to fences or hurdles, and they simply doll off the obstacle and wave a chequered flag. This poor horse was barely on the "running track" and was well clear of the hurdle.

It's all so amateurish.
Report roggrain • October 12, 2011 4:34 PM BST
Ah,yes Arleyatation, you've hit the nail on the head. The sport is run by bumbling baffoons
Why not have a siren to announce the stopping of a race instead of asking some nutter to stand in front of galloping
horses waving a flag?
Report sandysboy • October 12, 2011 7:21 PM BST
The rumour going around the track was YES he waved a flag to stop the race but he waved the wrong one [should have been the chequered one]. The official announcement said jocks suspended BUT areport would be sent to the jockey club regarding the waving of the yellow flag
Report Arleystation • October 12, 2011 7:30 PM BST
From Sporting Life website (My emphasis in bold):


A sign in the weighing room, explaining the yellow flag procedure, reads: "If at any stage during a race you see an official waving a yellow flag, this is the sign to immediately pull up."

The stewards also held a further enquiry into why the stop-race flag had been deployed, but forwarded their evidence on to the British Horseracing Authority.

Wetherby racecourse chief executive Jonjo Sanderson said: "Fiona (Needham, clerk of the course) was trying to contact Ian Ward, our head groundsman, on the walkie-talkie.

"Unfortunately, for some reason Ian could not hear her.


"Ian was concerned that the runners would not be able to get past the stricken horse and he made a judgment call.

"In his roll as head groundsman he is well within his rights to make such a call.

"He was in the correct place and was waving his yellow flag and blowing a whistle.

"It is in his remit to make such a decision. He has held his current position for at least four years.

"Ian has not made a mistake, it was a judgment call."

Cook, who secured a double on the card aboard King Zeal and Amtired, said: "I'm very annoyed and very frustrated.

"There were flags all over the place and no-one knew what they were doing.

"I saw a yellow flag but then a bit further on I saw a hazard flag so we carried on as the hurdle was not dolled out.

"I only caught a glimpse of the yellow flag.

"He (Ward) should have been further out so we could all see what was happening clearly."

McCoy and the other guilty jockeys refused to comment.
Report sageform • October 12, 2011 7:52 PM BST
I have some sympathy with the riders but not much.
Look at it from the stewards point of view.
1. The injured horse was blocking the space round the side of the hurdle so that option was not available.
2. Any fallers at the flight could have careered into the people tending the horse.
Therefore stopping the race was a logical call. Can you imagine the fuss if a Formula 1 driver ignored warning flags? They are travelling at 120 mph or more not 30 so if they can spot flags so should jockeys.
Report Steamship • October 12, 2011 8:00 PM BST
Why not doll off that fence? Why didn't yellow flag man stand more in the middle of the course? They did not deserve 10 days for that
Report ribero1 • October 12, 2011 8:10 PM BST
surely they will appeal? the groundsman decides to stop the race,you couldn't make it up,he may be the best grower of grass in the country (although as it's wetherby i doubt it) but who's to say he knows the first thing about horse racing? it's clear there was no need to stop the race but the jocks get 10 days,unbelevable imo and it saved me a few quid as well.
Report ashleigh • October 13, 2011 8:58 AM BST
you could bet any farce in racng that fiona needham would be involved.
Report wee eck • October 13, 2011 9:07 AM BST
seamship, re your point about flagman, possibly he did not want an early death.[;)]

Ribero the flag must have been officially sanctioned surely?
Report ribero1 • October 13, 2011 9:59 AM BST
i guess so wee eck but they do admit they were trying to contact him before he raised it.
Report wee eck • October 13, 2011 10:06 AM BST
ribero, He has permission to make the call he has supposedly the right amount of experience,

however you look at it the jockeys especially the experienced ones were at fault for carrying on.
Report Arleystation • October 13, 2011 10:35 AM BST
In partial defence of the jocks there was also a guy waving a chequered flag only a further 100 yards down the course than the yellow flag waver.

Maybe they need more than one yellow flag[;)].
Report adge • October 13, 2011 10:39 AM BST
do jockeys actually know what a yellow flag means.
to me clearly [ before yesterday ] they don't
Report CharlieCroker69 • October 13, 2011 1:25 PM BST
people who mow the grass should not be able to void races where 100s of thousands are being traded.
Report sageform • October 13, 2011 2:05 PM BST
That is not correct. Officials are placed at several points round the course who have the authority to wave a yellow flag if they think it is dangerous for the race to carry on. Under the circumstances, the guy made a good call but because of the position that the incident took place, I can understand the riders being unprepared as they came off the bend. Better guidance could be given to officials but as the stricken horse and more importantly the people behind the green screen were blocking the path round the obstacle and also part of the obstacle, I can see why the call was made. If the riders had been unable to avoid jumping the flight but had then pulled up, they would have a case but they carried on regardless. The fact that no accident happened is not the point. People do dangerous things on the roads every day without causing accidents but that doesn't mean we should abolish the laws.
Report wee eck • October 13, 2011 2:19 PM BST
sageform, spot on, the position in a nutshell.
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