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Report Vubiant • October 11, 2011 2:05 PM BST
Im on soft --sprints the first 5f ...WRF ? Laugh
Report onlooker • October 11, 2011 2:05 PM BST
Being sent to the States - for Quarter Horse races, over the Winter.
Report Tallywagger. • October 11, 2011 2:05 PM BST
Never get pulled in when they go off like that. Probably the best way to get one beaten.
Report pedrobob • October 11, 2011 2:05 PM BST
think his mates have laid that one IR big style
Report rab67 • October 11, 2011 2:06 PM BST
Good judge of pace
Report Vubiant • October 11, 2011 2:07 PM BST
Clock in his head ---but is it grandfather or cuckoo ?Laugh
Report asparagus • October 11, 2011 2:07 PM BST
Either one of the worst rides of the season or tallywagger has hit the nail on the head. Either way questions should be asked.
Report Mordin. • October 11, 2011 2:07 PM BST
That looked suspicious, thought Fallon was too good a jockey to ride such a misjudged race, with the new whip rules the perfect excuse
Report Fat Dodgy • October 11, 2011 2:09 PM BST
I wish I waited to lay it...1.19 IR ffs
Report Feck N. Eejit • October 11, 2011 2:09 PM BST
Was it a bad ride? I have to confess I was thinking "jockey's race" after the rest let him go clear because he looked as though he was just letting the horse bowl along.
Report howard • October 11, 2011 2:10 PM BST
We are all talking aftertime though. What were people doing backing at less than 1/5 and 1/20 a place if its obvious its gone too fast ?
Report Vubiant • October 11, 2011 2:10 PM BST
Horse never made the running b4.
Report howard • October 11, 2011 2:11 PM BST
Agree Feck , especially seeing most of the dangers were first timers and might not be punished
Report asparagus • October 11, 2011 2:11 PM BST
I'm not aftertiming - laid a bit of 1/5 and 1/3. Had backed pre race but thought going too quick especially with the headwind
Report taipan501 • October 11, 2011 2:12 PM BST
its what he tried to do on ballinger ridge!!
Report Trusty • October 11, 2011 2:12 PM BST
yes easy to talk afterwards and obviously plenty thought it was going to pi55 it ...... but heavily laid from 1.4 down suggest that some had other ideas.

one thing is for sure, we will never know.
Report asparagus • October 11, 2011 2:14 PM BST
agree with taipan.
Report Hayden • October 11, 2011 2:15 PM BST
Wouldn't have been his decision to trail blaze like that he'd be riding to instructions anyway
Report pedrobob • October 11, 2011 2:18 PM BST
so Luca said "lead and go a millions miles an hour in soft ground and a headwind"?

Maybe he did if wanted to lay it
Report asparagus • October 11, 2011 2:19 PM BST
Hayden, highly unlikely that's true with a cumani runner. very rare his horses make the running and almost never go bombing off in front. fallon will just tell cumani the horse got away from him.
Report dogdog • October 11, 2011 2:20 PM BST
thats how to get a horse handiccapped
Report 4thjulykid • October 11, 2011 2:22 PM BST
Fallon doesnt get instructions from Cumani, so Cumani has said several times. For a jockey so experienced, it was a very poor ride. He would have got a feel of the ground and the horses ability to handle it on the way down . He made no serious attempt to restrain the horse, in front or trying to get it covered up. As someone else has said there are  more ways to get beat than getting boxed in.
Report howard • October 11, 2011 2:23 PM BST
pedro he clearly went too fast but not crazy fast hence the short price backs. I think  hes a pretty moderate horse with a perfect ride
Report Hayden • October 11, 2011 2:23 PM BST
We'll probably always be guessing so may as well move on   Happy
Report knavesmire • October 11, 2011 2:28 PM BST
well said Hayden....fallon knockin on here is sooo boring
Report 4thjulykid • October 11, 2011 2:28 PM BST
Although ten seconds outside RP average, that was to be expected on the ground. Even so, Fallon went quicker than is normal for a slow ground mile race. He went about six furlong slow ground speed ( for six furlongs! )
Report howard • October 11, 2011 2:31 PM BST
yeah people that dont like him use his great talent to make out he couldnt make mistakes
Report Brother Mouzone • October 11, 2011 2:33 PM BST
Nowon better from the front, horse must of gone lame imo.
Report chingachgook • October 11, 2011 2:33 PM BST
just rode a cracker Laugh
Report Hayden • October 11, 2011 2:34 PM BST
A jockey is only as good or bad as their last ride on a gambling forum   Happy
Report thedikler • October 11, 2011 2:34 PM BST
He came from behind on that gee gee ok Laugh
Report DeSSieReborn • October 11, 2011 2:34 PM BST
Fallon masterclass 2.30......
Report knavesmire • October 11, 2011 2:36 PM BST
didnt use whip once
Report Poppydog. • October 11, 2011 2:36 PM BST
Checking the replay
Fallon the only jockey in the race not to use his whip!
Report 4thjulykid • October 11, 2011 2:36 PM BST
My point exactly. "knows Newcastle like the back of his hand ", makes that first ride even more inexcusable.
Report howard • October 11, 2011 2:37 PM BST
Laugh
Report knavesmire • October 11, 2011 2:38 PM BST
so the first race is fallons fault,not the horse,trainer instruction,owner instruction....glad we got that sorted
Report howard • October 11, 2011 2:39 PM BST
July , isnt he allowed a badly judged ride now and then ? Plenty of other jocks do this now and again.
Report Hayden • October 11, 2011 2:44 PM BST
Any gambler financially involved in the sport that expects a jockey to ride to the best of their ability in every race , a trainer to produce horses to run to 100% ability on every run or indeed a horse to run to produce their best on every outing needs to find another less expensive hobby , otherwise life will always be full of disappointments.


Good luck today all   Happy
Report DeSSieReborn • October 11, 2011 2:46 PM BST
Very sound statement Hayden, GL 2 U2
Report dan hardcore • October 11, 2011 2:46 PM BST
Feck it was a shocking ride ffS!!!

CAn see why he wanted to go on though aftre the way the horse ran through the line on his last 2 starts. Just completely cocked it up in very bad ground IMO.
Report DeSSieReborn • October 11, 2011 2:47 PM BST
It was the first race, and no one had any idea how bad the ground was and how it would affect their horse.
Report howard • October 11, 2011 2:48 PM BST
True Dan. Anyway Fallon backers didnt have to wait long for money back with interest Happy
Report 4thjulykid • October 11, 2011 2:55 PM BST
It was the first race, and no one had any idea how bad would affect their horse.the ground was and how it


Do think Fallon got a taxi to the start? FFS
Report DeSSieReborn • October 11, 2011 3:01 PM BST
Oh dear a simple canter down to start is going to tell a jockey how quickly the tank will empty at full throttle?
Report 4thjulykid • October 11, 2011 3:06 PM BST
It would give him the clue the ground is very testing yes. It would also give him the clue that a two year old would need every bit of help to get home . In reality, he gave the horse no chance of getting home, he wasnt karted, he just made no effort to conserve some energy.
Report DeSSieReborn • October 11, 2011 3:20 PM BST
There have been plenty of races in heavy ground where the pack find it extremely hard to pick up the leader. Just wasn't one of those races. Horses are not machines.
Report Feck N. Eejit • October 11, 2011 3:24 PM BST
You "terrible ride" punters, please post your ir bets.
Report howard • October 11, 2011 3:26 PM BST
Good points Dessie. The horse is a free going type that would probably have resented being restrained so you gamble on pinching it from the front if the others go too slow. Sometimes you can go too quick and still hang on having got first run.
Report ima_mazed66 • October 11, 2011 5:31 PM BST
Any other jockey and it's not even an issue. Happy
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